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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/10/2014 11:15:26 AM   
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I see some peeps are still moanin on about the same ol' shit. Broken record on the turntable DJ . Play another tune, it's boring! Besides the fact it is untrue. Still screaming like babies in pampers, RACIST. What a dud. Could not will not and cannot ever shoot straight. I think the fuckers are gay, really. Why else would they talk out of their arseholes? Must be stargazers, watching brown supernova explosions tunneling outta black holes...

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/10/2014 11:32:17 AM   
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or told you Sharia law is above UK law.


Actually...over here thats in the news right now, as in some towns radical muslims are roaming the streets at the moment with a sign on their vest "sharia law officer" ... in a previous town my partner used to live they have also beaten up (last year or two years ago) a drunk person for being drunk and told girls to wear a burka...today they mentioned in the radio to call the police when we see them as - needless to say - thats not accepted...

So whilst I haven't experienced that...it does happen...



Are you talking about the UK Phoenix, or Germany. I am unsure about the latter but in the UK, UK Law trumps everything.

Try telling that to the local Sharia courts who appear to completely ignore any UK law.


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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/10/2014 12:01:27 PM   
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During the World Wars and the early part of the Cold War, whatever "threat" Islam may have represented at the time was totally off the radar of U.S. policymakers. Turkey was considered beaten and impotent, while most of the rest of the Muslim world was firmly under European (primarily Anglo-French) hegemony, from the Malay Peninsula to Morocco. From America's standpoint, we didn't really have to worry about those territories or whatever threat they may have posed, since they were mostly in other countries' spheres of influence, not ours - not yet.




World War One, the Ottoman Empire fought on the side of the Central Powers. Have you heard of a battle called Gallipoli? Mel Gibson was in the movie of the same name. Siege of Kut?



The film Gallipoli is nonsense.

The Aussies paint it that they were the only ones there and to this day most of them have no idea that for every Aussie who gave their life, 7 Britons gave theirs. It's even possible that more Frenchmen died than Aussies but can't remember the exact figures.

And, if Mel Gibson is in a film then you can bet your life it's gonna be shite.


That is a lie. Mel Gibson is awesome. Yeah, I know that he has gotten all weird and stuff. But I have always thought that he was some great eye candy! Hamlet, the Mad Max series, Mavrick, Braveheart, the Patriot, Payback, and What Women Want!

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/10/2014 12:15:11 PM   
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The film Gallipoli is nonsense.

The Aussies paint it that they were the only ones there and to this day most of them have no idea that for every Aussie who gave their life, 7 Britons gave theirs. It's even possible that more Frenchmen died than Aussies but can't remember the exact figures.

And, if Mel Gibson is in a film then you can bet your life it's gonna be shite.

That is a lie. Mel Gibson is awesome. Yeah, I know that he has gotten all weird and stuff. But I have always thought that he was some great eye candy! Hamlet, the Mad Max series, Mavrick, Braveheart, the Patriot, Payback, and What Women Want!

He sure used to be awesomely sexy as hell. Pre-"Lethal Weapon" franchise (other than "Braveheart"). His breakout film was "The Year of Living Dangerously," with a stellar performance. Peeps forget he was theatre-trained and is a fine, serious actor in his own right, not to mention his directing and production talents.

But...*deep sigh* the pinnacle of his fuckability? OMG, "The Bounty." Oh, my heart be still.

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/10/2014 12:23:23 PM   
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During the World Wars and the early part of the Cold War, whatever "threat" Islam may have represented at the time was totally off the radar of U.S. policymakers. Turkey was considered beaten and impotent, while most of the rest of the Muslim world was firmly under European (primarily Anglo-French) hegemony, from the Malay Peninsula to Morocco. From America's standpoint, we didn't really have to worry about those territories or whatever threat they may have posed, since they were mostly in other countries' spheres of influence, not ours - not yet.




World War One, the Ottoman Empire fought on the side of the Central Powers. Have you heard of a battle called Gallipoli? Mel Gibson was in the movie of the same name. Siege of Kut?



The film Gallipoli is nonsense.

