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Ya know, this "we are all the same" stuff really gets to me.

Why would I treat a black person differently? Well, when I was working on medical imaging equipment and taking an x-ray of a black person (or Native American) I had to turn the kV up by 5 in order to get a good x-ray. Their bones are denser.

This is a generalization. It may be true for 60% of the population but we both know it isn't uniformly true. Did you really assume the frail elderly black woman had denser than average bones?

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I think the underlying point is this: Blacks put themselves where they are.

Stormfront has spoken!

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There are always people who don't perform who try to hold others back. Every smart kid feels pressure to not "show up" his peers.

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Blacks put themselves where they are.

Boom, we have a winner!

Whitey has spoken

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Ya know, this "we are all the same" stuff really gets to me.

Why would I treat a black person differently? Well, when I was working on medical imaging equipment and taking an x-ray of a black person (or Native American) I had to turn the kV up by 5 in order to get a good x-ray. Their bones are denser.

This is a generalization. It may be true for 60% of the population but we both know it isn't uniformly true. Did you really assume the frail elderly black woman had denser than average bones?

Frail elderly black women are not typically x-ray techs (I never met one that could be described as such) and so after installing or fixing a machine, we were not testing it on them.

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There are always people who don't perform who try to hold others back. Every smart kid feels pressure to not "show up" his peers.

Actually, I've never run into "people" who try and do this assuming they could, and they cannot. But with young blacks in America this is a part of their culture. The majority act this way. The result is they get what they want, failure.

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I think the underlying point is that you are the worst kind of bigot.

Why? Why does stating facts make me a bigot? Everything I said was the truth which makes me the realist rather than a bigot. Only when we deal with things as they are rather than how we wish to see them can we correct any situation. Which is why blacks still hold themselves back while blaming others or the educations system or the justice system or whatever. So, regardless of how politically incorrect I might be this is the truth of things.

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Have none of you heard of the practice called "being black"? It is the intentional refusal to learn or do well in school by otherwise intelligent black children.

It's funny, I volunteer in Chicago schools and deal with gifted black kids every week and I've never yet seen this. They get the same flack I got as a white kid growing up smarter than my peers. What I do see is schools dying without maintenance or new materials. Teachers buying basic classroom materials because they aren't provided by the school administration. Kids having to share 10+ year old textbooks that are falling apart because the school board hasn't approved a new version and the old one is no longer made.

It's funny indeed. Perhaps you should volunteer to work with regular black kids, I dunno, kinda makes sense to me since you have not heard of this term, this reality, while working with kids in Chicago. That is the funny thing.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/24/opinion/wright-black-acting-white/index.html

I think the underlying point is this: Blacks put themselves where they are. I work with blacks who are valuable technical staff because although they grew up in poor areas, Mississippi and Chicago, they decided to ignore those pressures by their own culture to fail. It's so interesting to listen to them speak with perfect English while working but when they run into a fellow black they switch into another language, a different slang filled language. Fortunately for us they blamed no one for where blacks are in the U.S. and moved forward and up themselves. So, don't blame schools or the government or the right wingers but in stead place the responsibility where it correctly is, with the individual and the choices they make as it always is the case in life.

Pardon the term if it offends anyone, but three of my nephews(-in-law) who were raised inside the metro-D.C. Beltway are "wiggers" who speak in Ebonics around their (African-American) friends, then shift over to *passable* English dialectic vernacular around their family. Needless to say, when in Ebonics mode, I couldn't understand 80% of what they were saying. Christmas gift-giving was easy. Wu Tang Clan CDs (not a Chinese band, for those not in the know). Now, let me pose this question: If one of them were to get into an altercation with an African-American, would this still be considered a hate crime?

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Perhaps that is because you are one of the ones putting the pressure one.

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I think the underlying point is that you are the worst kind of bigot.

Why? Why does stating facts make me a bigot? Everything I said was the truth which makes me the realist rather than a bigot. Only when we deal with things as they are rather than how we wish to see them can we correct any situation. Which is why blacks still hold themselves back while blaming others or the educations system or the justice system or whatever. So, regardless of how politically incorrect I might be this is the truth of things.

Because what you claim as facts aren't. You are simply spewing hate.

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Perhaps that is because you are one of the ones putting the pressure one.

What would make you say that?

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I think the underlying point is that you are the worst kind of bigot.

Why? Why does stating facts make me a bigot? Everything I said was the truth which makes me the realist rather than a bigot. Only when we deal with things as they are rather than how we wish to see them can we correct any situation. Which is why blacks still hold themselves back while blaming others or the educations system or the justice system or whatever. So, regardless of how politically incorrect I might be this is the truth of things.

Because what you claim as facts aren't. You are simply spewing hate.

