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Should Terrorism Be Censored?


Yes. We don't need to see that.
  12% (3)
No, we have every right to be fully aware of these things.
  44% (11)
It can't possibly matter either way, can it?
  4% (1)
Yes, deny terrorists their fame.
  40% (10)


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Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 1:10:53 PM   
Sanity


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Looks as though the decision has been made for us with this second beheading already:

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Tech insiders: Firms halted spread of grisly video

PARIS (AP) — Tech companies drafted plans to scrub the web after a grisly video showing the beheading of an American journalist by Islamic State militants - and implemented them this week after a second killing, a Silicon Valley insider said Wednesday.

Video showing the death of James Foley last month ricocheted through social networks in what many feared was a propaganda coup for the extremists. The tech official said a YouTube video on Tuesday showing another beheading - of American journalist Steven Sotloff - was deleted, slowing the spread of posts linking to it. According to terms of service for many social media companies, the posting of threats and gratuitously violent content is cause for suspension.

The official, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because companies are grappling with increasing pressure to impose more censorship on the web, would not say whether the developments came at the request of governments or ordinary users.

http://news.yahoo.com/tech-insider-firms-halting-spread-165917819.html


Personally, I believe that we should be as informed as possible, and I do not believe that ISIS gains from the notoriety nearly as much as they lose.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 1:52:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wasn't censorship what made Rotherham so bad and go on for so long?

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 1:58:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Whether it's a video of a beheading or the latest naked selfies of some starlet stolen from her phone there is a growing demand for the capability to scrub such material from the public net and to some extent it is succeeding.

However anyone with a little know how can find all that stuff. If you really really need to see it do some research on the deep web.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 2:05:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Wasn't censorship what made Rotherham so bad and go on for so long?


Good point. I can appreciate how such censorship, no matter how well intentioned, could potentially lead to some very dark places.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 2:10:13 PM   
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Whether it's a video of a beheading or the latest naked selfies of some starlet stolen from her phone there is a growing demand for the capability to scrub such material from the public net and to some extent it is succeeding.

However anyone with a little know how can find all that stuff. If you really really need to see it do some research on the deep web.


But, should they try to hide it.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 2:43:03 PM   
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Wasn't censorship what made Rotherham so bad and go on for so long?

Not censorship, but fear of racist riots against the police and social services and anyone else involved - it was a cover-up.
A very different animal.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 2:43:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		The fact that it was done is enough for me... I do not see any benefit in seeing a head cut off.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 3:10:01 PM   
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The fact that it was done is enough for me... I do not see any benefit in seeing a head cut off.

Butch

To many people require proof that ISIS is not "just a jv Al Qaeda"

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 3:57:52 PM   
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Wasn't censorship what made Rotherham so bad and go on for so long?


No it wasnt, grow the fuck up and read the report.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 4:01:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Do you really need to see a beheading to know what it is ? At least censoring it stops the sick fucks from using it as a recruiting tool.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 4:17:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Looks as though the decision has been made for us with this second beheading already:

quote:

Tech insiders: Firms halted spread of grisly video

PARIS (AP) — Tech companies drafted plans to scrub the web after a grisly video showing the beheading of an American journalist by Islamic State militants - and implemented them this week after a second killing, a Silicon Valley insider said Wednesday.

Video showing the death of James Foley last month ricocheted through social networks in what many feared was a propaganda coup for the extremists. The tech official said a YouTube video on Tuesday showing another beheading - of American journalist Steven Sotloff - was deleted, slowing the spread of posts linking to it. According to terms of service for many social media companies, the posting of threats and gratuitously violent content is cause for suspension.

The official, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because companies are grappling with increasing pressure to impose more censorship on the web, would not say whether the developments came at the request of governments or ordinary users.

http://news.yahoo.com/tech-insider-firms-halting-spread-165917819.html


Personally, I believe that we should be as informed as possible, and I do not believe that ISIS gains from the notoriety nearly as much as they lose.

The family of the victim have a right to keep that private.. imo, its no different from the near decapitation of a young girl in the US (car accident) where someone in the police took pics of the accident scene and put them up on the web.. they got sued by the family & had to pay.. (I posted about that incident once before and something I missed on here happened, some idjiot found the photos & posted the link or something along those lines).. What tech company wants to take that financial risk? not to mention its just bad PR and extremely bad taste to allow that..

I am in the "I don't need to see it to know what happened" group.. I would not watch it anyway as I have respect for the family and the victim and I don't want to re-victimize them by watching such a horrific thing..

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 4:39:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee

Wasn't censorship what made Rotherham so bad and go on for so long?


No it wasnt, grow the fuck up and read the report.




"You must never refer to that again" http://twitchy.com/2014/09/01/rotherham-abuse-whistleblower-reportedly-booked-on-diversity-course-after-raising-concerns/

I forget that you have your own special meanings for words.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 4:41:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Wasn't censorship what made Rotherham so bad and go on for so long?


No it wasnt, grow the fuck up and read the report.




"You must never refer to that again" http://twitchy.com/2014/09/01/rotherham-abuse-whistleblower-reportedly-booked-on-diversity-course-after-raising-concerns/

I forget that you have your own special meanings for words.


You are confusing censorship with cover up. An easy mistake but I am happy to put you right.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 4:44:40 PM   
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So much for Muslims not speaking out.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 5:50:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can't imagine why anyone would want to watch it let alone link to it.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 5:54:40 PM   
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I can't imagine why anyone would want to watch it let alone link to it.


Let me ask in another way. Do you think its a little bit scary that these giant tech corporations have the ability and the desire to shield our eyes from certain realities, as if we are little children?







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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 6:13:20 PM   
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I can't imagine why anyone would want to watch it let alone link to it.

I wouldn't link to it either. But it should be my decision.

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 6:42:29 PM   
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Companies are deciding what content they choose to post on their own media outlets.

Isn't this an example of free enterprise?

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 6:43:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		"The family of the victim have a right to keep that private"

That is a good point, but there is an easier way to censor things without anyone taking sides. If you don't want to know about something, put your head in the sand.. Okay, not literally, but if you aren't interested in which celebutantes are the latest to have nude selfies hacked, then don't watch Entertainment Tonight [or similar media] If you're not interested in which athletes are being arrested for whatever, don't read sports articles. Etc. If you are interested in what is happening in the Middle East, then go ahead, read about it. Just be careful not to talk openly about what you have read, unless you know the person you're talking with shares an interest

Ehh.. I think "free enterprise" doesn't exist the way it was meant to.. I mean look at restaurants and bars. They can get in trouble if they cook with trans fats, or serve hard liquor after a certain time, etc.. .. It's one thing to regulate restaurants so they are clean, but if people want to eat something like one of those "heart attack" burgers, then a person should be allowed to, while being informed of the risks.. .. In New York, there is the whole issue with selling soda!..

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RE: Should Terrorism Be Censored? - 9/3/2014 6:55:46 PM   
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Ehh.. I think "free enterprise" doesn't exist the way it was meant to.. I mean look at restaurants and bars. They can get in trouble if they cook with trans fats, or serve hard liquor after a certain time, etc.. .. It's one thing to regulate restaurants so they are clean, but if people want to eat something like one of those "heart attack" burgers, then a person should be allowed to, while being informed of the risks.. .. In New York, there is the whole issue with selling soda!..

You've been reading too many lunatics. There is no ban on trans fats or soda.

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