The Aussies paint it that they were the only ones there and to this day most of them have no idea that for every Aussie who gave their life, 7 Britons gave theirs. It's even possible that more Frenchmen died than Aussies but can't remember the exact figures.

And, if Mel Gibson is in a film then you can bet your life it's gonna be shite.


That is a lie. Mel Gibson is awesome. Yeah, I know that he has gotten all weird and stuff. But I have always thought that he was some great eye candy! Hamlet, the Mad Max series, Mavrick, Braveheart, the Patriot, Payback, and What Women Want!


Aylee, I would never get in the way of a woman's quest for Mel Gibson, but you'd find better actors at the local soup kitchen.


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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/10/2014 12:30:31 PM   
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or told you Sharia law is above UK law.


Actually...over here thats in the news right now, as in some towns radical muslims are roaming the streets at the moment with a sign on their vest "sharia law officer" ... in a previous town my partner used to live they have also beaten up (last year or two years ago) a drunk person for being drunk and told girls to wear a burka...today they mentioned in the radio to call the police when we see them as - needless to say - thats not accepted...

So whilst I haven't experienced that...it does happen...



Are you talking about the UK Phoenix, or Germany. I am unsure about the latter but in the UK, UK Law trumps everything.

Try telling that to the local Sharia courts who appear to completely ignore any UK law.



I am talking about Germany in this case...

this was the recent situation: http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/world/sharia-police-are-patrolling-the-streets-where-might-just-surprise-you

http://www.dw.de/germany-wont-tolerate-sharia-police/a-17906086

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4681/germany-sharia-police

I can't find an article about Bonn from last year or 2 years ago, but there - according to my partner - self-named Sharia-police told girls in Bonn to wear a burka and did beat up a person who was drunk after going home from a disco....

So over here it is in the news right now...




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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/10/2014 12:45:02 PM   
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It happens over here more than NG and PS would like to admit.
And, because it is very racist, tends to just get a quick snippet in local news rather than anything national.

We had an incident locally where a girl was attacked by local Muslim men for wearing western clothes.
According to our local shopkeeper (it was his daughter that was attacked), the local Sharia court defended the actions of the men and told the girl she must cover up according to Islamic traditions.
The poor girl is confined to the house. The local police appear to do nothing - the shopkeeper was told it was a religious dispute and nothing to do with UK law.
We can't find anything in the local press or media outlets... Not a thing.
It seems the whole thing has been brushed under the carpet and just didn't happen.
My cousin is a local WPC and she knows of this incident. She was told to 'bury it'.

We have friends scattered across the country and we hear of this sort of thing happening all the time.
Similar things are no longer a minority event, it's just covered up and swept under the carpet for fears of racist actions against those reporting these events or attempting to take any action.


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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/10/2014 1:54:41 PM   
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We have friends scattered across the country and we hear of this sort of thing happening all the time.
Similar things are no longer a minority event, it's just covered up and swept under the carpet for fears of racist actions against those reporting these events or attempting to take any action.



Nail on the head: "we hear".

There's no substitute for experience, mate.

If this is no longer a minority event, then why haven't I seen this?

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/10/2014 4:15:12 PM   
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Maybe you are looking the other way?

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/10/2014 4:15:59 PM   
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Try telling that to the local Sharia courts who appear to completely ignore any UK law.




Put down the Sun and find me actual examples.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/12/muslim-scare-stories-media-halal-sharia-niqab

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/11/2014 11:26:50 AM   
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Here's a spoiler: There were 3 primary partners and about 20 minor members of an outfit known as the "Axis". The 3 core members had distinctly different reasons for their aggression. Being from Australia, I'd have thought they might have taught you about the Pacific theater of WW2, which had not one fucking thing to do with the war in Europe. I don't know where you're getting 55 million as a death toll for WW2, and I don't really care.

Perhaps she was refering to the @55 million people that the nazi's murdered and not the total number of deaths in the war which was quite a bit more than 55 million.


The Pacific War Online Encyclopedia cites 70 million deaths as a result of WW2, with over half of the death toll occurring in the Pacific Theater. Lets call it an even 50% for simplicity and call it 35 million deaths we can blame on the Nazis.