This is a forum so you don't get to weasel out by simply saying something is false and somebody is full of hate or a racist. What, you think this is MSNBC or something? I supported my statements. You have no clue about American blacks. For example, did you know young black males commit seventy percent of the crime in America? Small wonder they are stopped more than other races. Let's really define the black in context so you actually will know about this population.

Blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008.
The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites.
In the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery.

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I have a very high IQ... By the numbers I test at around a 145 IQ and my brothers all test in the 120's.

I feel for your brothers with their dim 120 IQs. Did you tell them they were dim?

K.

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Don't you realise that you are addressing a bona fide member of the i-n-t-e-l-l-i-g-e-n-t-s-i-a? At least that is what he tells us*, and he wouldn't have any reason to blow his own t-r-u-m-p-e-t would he?

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The fact is there is overwhelming evidence the Earth is warming and no other cause exists but human activity. You can search all the reputable science journals till you're blue in the face but you're not going to find any research that is supportive of negative position. The facts are no longer subtle. Glaciers have receded drastically, plants and animals have moved pole ward, climate patterns are shifting, the seas are rising due to them being warmer and the ice caps are melting. If that isn't enough to convince people I really don't know what it will take.

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I think she was asking for a link proving your claim that "Unfortunately, the number of conservatives that suffer from mental/emotional issues far exceeds the liberal population by 17:1. " and I have to admit I would love to see the study also.

I believe there was such a study. And that it was food for political theater for a couple of days. The study was trying to link the idea that conservative and libertarian viewpoints tend to suffer more a likelihood to different forms of mental/emotional problems. An has been observed, any time science has entered into the political world, there is huge debate and the facts are mushed to nothing by those that wish to undermine it.

But thanks to science, we can observe.

Why did scientists (hard and soft sciences) vote for President Obama in the 90% range in both elections? Why those lacking a high school degree voted for McCain and Romney? We could say anything we want in a political forum. But for a study, it would have to be researched, analyzed, and a conclusion based on evidence made. An its been observed that people told they have a harsh mental/emotional issue is very similar to those told they have weeks or months to live when they feel completely healthy.

Do conservatives and libertarians suffer from one or more possible mental/emotional issues? Yes. So do liberals and moderates. What percentage is the difficult factor. And what percentage of each mental/emotional issue even further difficult.

Gun nuts are paranoid of the unknown. Those supporting Voter Photo ID laws say voter fraud is out of control when its not. An libertarians? I've understood them in the following way: They are against what they are for, and for what they are against. It makes no rational sense to anyone but them. That there are people that REALLY do believe President Obama is not a US Citizen given the evidence and facts know, and not just saying it for political theater. An who is more pessimistic about our nation and the future of this nation? Conservatives? Liberals? Libertarians? Moderates?

We have less studies on "How does one's political view point affect/effect their mental and emotional health' than we have studies on 'actual firearm use in real life situations'. Its like comparing 'actual firearm use in real life situations' to firearm studies based solely on statistics. To put another way, like comparing a Boeing 747 to a bubble bee on size of cargo carried.

If you thought yourself free of any and all mental/emotional problems, could you handle the idea that your political viewpoints might be causing said mental/emotional problems to be created? And would you be willing to accept therapy? For some Americans, they would resist that their political views might be causing their mental/emotional problems. Or that those problems are amplified due to their political views. Trying to treat such a condition fairly, honestly, without conditioning the person out the good political viewpoints; I would imagine is extremely difficult.

I suspect the reason scientists voted that way is a combination of factors:

1) Many scientists are too involved in science to pay too much attention to economics, jobs (they have one) or even defense.
2) Therefore, scientists tend to focus on associations with Republicans, valid or not, such as Creationism
3) They see "Republicans = Creationism" and that alone is enough to turn their vote.
4) Most of them were educated at heavily left universities.

I have no proof of that, but I suspect that explains a lot (certainly not all).

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I think the underlying point is that you are the worst kind of bigot.

Why? Why does stating facts make me a bigot? Everything I said was the truth which makes me the realist rather than a bigot. Only when we deal with things as they are rather than how we wish to see them can we correct any situation. Which is why blacks still hold themselves back while blaming others or the educations system or the justice system or whatever. So, regardless of how politically incorrect I might be this is the truth of things.

Because what you claim as facts aren't. You are simply spewing hate.

This is a forum so you don't get to weasel out by simply saying something is false and somebody is full of hate or a racist. What, you think this is MSNBC or something? I supported my statements. You have no clue about American blacks. For example, did you know young black males commit seventy percent of the crime in America? Small wonder they are stopped more than other races. Let's really define the black in context so you actually will know about this population.

Blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008.
The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites.
In the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery.

Many black youth live in dense poor inner cities which are high crime areas world wide so of course they are involved in a lot of crime in the US. That is the same reason French racists can point to young Muslim men as being a problem in France. It isn't the race of the kids growing up in poverty but kids growing up in urban poverty.