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thishereboi -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/12/2014 6:16:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


we do have the right to carry sheep.


Interesting, please continue, your logic is faultless as always



Awww, isn't that cute. Pixie learned how to edit a quote to make it look like the poster said something else. Wanna cookie?




thishereboi -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/12/2014 6:18:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten


I think for myself and question when something doesnt sit right with me.


I think the gun is thinking for you



Well that could be the problem right there. You think guns are capable of thinking and they are not. Maybe you should switch off the cartoons and join the rest of the adults in the real world.




thompsonx -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/12/2014 7:43:21 AM)


ORIGINAL: subrosaDom


I claim to be a lawyer! Really? Where? Not only am I not a lawyer, I have never claimed to be a lawyer.

Perhaps you think you play one on tv.




thompsonx -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/12/2014 7:44:54 AM)


ORIGINAL: subrosaDom

You really love this 5th grade analogy. Someday you will compare my or someone else's accumulated wisdom to that of a 6th grader (or equivalent textbook) and that will be one mighty concession from you. I can't wait.


Perhaps you might also hold your breath while waiting.




thompsonx -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/12/2014 7:46:55 AM)


ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten

So why are you debating me on something beyond frivolous,

No one is debating you. We are pointing out your ignorance/lying.


other then the fact nearly every thread I post on you DK and Tommyboy show up on to "correct" me...

Then stop saying things that need correcting dumb ass/








NorthernGent -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/12/2014 11:23:20 AM)


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Look, I'm no genius with maths and probabilities but I'm fairly confident in the assertion that it's hardly surprising considering more Americans own guns than people of other 'first world countries'.

I'm living proof that you can enter and exit the US without getting shot, or even seeing a gun, although I did take a wrong turn in New Orleans at 4 in the morning and it was like the land that time forgot. You wouldn't wanna get caught out down there at that time of night.


Whoa, dude! I didn't know you were back. It's good to see you again!

Please tell more people about your gun free experiences in America. While we may have higher violence rates than the rest of the (so called) civilized world (which can mostly be ascribed to orneriness as a national trait) it still kind of irks me that many non-Americans seem to think that we spend our time ducking our heads and returning fire as we go about our daily business. I'm 48 years old and I have NEVER been threatened by a gun and have never even seen one fired in anger. I think a lot of people would be surprised at just how peaceful our lives are over here.

The most violent thing that ever did happen to me was when a would be mugger pulled a knife on me but he was drunk and stupid and I was already in a pissy mood so all he got out of it was a couple of broken fingers (I, on the other hand, scored a new knife [:)]).


Hello Marc, and you.

From what I can gather you may have higher murder rates than Britain but not higher burglary rates.

We went to Nashville, Memphis and New Orleans and had a drive through Alabama and Mississippi.

Absolutely no problems at all. Americans turned out to be very good hosts. I think you have to be fair about these things and just like any other country not everything is to any man's liking but the good far outweighed the bad and we came back with many good memories and will be going back again one day.

Lots to say about it but probably not the right thread for it. One quick thing is that I was led to believe that Americans serve up big plates of food. I was rubbing my hands ready, waiting and eager - what a let down in terms of portion size. What more than made up for it was jambalaya - I could have eaten that stuff for breakfast, lunch, dinner and supper for a couple of months without a break!

Didn't see any crime. Although a friend broke her wrist in New Orleans and a lass from Yorkshire was working in the hospital and when we told her where we were staying her eyes nearly popped out of head and she was quick to say: "watch what you're doing round there".

But, we saw nothing remotely resembling any problems. People were generous and helpful pretty much to a man/woman. There was the odd homeless bloke and drunk, but nothing to write home about. I don't doubt that parts of New Orleans and Memphis wouldn't be for the faint hearted at midnight, we saw a couple of these places and they looked dog rough, but no one bothered us or even looked threatening. Not that I expected anyone to threaten us at any point.

No guns to be seen. Nor people outside of their homes which was strange. Boiling hot weather like that and people were in-doors all the time, either that or they'd all shot one another and were lying in a pool of blood inside.




NorthernGent -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/12/2014 11:30:50 AM)


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I'm living proof that you can enter and exit the US without getting shot, or even seeing a gun,




Apparently you didn't visit New Jersey.



No, I didn't, Marie.