Which shows how ignorant you are. the russians lost about 25 million the jews about 6 million. Is it your contention that only 4 mllion more died in the whole african,european campagn?



The lowest estimate I've seen for Communist mass murder in the 20th century is 70 million. Wikipedia cites between 85 and 100 million.

As you point out that is a estimate which neither wiki nor you seems able to validate. Where as in amerika the number of dead native americans,blacks and browns and yellows are quite well known and documented.



Clearly, Hitler was a piker.

Fifty millions plus or minus would not a piker make.

But that brings us to Islam and 100 years of mass murder in the 20th Century. By the time you add up the mass murders and genocides attributed to Islam in various wars and acts of genocide, the number is staggering. Muslims started the 20th Century in the middle of an ongoing genocide. Between 1897 and 1922 the Ottoman Empire under Islamic rule killed some 3.5 million Christians in Asia Minor. Between 1904 and 1915 1.3 million people were slaughtered in Armenia alone. Hitler claimed it was his model for the Holocaust.

Actually it was the amerikan use of "reservations" (pow camps according to defense department documents.) for the native americans that hitler commented on so favorably.



I have no doubt that if you add up the varied and sundry genocides, honor killings, war casualties, and terror victims of the world wide Islamic Regimes between 1900 and 1999, the total will be considerably more than 35 million. 3000 people here.... 500k there... a cool million over there... these things add up over the course of a century.

If you could prove such an assanine thing you would have posted it.You cant so you did not. Just more of your typical mindless bullshit.


I'm really not sure what your point is about slavery, considering the largest ongoing slave trade today is perpetrated by Islam in North Africa. Whining about sex slavery in the Bible is pretty poorly timed too,considering the recent events in Rotherham by Islamic rape gangs, and the fact that sexual slavery is condoned in the Quran as well as the Bible.

The primary disconnect here seems to be your inability to come to grips with the fact that Christians are no longer running slave trades in the 21st Century. Nor are they using their religion as an excuse to rape little girls

Catholic priest seem to prefer little boys



like Muslims have done in Britain, Canada, France, Switzerland, the U.S. and (you guessed it) fucking Australia. But then, unlike the Prophet Muhammad, Jesus Christ was neither a slave trader or a pedophile.

He was a sex cadet and a switch hitter who liked to have little children sit on his lap...not unlike michael jackson.

Whether or not these people are "representative" of Islam is wholly irrelevant. What IS relevant is that unlike any other dominant religion in the world, these people keep cropping up to commit atrocities of all kinds over and over and over again.

You say that these people are not representative of islam but then go on to say that they are...doesn't it hurt your mouth to talk out of both sides of it at the same time?



Meanwhile Islamic apologists like you, Politesub, and a few other loony liberals here seem to be unable to grasp the simple fact that there is something fundamentally wrong with a religion that is literally operating under Medieval laws and principles in the 21st Century.

Like the christians do?

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/12/2014 3:05:09 AM   
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Here's a spoiler: There were 3 primary partners and about 20 minor members of an outfit known as the "Axis". The 3 core members had distinctly different reasons for their aggression. Being from Australia, I'd have thought they might have taught you about the Pacific theater of WW2, which had not one fucking thing to do with the war in Europe. I don't know where you're getting 55 million as a death toll for WW2, and I don't really care.

Perhaps she was refering to the @55 million people that the nazi's murdered and not the total number of deaths in the war which was quite a bit more than 55 million.


Since she's considerably more intelligent than you, I bet she could clear up the mystery if she wanted to without relying on your unsubstantiated bullshit. I can cut her some slack for forgetting to post a link for reference. She's generally pretty good about it, and I'm sure she's actually done some minimal research. However. you don't seem capable of ever providing anything to back up your ignorant claims.

Like in this entire conversation for example...

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The Pacific War Online Encyclopedia cites 70 million deaths as a result of WW2, with over half of the death toll occurring in the Pacific Theater. Lets call it an even 50% for simplicity and call it 35 million deaths we can blame on the Nazis.

