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This, of course, would lead to a global war of Islamics against everyone else; but I see no other sensible option.

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I am not advocating for war, but for honesty. Islam is a dark ages cult of personality bent on total world domination at any cost

There are peaceful factions, but the core teachings of their scriptures are reprehensible and that is what needs to be put on the table and discussed in very frank terms

I quite agree.

You can discuss it all you like.
The problem is well known.
The problem is.... nobody in this world is going to sit down and say it to their faces.

It truly needs to be said and in unambiguous terms: "your basic religious tenet is anathema to world peace and must be changed at it's core".
If they cannot control their own factions and allow (and even promote) Jihadist teachings, then the rest of the world needs to step in and eradicate all those that are trouble-some.
This, of course, would lead to a global war of Islamics against everyone else; but I see no other sensible option.

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This, of course, would lead to a global war of Islamics against everyone else; but I see no other sensible option.

It is my opinion that there are many millions of Muslims who would gladly climb on board

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There is video and pictures, in case one is slow

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He may have been agreeing with you and calling the situation PC BS.

If that's the case... then it's my bad... and full apologies.

My cousin was working with the social services on 4 or 5 cases where there were threats of muggings, beatings and even threats of honour killings.
She even tracked down the illegal Sharia Court that upheld these vile decisions and the local 'cleric' that held the sessions.
She has been told to drop them all for fear of Muslim riots in a sensitive Muslim area.
And because that order came directly from her superior, she isn't even allowed to go to the media about it for fear of losing her job that she worked very hard to get.

To me, when it gets that bad, there needs to be a whistle-blower to open the can of worms.
This is part of the same mindset that allowed Rotherham and Rochdale to fail soo many young women.

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One quarter of the world population is Muslim.

First, we're clearly not having this disagreement with 1/4 of the world.
And second, sitting down to explain to 1/4 of the world that they're fucked up is not likely to go well.

Or happen.

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One quarter of the world population is Muslim.

First, we're clearly not having this disagreement with 1/4 of the world.
And second, sitting down to explain to 1/4 of the world that they're fucked up is not likely to go well.

Or happen.

Can you explain why their basic teachings are to destroy, kill, and eliminate all infidels??
There are no exceptions in their religion - their holy book spells it out; be one of us or die.

Now take a good look at all the trouble spots around the world....
Pretty much the whole of the middle east is an Islamic hot spot.
If they aren't capturing and killing infidels, they're killing other Islamic factions they don't agree with.
Across most of Africa, most of the shit is caused by militant Jihadists.
Even in India and across into Indonesia, it's the Islamics stirring up the shit one way or the other.
All the European shit is caused by Islamics.

This isn't just a tiny handful of people stirring up trouble - it's damned near half the populated world!!
And, what's worse, is that it will never stop until they rule the world and with varying degrees of Sharia law.

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So, they've got the local police cowed because they're afraid of riots? Is that all it takes to get them to bend over?

That's not even PC. For all its faults, the motivations behind PC were not out of fear. There's nothing about PC that says that blatant violations of human rights should be ignored. If the local police were afraid of the Muslims, then that's on them and can't really be blamed on PC.

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They've been fighting one another in the Middle East since humans walked the earth.

We weren't involved with that until we stuck our noses in there trying to bring our brand of enlightenment to them.

We leave them alone, and they will go back to trading warm camel shit with each other.

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One quarter of the world population is Muslim.

First, we're clearly not having this disagreement with 1/4 of the world.
And second, sitting down to explain to 1/4 of the world that they're fucked up is not likely to go well.

Or happen.

Can you explain why their basic teachings are to destroy, kill, and eliminate all infidels??
There are no exceptions in their religion - their holy book spells it out; be one of us or die.

Now take a good look at all the trouble spots around the world....
Pretty much the whole of the middle east is an Islamic hot spot.
If they aren't capturing and killing infidels, they're killing other Islamic factions they don't agree with.
Across most of Africa, most of the shit is caused by militant Jihadists.
Even in India and across into Indonesia, it's the Islamics stirring up the shit one way or the other.
All the European shit is caused by Islamics.

This isn't just a tiny handful of people stirring up trouble - it's damned near half the populated world!!
And, what's worse, is that it will never stop until they rule the world and with varying degrees of Sharia law.

Can you explain why 1/4 of the world isn't trying to convert or kill the other 3/4s?

You have a really simplistic (and inaccurate) picture of conflicts in Africa (where tribal ethnicity is a far greater source of brutal conflict) and India (where Hindus are half the conflict) in particular.

Your wearing jihadist colored glasses, and reality doesn't support your creations.

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And that STILL doesn't make them 1/4 of the world trying to convert/kill the other 3/4.

You are taking a slice and trying to make it the whole. That's not my utopia--that's me looking at the real problem, not the fantasy in your head.

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I think your math skills have atrophied.

I have Muslim friends as well. None of them gives a shit whether I'm a Druid or a Shinto.

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This isn't the 8th century.

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Muslims make religious doctrine (aka hatred of other religions) their raison d'etre.

Do they? Is this on record somewhere?

Yes it is on record. It is in the book that they worship and live their lives by. It is called the koran.

Its also on record in the Hebrew Scriptures and the New Testament.

(circa 185-254 CE) to write: "Therefore the blood of Jesus came not only upon those who lived formerly but also upon all subsequent generations of Jews..." The Christian church taught until recently that all Jews -- past, present and future -- are equally responsible for the death of Christ. 2

(Psalms 79:6): "Pour out thy wrath upon the heathen that have not known thee, and upon the kingdoms that have not called upon thy name." This is a call to God to commit genocide against persons of other faiths who are either unfamiliar with Judaism and Christianity, or who have learned and rejected these religions.

(Exodus 22:20): "He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed."

And so it goes on.