It was hard work driving the distances we did which I'd imagine by US standards are next to nothing.

I did mange to turn up at the wrong hotel in the wrong city at midnight (Jackson, Mississippi) when we should have been in New Orleans.

That didn't go down well with everyone else. Another 4 hour drive at that time of night!

Oh, actually, I did get to New Jersey. Our plane stopped at New Jersey on the way back. I was looking out for you in the airport but didn't see you - a bit disappointed really.




BamaD -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/12/2014 11:47:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent


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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent



I'm living proof that you can enter and exit the US without getting shot, or even seeing a gun,




Apparently you didn't visit New Jersey.



No, I didn't, Marie.

It was hard work driving the distances we did which I'd imagine by US standards are next to nothing.

I did mange to turn up at the wrong hotel in the wrong city at midnight (Jackson, Mississippi) when we should have been in New Orleans.

That didn't go down well with everyone else. Another 4 hour drive at that time of night!

Oh, actually, I did get to New Jersey. Our plane stopped at New Jersey on the way back. I was looking out for you in the airport but didn't see you - a bit disappointed really.


lol




deathtothepixies -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/12/2014 4:02:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten


I think for myself and question when something doesnt sit right with me.


I think the gun is thinking for you



Well that could be the problem right there. You think guns are capable of thinking and they are not. Maybe you should switch off the cartoons and join the rest of the adults in the real world.


I think guns change the way people think.

Family Guy is great btw but the choice of a repressed homosexual psychotic baby as an avatar speaks volumes, I think




BamaD -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/12/2014 4:25:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten


I think for myself and question when something doesnt sit right with me.


I think the gun is thinking for you



Well that could be the problem right there. You think guns are capable of thinking and they are not. Maybe you should switch off the cartoons and join the rest of the adults in the real world.


I think guns change the way people think.

Family Guy is great btw but the choice of a repressed homosexual psychotic baby as an avatar speaks volumes, I think

you are entitled to your opinion, even though it's wrong.
BTW how many gun owners, let alone people who carry do you personally know?




deathtothepixies -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/12/2014 4:45:43 PM)


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I think guns change the way people think.

you are entitled to your opinion, even though it's wrong.
?


thanks for allowing me to have an opinion even though it is wrong, lol

so you are actually saying that a person armed with a gun will think and react in exactly the same way as an unarmed person?

Really?

I vaguely recall you saying something about pulling your gun, or just showing it to diffuse a situation on numerous occasions.

Being a Brit I obviously don't have a gun but I have been in situations that started to look bad, and guess what? I left. Why? Because I didn't have a gun? No, because I didn't want a confrontation, I didn't want a fight, I didn't want trouble so I walked away. I said to my mates " I don't like the look of this" or" I am getting a bad vibe here, lets go"

You're the one with the gun, you're the one getting into situations where you feel the need to show it/use it.

But clearly my opinion is wrong and ownership of a gun doesn't change the way someone thinks at all, ever.

Black and white one eyed inability to see the other sides point gets us nowhere





quizzicalkitten -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/12/2014 5:12:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


I think guns change the way people think.

you are entitled to your opinion, even though it's wrong.
?


thanks for allowing me to have an opinion even though it is wrong, lol

so you are actually saying that a person armed with a gun will think and react in exactly the same way as an unarmed person?

Really?

I vaguely recall you saying something about pulling your gun, or just showing it to diffuse a situation on numerous occasions.

Being a Brit I obviously don't have a gun but I have been in situations that started to look bad, and guess what? I left. Why? Because I didn't have a gun? No, because I didn't want a confrontation, I didn't want a fight, I didn't want trouble so I walked away. I said to my mates " I don't like the look of this" or" I am getting a bad vibe here, lets go"

You're the one with the gun, you're the one getting into situations where you feel the need to show it/use it.

But clearly my opinion is wrong and ownership of a gun doesn't change the way someone thinks at all, ever.

Black and white one eyed inability to see the other sides point gets us nowhere




I really would like to know how many people you know before and after they started carrying....

Because my opinions havent changed, instead of using a knife or baton or mace to defend myself I use my gun, and only when the situation demands its use.