Which shows how ignorant you are. the russians lost about 25 million the jews about 6 million. Is it your contention that only 4 mllion more died in the whole african,european campagn?


No link, irrelevant question.

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The lowest estimate I've seen for Communist mass murder in the 20th century is 70 million. Wikipedia cites between 85 and 100 million.

As you point out that is a estimate which neither wiki nor you seems able to validate. Where as in amerika the number of dead native americans,blacks and browns and yellows are quite well known and documented.


I constantly wonder if your parents dropped you on your head once too often. An unvalidated claim which is LOWER than a referenced claim is hardly worth pissing your little panties over. The unvalidated claim is still HIGHER than the unvalidated numbers she provided, you moron. The number provided by the link is still HIGHER than both numbers.

Since you claim to have the documentation, please provide evidence that native americans, blacks and browns and yellows have been rounded up in large numbers so the American government for the express purpose of racial, ethnic, or religious genocide in the last 100 years.

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Clearly, Hitler was a piker.

Fifty millions plus or minus would not a piker make.


Again... no link. This claim of 55 million people killed by Hitler's Germany appears to be something out of your ridiculous imaginings.

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But that brings us to Islam and 100 years of mass murder in the 20th Century. By the time you add up the mass murders and genocides attributed to Islam in various wars and acts of genocide, the number is staggering. Muslims started the 20th Century in the middle of an ongoing genocide. Between 1897 and 1922 the Ottoman Empire under Islamic rule killed some 3.5 million Christians in Asia Minor. Between 1904 and 1915 1.3 million people were slaughtered in Armenia alone. Hitler claimed it was his model for the Holocaust.

Actually it was the amerikan use of "reservations" (pow camps according to defense department documents.) for the native americans that hitler commented on so favorably.


Actually it was both, but why quibble. People contest the "Armenian Quote", but it appears in transcripts of a speech by Hitler that was used as evidence in the Nuremburg Trials. It also appears in at least one book commissioned by the British government (Documents on British Foreign Policy, 1919–1939). Since you don't apparently know how to do your own research, I'll make this easy for you. The quote you're referring to is attributed to Mein Kampf. I don't remember it, but I haven't read it in over 30 years. However, I'm willing to accept that it is there just to move this along.

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I have no doubt that if you add up the varied and sundry genocides, honor killings, war casualties, and terror victims of the world wide Islamic Regimes between 1900 and 1999, the total will be considerably more than 35 million. 3000 people here.... 500k there... a cool million over there... these things add up over the course of a century.

If you could prove such an assanine thing you would have posted it.You cant so you did not. Just more of your typical mindless bullshit.


Okay dumbass.... what do you think the words "I have no doubt" might suggest. Actual thinking people would understand that whatever statement follows is a belief or an opinion. Perhaps cultivating a working knowledge of conversational English should be more of a priority for you than trying in vain to sound like you have more than a room temperature I.Q.

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I'm really not sure what your point is about slavery, considering the largest ongoing slave trade today is perpetrated by Islam in North Africa. Whining about sex slavery in the Bible is pretty poorly timed too,considering the recent events in Rotherham by Islamic rape gangs, and the fact that sexual slavery is condoned in the Quran as well as the Bible.

The primary disconnect here seems to be your inability to come to grips with the fact that Christians are no longer running slave trades in the 21st Century. Nor are they using their religion as an excuse to rape little girls

Catholic priest seem to prefer little boys


like Muslims have done in Britain, Canada, France, Switzerland, the U.S. and (you guessed it) fucking Australia. But then, unlike the Prophet Muhammad, Jesus Christ was neither a slave trader or a pedophile.

He was a sex cadet and a switch hitter who liked to have little children sit on his lap...not unlike michael jackson.


Awwww.... were you touched inappropriately by Jesus? Don't bother answering. I really don't care. Well, that's not entirely true. I actually kinda hope you were...

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Whether or not these people are "representative" of Islam is wholly irrelevant. What IS relevant is that unlike any other dominant religion in the world, these people keep cropping up to commit atrocities of all kinds over and over and over again.

