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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
I think the point is less about truth and more about social values and order. Arguably the latter two are more important to people.

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The researchers also determined that “religious teaching, especially exposure to miracle stories, leads children to a more generic receptivity toward the impossible, that is, a more wide-ranging acceptance that the impossible can happen in defiance of ordinary causal relations.”

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

This is a good thing. How does one preform a miracle if they don't believe it possible?

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/18/researchers-children-exposed-to-religion-have-difficulty-distinguishing-fact-from-fiction/

I found this article about how children exposed to religious indoctrination don't possess the same skepticism as non religious children and as such have more trouble determining reality from fantasy.

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ORIGINAL: kinksterparty

People exposed to any kind of indoctrination - religious, political, or social - are generally less able to distinguish facts from opinions.

However, the cause and effect sequence is debatable.

Are they unable to distinguish because they've been indoctrinated - or were they able to be indoctrinated because they didn't have the capacity to differentiate from the start?

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ORIGINAL: Kirata


From your link...

religious teaching, especially exposure to miracle stories, leads children to a more generic receptivity toward the impossible, that is, a more wide-ranging acceptance that the impossible can happen in defiance of ordinary causal relations

This study appears to confirm that children exposed to religious teachings are less likely to regard the Materialist assumption with the same degree of fervor that compels its faithful to enshrine it as a "fact," proclaim it the final arbiter of what is "real" and "possible," and dismiss all other views as delusional.

Oh, horrors.

K.

or those kids will believe any old bollocks peddled to them and not care if it has any basis in reality or science, those kids are really going to move things forward aren't they?

So, yeah, I can see a bit of horror in that

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Ridiculous. The study basically states that children who are raised religiously and presumably have parents who taught them that religion (presumably Christianity) is true, were most likely to believe that the Bible is true. Duh.

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

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The researchers also determined that “religious teaching, especially exposure to miracle stories, leads children to a more generic receptivity toward the impossible, that is, a more wide-ranging acceptance that the impossible can happen in defiance of ordinary causal relations.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/18/researchers-children-exposed-to-religion-have-difficulty-distinguishing-fact-from-fiction/


This is a good thing. How does one preform a miracle if they don't believe it possible?

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Ridiculous. The study basically states that children who are raised religiously and presumably have parents who taught them that religion (presumably Christianity) is true, were most likely to believe that the Bible is true. Duh.

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ORIGINAL: egern

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Ridiculous. The study basically states that children who are raised religiously and presumably have parents who taught them that religion (presumably Christianity) is true, were most likely to believe that the Bible is true. Duh.

Not so 'duh'. They also think fairies are true.

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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Ridiculous. The study basically states that children who are raised religiously and presumably have parents who taught them that religion (presumably Christianity) is true, were most likely to believe that the Bible is true. Duh.

Exactly, which is why Christians call themselves believers. (These teachings could extend to Judaism, since this article doesn't specify which religions.)

"...whereas children raised in a religious environment even 'approach unfamiliar, fantastical stories flexibly'.”

^^How is this a bad thing?^^ Further:

"The researchers also determined that 'religious teaching, especially exposure to miracle stories, leads children to a more generic receptivity toward the impossible, that is, a more wide-ranging acceptance that the impossible can happen in defiance of ordinary causal relations'.” *

Without possessing the ability to make paradigm shifts in their thinking perspectives, Newton and Einstein, da Vinci, Pasteur or Marie Curie (to name a few), could hardly have become the geniuses that they were.

ETA: * As noted in Kirata's post above

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This is a good thing. How does one preform a miracle if they don't believe it possible?

More importantly, how do they cope when the universe starts throwing curves, and crapping on lives they care about? How will they ever appreciate a moment of instant karma that plays out before them?

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/18/researchers-children-exposed-to-religion-have-difficulty-distinguishing-fact-from-fiction/

I found this article about how children exposed to religious indoctrination don't possess the same skepticism as non religious children and as such have more trouble determining reality from fantasy.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

When I was young, it seemed that life was so wonderful,
a miracle, oh it was beautiful, magical.
And all the birds in the trees, well they'd be singing so happily,
oh joyfully, oh playfully watching me.
But then they sent me away to teach me how to be sensible,
logical, oh responsible, practical.
And then they showed me a world where I could be so dependable,
oh clinical, oh intellectual, cynical...

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Not hardly. Einstein and the rest but specifically Einstein did understand very fundamentally the causal relationship. It is at the very heart of special relativity. And none of those scientists discovered anything that is impossible in regards to ordinary causality.

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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Not hardly. Einstein and the rest but specifically Einstein did understand very fundamentally the causal relationship. It is at the very heart of special relativity. And none of those scientists discovered anything that is impossible in regards to ordinary causality.

Geniuses and especially gifted individuals think outside of the box.

Without the aid of the modern computer, Isaac Newton manually calculated algorithms and deciphered intricate mathematical puzzles pertaining to Hebrew Bible Codes.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Not hardly. Einstein and the rest but specifically Einstein did understand very fundamentally the causal relationship. It is at the very heart of special relativity. And none of those scientists discovered anything that is impossible in regards to ordinary causality.

Geniuses and especially gifted individuals think outside of the box.

Without the aid of the modern computer, Isaac Newton manually calculated algorithms and deciphered intricate mathematical puzzles pertaining to Hebrew Bible Codes.

You mean Newton wasted years on nonsense, there are no codes in the bible. And there is nothing special about calculating algorithms. Anyone can do it. What Newton did that was special was invent calculus and codify the classical laws of motion.

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ORIGINAL: Zonie63

I actually believe that it's far easier to relate to the universe as a random occurrence without any creator. It allows one to have more peace with one's existence.

If one believes that all this crapping on lives was actually intentionally caused by a supposedly intelligent and sentient being - who micromanages and fucks with people's lives because he loves them and has a plan for them - then that would likely be far more difficult to cope with.

That said, I don't know that I entirely agree with the idea that children exposed to religion have difficulty separating fact from fiction. There may be something to it, but worse than that, my observation is that they generally become blind followers and far too obedient and compliant - even in the face of the most contemptible tyranny ever imagined.