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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/28/2014 1:03:53 PM   
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Yes, I am all for that, and they can pay extra for police protection, may not spend any money in the us for political purposes, lobbyists, pay extra for any use of american resources such as roads, and higher property taxes on their buildings and grounds.........register with the state department as foreign agents, and we need some legislative actions that would raise foreign based corporate taxes in the US above those paid by Americans.

I would say that aint ever gonna happen since it would violate various free trade agreements and also those countries could do the same to US corps doing business in their country.. not to mention the economic chill in the US it would create if the US govt tried that.. But I guess what google, Microsoft, apple, etc do with their private tax deals with the IRS so they pay considerably less are ok with you? hmmm...

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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/28/2014 1:14:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree that it is a pipe dream, but I am not a free market communist.

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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/28/2014 1:54:46 PM   
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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/28/2014 3:01:34 PM   
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Yes, I am all for that, and they can pay extra for police protection, may not spend any money in the us for political purposes, lobbyists, pay extra for any use of american resources such as roads, and higher property taxes on their buildings and grounds.........register with the state department as foreign agents, and we need some legislative actions that would raise foreign based corporate taxes in the US above those paid by Americans.

I would say that aint ever gonna happen since it would violate various free trade agreements and also those countries could do the same to US corps doing business in their country.. not to mention the economic chill in the US it would create if the US govt tried that.. But I guess what google, Microsoft, apple, etc do with their private tax deals with the IRS so they pay considerably less are ok with you? hmmm...


Let's also not forget that the taxes that will be paid to Federal/State/Local governments are already levied to be used for roads, property taxes, etc.

I wonder if GM faces the same scrutiny since it's owned by an Italian company...


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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/28/2014 3:16:34 PM   
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Yes, I am all for that, and they can pay extra for police protection, may not spend any money in the us for political purposes, lobbyists, pay extra for any use of american resources such as roads, and higher property taxes on their buildings and grounds.........register with the state department as foreign agents, and we need some legislative actions that would raise foreign based corporate taxes in the US above those paid by Americans.

I would say that aint ever gonna happen since it would violate various free trade agreements and also those countries could do the same to US corps doing business in their country.. not to mention the economic chill in the US it would create if the US govt tried that.. But I guess what google, Microsoft, apple, etc do with their private tax deals with the IRS so they pay considerably less are ok with you? hmmm...


Let's also not forget that the taxes that will be paid to Federal/State/Local governments are already levied to be used for roads, property taxes, etc.

I wonder if GM faces the same scrutiny since it's owned by an Italian company...


I believe that was Chrysler not GM that...merged with Fiat.

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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/28/2014 3:27:18 PM   
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I agree that it is a pipe dream, but I am not a free market communist.

You keep using that. Isn't free market communist as oxymoronic as free market capitalist ? The last thing the capitalist wants is a free market,,,wanting simply 'his' market without competition and I am thinking the communist wouldn't know a free market of he tripped over one...not really knowing 'markets' at all ?

Now China's communists being in fact fascist capitalists, simply have come to understand that Marxism was simply blue collar skimming...the capitalist being gold plated...really know how to skim off oppressed labor.

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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/28/2014 3:46:12 PM   
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Now China's communists being in fact fascist capitalists, simply have come to understand that Marxism was simply blue collar skimming...the capitalist being gold plated...really know how to skim off oppressed labor.


Would you be so kind as to elucidate.

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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/28/2014 4:12:50 PM   
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Now China's communists being in fact fascist capitalists, simply have come to understand that Marxism was simply blue collar skimming...the capitalist being gold plated...really know how to skim off oppressed labor.


Would you be so kind as to elucidate.


With what little that was produced under the Soviet's Marxism there being a shortage of almost everything except Vodka and oil, the communist had little to dole out to the party elites. Nobody was getting much richer at all. Soon they fell and as much from their own failures.

Under China's version which isn't communism at all, the resources and products are provided by the capitalist west, mainly the US.

Enjoying even cheaper labor of some 600 million people that would otherwise be starving peasants, than Soviet communist labor, the 'party' having adopted all manor of corrupt western methods and improvising on them such as forced partnerships, going to trading paper, local corruption, party insiders becoming the kelptocratic class of all history, stealing everything that only Putin et al only later come to recognize...represents the future and THE role model for the NWO and the coming world wide capitalist fascism.

Hey...these things take time OK ? While BTW, according to the 'communist party' govt., [sic] if you make more than $1/day in China...you are not poor. I am sure the western capitalist sees a certain profitable beauty to that. Well...isn't there ?

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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/28/2014 5:56:27 PM   
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Yes, I am all for that, and they can pay extra for police protection, may not spend any money in the us for political purposes, lobbyists, pay extra for any use of american resources such as roads, and higher property taxes on their buildings and grounds.........register with the state department as foreign agents, and we need some legislative actions that would raise foreign based corporate taxes in the US above those paid by Americans.