You say that these people are not representative of islam but then go on to say that they are...doesn't it hurt your mouth to talk out of both sides of it at the same time?


I'm sorry, when did I say anyone was "representative" of Islam? Oh, wait! I didn't. You're just too fucking stupid to understand the written word. I would ask if that hurts you, but these little exercises with you have made me believe that you post your ignorant bullshit out of some masochistic need to be ridiculed.

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Meanwhile Islamic apologists like you, Politesub, and a few other loony liberals here seem to be unable to grasp the simple fact that there is something fundamentally wrong with a religion that is literally operating under Medieval laws and principles in the 21st Century.

Like the christians do?


Please provide a link as evidence that people in the 21st century (that's the year 2000 to now) have been beheading people of different religions, engaged in genocidal enterprises, intentionally flown airplanes into buildings, or formed combat units for conducting military offensives in the name of Jesus Christ.

(That should be entertaining.)

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/12/2014 6:55:38 AM   
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Yeah you're right it's the bushclan who dropped the two towers. Its a conspiracy to downgrade islam. Do not fear religion, embrace one God and you'll be saved brother.

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/12/2014 7:02:08 AM   
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Try telling that to the local Sharia courts who appear to completely ignore any UK law.




Put down the Sun and find me actual examples.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/12/muslim-scare-stories-media-halal-sharia-niqab

Funny, when others produce a link from the guardian its tabloid. But when you do its not? Whahahahahaaaah

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/12/2014 7:06:49 AM   
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Meanwhile Islamic apologists like you, Politesub, and a few other loony liberals here seem to be unable to grasp the simple fact that there is something fundamentally wrong with a religion that is literally operating under Medieval laws and principles in the 21st Century.

Like the christians do?

Please provide a link as evidence that people in the 21st century (that's the year 2000 to now) have been beheading people of different religions,

It would appear that your limited intellectual ability limits "medievel laws and principles" to beheading. Your "stellar intellect" is clearly on display here.


engaged in genocidal enterprises, intentionally flown airplanes into buildings, or formed combat units for conducting military offensives in the name of Jesus Christ.

Christians seem pretty happy when the u.s. flys airplanes/drones into buildings in the name of defeating islam.

(That should be entertaining.)

Pointing our your abject ignorance is always fun.




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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/12/2014 7:14:12 AM   
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Here's a spoiler: There were 3 primary partners and about 20 minor members of an outfit known as the "Axis". The 3 core members had distinctly different reasons for their aggression. Being from Australia, I'd have thought they might have taught you about the Pacific theater of WW2, which had not one fucking thing to do with the war in Europe. I don't know where you're getting 55 million as a death toll for WW2, and I don't really care.

Perhaps she was refering to the @55 million people that the nazi's murdered and not the total number of deaths in the war which was quite a bit more than 55 million.[/quote]

Since she's considerably more intelligent than you,

This would be your ignorant unsubstantiated opinion.



I bet she could clear up the mystery if she wanted to without relying on your unsubstantiated bullshit.


Or you could let your fingers wander over to google and disabuse yourself of your self imposed ignorance.


I can cut her some slack for forgetting to post a link for reference. She's generally pretty good about it, and I'm sure she's actually done some minimal research. However. you don't seem capable of ever providing anything to back up your ignorant claims.

Why do you feel it is an ignorant claim that germany was involved in ww2? If you feel it is untrue you could post a link that refuted it. You cant so you did not.
Why do you feel it is ignorant to claim that germany killed about 25 million russians if you feel it is untrue you could post a link that refuted it. you cant so you did not.
Why do you feel that it is ignorant to claim that more than 55 million people died as a result of ww2? If you feel it is untrue you cold post a link that refuted it. You cant so you did not.
Pretty simple really.






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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/12/2014 7:17:04 AM   
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link=http://pwencycl.kgbudge.com/C/a/Casualties.htm]The Pacific War Online Encyclopedia[/link] cites 70 million deaths as a result of WW2, with over half of the death toll occurring in the Pacific Theater. Lets call it an even 50% for simplicity and call it 35 million deaths we can blame on the Nazis.