BamaD -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/12/2014 5:13:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


I think guns change the way people think.

you are entitled to your opinion, even though it's wrong.
?


thanks for allowing me to have an opinion even though it is wrong, lol

so you are actually saying that a person armed with a gun will think and react in exactly the same way as an unarmed person?

Really?

I vaguely recall you saying something about pulling your gun, or just showing it to diffuse a situation on numerous occasions.

Being a Brit I obviously don't have a gun but I have been in situations that started to look bad, and guess what? I left. Why? Because I didn't have a gun? No, because I didn't want a confrontation, I didn't want a fight, I didn't want trouble so I walked away. I said to my mates " I don't like the look of this" or" I am getting a bad vibe here, lets go"

You're the one with the gun, you're the one getting into situations where you feel the need to show it/use it.

But clearly my opinion is wrong and ownership of a gun doesn't change the way someone thinks at all, ever.

Black and white one eyed inability to see the other sides point gets us nowhere





In each case I was on my porch exactly where was I supposed to retreat to?
I was literally with my back to the wall.
Did it ever occur to you that people aren't willing to fight back because they have a gun, but have a gun because they are willing to fight back.
As for your last comment you have shown zero inclination to see any view but your own.




thishereboi -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/12/2014 7:05:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten


I think for myself and question when something doesnt sit right with me.


I think the gun is thinking for you



Well that could be the problem right there. You think guns are capable of thinking and they are not. Maybe you should switch off the cartoons and join the rest of the adults in the real world.


I think guns change the way people think.

Family Guy is great btw but the choice of a repressed homosexual psychotic baby as an avatar speaks volumes, I think


I suppose if you take the time you can read all kinds of weird shit from it. But all it will tell us is how your mind thinks. Personally I have always thought of him as a smart ass kid, nothing more. Interesting where you took it.




BamaD -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/12/2014 9:38:30 PM)

FR

Today Nicolas Holzer of Goleta CA stabbed both of his parents his 10 and 13 year old sons, and the family dog to death.




ThirdWheelWanted -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/12/2014 11:59:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies
so you are actually saying that a person armed with a gun will think and react in exactly the same way as an unarmed person?

Really?

I vaguely recall you saying something about pulling your gun, or just showing it to diffuse a situation on numerous occasions.

Being a Brit I obviously don't have a gun but I have been in situations that started to look bad, and guess what? I left. Why? Because I didn't have a gun? No, because I didn't want a confrontation, I didn't want a fight, I didn't want trouble so I walked away. I said to my mates " I don't like the look of this" or" I am getting a bad vibe here, lets go"

You're the one with the gun, you're the one getting into situations where you feel the need to show it/use it.

But clearly my opinion is wrong and ownership of a gun doesn't change the way someone thinks at all, ever.

Black and white one eyed inability to see the other sides point gets us nowhere


Why is it that you seem to think that the minute someone carries they lose all ability to think of anything else? Bama has said on numerous occasions that a gun just adds another option, and I tend to agree. I've carried for years, longer if you count the time I was in the Army. I try to avoid dangerous situations in the first place, but sometimes they're unavoidable. I've had times where I've had "vibes", and the first thing I do is try to get the hell out of there. Most of the time, that works, but there have been two times it hasn't. Even in those, I've never had to draw my gun or shot anyone, I just had to show that I was armed and that was the end of the problem. For the most part, I own guns because I enjoy shooting. I meet some friends and we go and shoot holes in paper. I'd be quite happy if I never have to use a gun for more then that. But, if I'm ever in the situation where I have to kill someone to keep them from killing me or mine, then I want to be able to make that choice. Not have it made for me by people who don't like guns.





Raiikun -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/13/2014 5:31:35 AM)


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Nope. You haven't answered the question at all - you dodged it completely.


To be fair, it's an absolutely worthless question.




marie2 -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/13/2014 9:48:28 AM)

Still a right cock after all these years.




thompsonx -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/13/2014 10:19:01 AM)


ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten

Because my opinions havent changed, instead of using a knife or baton or mace to defend myself I use my gun, and only when the situation demands its use.

Well of course you do[8|]






thompsonx -> RE: Thank God he didn't have a gun (8/13/2014 10:21:27 AM)

ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

I think guns change the way people think.



you are entitled to your opinion, even though it's wrong.

You have told us many times how carrying a gun makes you braver. So while he is entitled to his opinion he clearly is not wrong.




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