I would say that aint ever gonna happen since it would violate various free trade agreements and also those countries could do the same to US corps doing business in their country.. not to mention the economic chill in the US it would create if the US govt tried that.. But I guess what google, Microsoft, apple, etc do with their private tax deals with the IRS so they pay considerably less are ok with you? hmmm...

Let's also not forget that the taxes that will be paid to Federal/State/Local governments are already levied to be used for roads, property taxes, etc.
I wonder if GM faces the same scrutiny since it's owned by an Italian company...

I believe that was Chrysler not GM that...merged with Fiat.


Yep. My error. Thanks for pointing it out.




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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/28/2014 6:53:53 PM   
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Yes, I am all for that, and they can pay extra for police protection, may not spend any money in the us for political purposes, lobbyists, pay extra for any use of american resources such as roads, and higher property taxes on their buildings and grounds.........register with the state department as foreign agents, and we need some legislative actions that would raise foreign based corporate taxes in the US above those paid by Americans.


Trade wars

Great idea

Why not just build higher walls to keep our people in. With towers, spotlights and sharpshooters

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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/29/2014 5:22:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		It would also keep out the evil muslims and the little venezuelan children who are coming to take your guns away, so you should be all for that.

The American 'protectionist' economy has a long line of august defenders, from George Washington, down thru the centuries by real republican conservatives. This freemarket communism is a nutsacker hallucination, not American, and not conservative at all. It started falling apart at Eisenhower.

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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/29/2014 5:36:48 AM   
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It would also keep out the evil muslims and the little venezuelan children who are coming to take your guns away, so you should be all for that.

The American 'protectionist' economy has a long line of august defenders, from George Washington, down thru the centuries by real republican conservatives. This freemarket communism is a nutsacker hallucination, not American, and not conservative at all. It started falling apart at Eisenhower.


Theyre probably all happier in the UK anyway, as you would be

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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/29/2014 5:47:59 AM   
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The US corporate tax rate is 39.1 % which is the highest rate of all developed countries. Why don't we lower that rate and end any incentives for these companies to leave our shores. ?


How are the politicians supposed to obtain the money to buy votes if they lower taxes?

Power at any cost, you know.

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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/29/2014 5:49:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ja, I think that there arent many here anyhow, nowhere near the 11 million that Reagan and the nutsackers let into this country, and you living on your little communist compound there in your own sovereign state of Insanity and do you really think anyone gives even the glimmer of a good goddamn fuck about your imbecilic slobbering ass?



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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/29/2014 5:51:00 AM   
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The US corporate tax rate is 39.1 % which is the highest rate of all developed countries. Why don't we lower that rate and end any incentives for these companies to leave our shores. ?


How are the politicians supposed to obtain the money to buy votes if they lower taxes?

Power at any cost, you know.



Ja, its the only thing that keeps nutsackers in office besides heinous gerrymanderings.


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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/29/2014 6:15:05 AM   
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Dance, little imbecilic troll. Dance...

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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/29/2014 6:18:35 AM   
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Yes, I am all for that, and they can pay extra for police protection, may not spend any money in the us for political purposes, lobbyists, pay extra for any use of american resources such as roads, and higher property taxes on their buildings and grounds.........register with the state department as foreign agents, and we need some legislative actions that would raise foreign based corporate taxes in the US above those paid by Americans.


Trade wars

Great idea

Why not just build higher walls to keep our people in. With towers, spotlights and sharpshooters


It's funny how you keep going on and on about imaginary "threats" overseas, but those who threaten to destroy the US economy get a free pass by you.

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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/29/2014 7:09:25 AM   
tj444


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The US corporate tax rate is 39.1 % which is the highest rate of all developed countries. Why don't we lower that rate and end any incentives for these companies to leave our shores. ?


How are the politicians supposed to obtain the money to buy votes if they lower taxes?

Power at any cost, you know.

Politicians don't actually need the money to buy votes, they just need to tell the voters what bribes they want to hear, then blame the lack of money to fulfill their promises on the last guy in office.. lol

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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/29/2014 7:32:38 AM   
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Dance, little imbecilic troll. Dance...


I dont need to dance when you prance around here like a peri-menopausal drag queen in high dudgeon in your clown shoes.

My participation in your cretinous dickwadness would be di minimous.




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RE: OMG.. Another US corporate Tax Inversion!!! - 8/29/2014 7:38:07 AM   
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Yes, I am all for that, and they can pay extra for police protection, may not spend any money in the us for political purposes, lobbyists, pay extra for any use of american resources such as roads, and higher property taxes on their buildings and grounds.........register with the state department as foreign agents, and we need some legislative actions that would raise foreign based corporate taxes in the US above those paid by Americans.


Trade wars

Great idea

Why not just build higher walls to keep our people in. With towers, spotlights and sharpshooters

OMG.

There's a political position on which we actually agree. Strongly even.

Well, not about the sharpshooters, but I'm assuming that part's irony.

And, it has long been an essential part of my disagreement with Democrats -- global free trade is here to stay, and for good reason.

Interestingly, in our bizarre political climate today, it's also among my disagreements with the Tea Party conservative wing.

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