Which shows how ignorant you are. the russians lost about 25 million the jews about 6 million. Is it your contention that only 4 mllion more died in the whole african,european campagn?

No link, irrelevant question.

You have no brains. You are an irrelevant poster.



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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/12/2014 7:27:42 AM   
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The lowest estimate I've seen for Communist mass murder in the 20th century is 70 million. Wikipedia cites between 85 and 100 million.

As you point out that is a estimate which neither wiki nor you seems able to validate. Where as in amerika the number of dead native americans,blacks and browns and yellows are quite well known and documented.

I constantly wonder if your parents dropped you on your head once too often.

And yet I consistantly point out your ignorance and outright lies. Perhaps it would have been better if your mom had dropped you on your head a few times, you would not be such an ignorant fool?



An unvalidated claim which is LOWER than a referenced claim is hardly worth pissing your little panties over. The unvalidated claim is still HIGHER than the unvalidated numbers she provided, you moron. The number provided by the link is still HIGHER than both numbers.

If you would check the sources for your link you will find that they all fail to validate your 70 million number.

Since you claim to have the documentation,

I have made no such claim. You might want to get a grownup to help you read the big words.


please provide evidence that native americans, blacks and browns and yellows have been rounded up in large numbers so the American government for the express purpose of racial, ethnic, or religious genocide in the last 100 years.

Is it your position that all of the reservations/pow camps have been abolished and the native americans have had all of their ancesteral lands returned to them?
There was the expulsion for ethnic purposes of over a million american citizens of mexican heritage by the state of california durring the derpression.
The japs were rounded up and put in concentration camps durring ww2.
Your knowledge of u.s. history is pretty limited.



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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/12/2014 7:30:14 AM   
thompsonx


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Clearly, Hitler was a piker.

Fifty millions plus or minus would not a piker make.


Again... no link. This claim of 55 million people killed by Hitler's Germany appears to be something out of your ridiculous imaginings.

Would you like a link to prove that 2+2=4? If you have some proof that the 55 million number is inaccurate you would post it. You have not so it is clear that you cannot.

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RE: Racism and Islamophobia. - 9/12/2014 7:35:28 AM   
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But that brings us to Islam and 100 years of mass murder in the 20th Century. By the time you add up the mass murders and genocides attributed to Islam in various wars and acts of genocide, the number is staggering. Muslims started the 20th Century in the middle of an ongoing genocide. Between 1897 and 1922 the Ottoman Empire under Islamic rule killed some 3.5 million Christians in Asia Minor. Between 1904 and 1915 1.3 million people were slaughtered in Armenia alone. Hitler claimed it was his model for the Holocaust.

Actually it was the amerikan use of "reservations" (pow camps according to defense department documents.) for the native americans that hitler commented on so favorably.[/quote]

Actually it was both, but why quibble. People contest the "Armenian Quote", but it appears in transcripts of a speech by Hitler that was used as evidence in the Nuremburg Trials. It also appears in at least one book commissioned by the British government (Documents on British Foreign Policy, 1919–1939). Since you don't apparently know how to do your own research, I'll make this easy for you. The quote you're referring to is attributed to Mein Kampf. I don't remember it, but I haven't read it in over 30 years. However, I'm willing to accept that it is there just to move this along.

How clever of you to accept the truth as I posted it. You are beginning to learn.


I have no doubt that if you add up the varied and sundry genocides, honor killings, war casualties, and terror victims of the world wide Islamic Regimes between 1900 and 1999, the total will be considerably more than 35 million. 3000 people here.... 500k there... a cool million over there... these things add up over the course of a century.

If you could prove such an assanine thing you would have posted it.You cant so you did not. Just more of your typical mindless bullshit.

Okay dumbass.... what do you think the words "I have no doubt" might suggest. Actual thinking people would understand that whatever statement follows is a belief or an opinion.

If you could read, that is what I said. You have posted an ignorant unsubstantiated opinion.


Perhaps cultivating a working knowledge of conversational English should be more of a priority for you than trying in vain to sound like you have more than a room temperature I.Q.

It has less to do with iq than it has to do with historical fact.


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