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ORIGINAL: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/23/common-core-bill-sparks-creationism-debate-in-ohio/14507351/
"The standards in science shall be based in core existing disciplines of biology, chemistry, and physics; incorporate grade-level mathematics and be referenced to the mathematics standards; focus on academic and scientific knowledge rather than scientific processes; and prohibit political or religious interpretation of scientific facts in favor of another."

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ORIGINAL: LetstalkboutRAP3
http://reason.com/archives/2013/05/14/the-myth-of-the-scientific-liberal

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Yes, conservatives are like liberals in having strange and weird ideas on how best to run government and society. Unfortunately, the number of conservatives that suffer from mental/emotional issues far exceeds the liberal population by 17:1. There really are a couple of crazy liberals; but its nothing compared to the throngs of conservatives that are not operating with a brain or exist in our reality.

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: joether
Yes, conservatives are like liberals in having strange and weird ideas on how best to run government and society. Unfortunately, the number of conservatives that suffer from mental/emotional issues far exceeds the liberal population by 17:1. There really are a couple of crazy liberals; but its nothing compared to the throngs of conservatives that are not operating with a brain or exist in our reality.

Citation please. Because in the last year where I have gotten tons of checks from doctors and such about my mental and emotional health, not ONCE was I asked questions about my politics.

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ORIGINAL: LetstalkboutRAP3

http://reason.com/archives/2013/05/14/the-myth-of-the-scientific-liberal

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: joether
Yes, conservatives are like liberals in having strange and weird ideas on how best to run government and society. Unfortunately, the number of conservatives that suffer from mental/emotional issues far exceeds the liberal population by 17:1. There really are a couple of crazy liberals; but its nothing compared to the throngs of conservatives that are not operating with a brain or exist in our reality.

Citation please. Because in the last year where I have gotten tons of checks from doctors and such about my mental and emotional health, not ONCE was I asked questions about my politics.

For someone that doesn't understand mental and emotional health, I'm not really surprised by your view. Did those doctors ask you directly about your political viewpoints? And then observe, over a decent period of time (say 4-6 weeks, of 1 day visits), how you act and react to events in the political sphere? No....because they are professional. If you thought you had a problem, you would visit a mental/emotion health professional (a general practice medical doctor can help if none exist in your area), whom would try to determine if what your saying and viewing is indeed just 'political thought' verse "the squirrels...the squirrels control the White House! They look at me from the kitchen window.....planning....plotting....". There is no way even a skilled therapist could determine in a dozen questions if you had a mental and/or emotional health problem. Unless they had some evidence to say something was wrong before hand.

Its estimated by many sources that the number of individuals suffering form Depression, for example, is twice the actual number. And that those not obtaining treatment are not aware of how the illness is effecting their daily lives. Could the illness effect their political views? And the answer is 'yes'; more of the negative than positive. How would a paranoid-schizophrenia person behave whom held conservative political views and own firearms (for a specific example), to something the President does, and to which the conservative media blows out of proportion (they LOVE doing that)? The one that has been diagnosis properly, with medication (if directed), and therapy would most likely not fly off into a rage. Can we say the same of the undiagnosed individual? An society will have to deal with the undiagnosed individual....after....they fly into a rage.

Here is something that could aid you in understanding.

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ORIGINAL: joether


When I think "Leading States in Education", I don't think 'Georgia and Oklahoma'. Georgia is 17 and Oklahoma is 40 for High School Rankings With schools in general, Georgia is 32 and Oklahoma is 36 If this guy was making a REAL argument, give the challenge to states that seem to have their acts together....like the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: joether
Yes, conservatives are like liberals in having strange and weird ideas on how best to run government and society. Unfortunately, the number of conservatives that suffer from mental/emotional issues far exceeds the liberal population by 17:1. There really are a couple of crazy liberals; but its nothing compared to the throngs of conservatives that are not operating with a brain or exist in our reality.

Citation please. Because in the last year where I have gotten tons of checks from doctors and such about my mental and emotional health, not ONCE was I asked questions about my politics.

For someone that doesn't understand mental and emotional health, I'm not really surprised by your view. Did those doctors ask you directly about your political viewpoints? And then observe, over a decent period of time (say 4-6 weeks, of 1 day visits), how you act and react to events in the political sphere? No....because they are professional. If you thought you had a problem, you would visit a mental/emotion health professional (a general practice medical doctor can help if none exist in your area), whom would try to determine if what your saying and viewing is indeed just 'political thought' verse "the squirrels...the squirrels control the White House! They look at me from the kitchen window.....planning....plotting....". There is no way even a skilled therapist could determine in a dozen questions if you had a mental and/or emotional health problem. Unless they had some evidence to say something was wrong before hand.

Its estimated by many sources that the number of individuals suffering form Depression, for example, is twice the actual number. And that those not obtaining treatment are not aware of how the illness is effecting their daily lives. Could the illness effect their political views? And the answer is 'yes'; more of the negative than positive. How would a paranoid-schizophrenia person behave whom held conservative political views and own firearms (for a specific example), to something the President does, and to which the conservative media blows out of proportion (they LOVE doing that)? The one that has been diagnosis properly, with medication (if directed), and therapy would most likely not fly off into a rage. Can we say the same of the undiagnosed individual? An society will have to deal with the undiagnosed individual....after....they fly into a rage.

Here is something that could aid you in understanding.

Silly me. I thought that grief was a mental, emotional, and physical problem. Thank you for letting this widow know that grief is NOT a problem. All those books about it and the special counselors and classes MUST be a conservative conspiracy to make us just think that the death of a spouse has other complications. It is all just imaginary.

You are such a fucking putz to even consider suggesting such a thing. You are a troglodyte. And to suggest that it might be the news I watch or read that causes the grief reactions? You are an ass.

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: joether
Yes, conservatives are like liberals in having strange and weird ideas on how best to run government and society. Unfortunately, the number of conservatives that suffer from mental/emotional issues far exceeds the liberal population by 17:1. There really are a couple of crazy liberals; but its nothing compared to the throngs of conservatives that are not operating with a brain or exist in our reality.

Citation please. Because in the last year where I have gotten tons of checks from doctors and such about my mental and emotional health, not ONCE was I asked questions about my politics.

For someone that doesn't understand mental and emotional health, I'm not really surprised by your view. Did those doctors ask you directly about your political viewpoints? And then observe, over a decent period of time (say 4-6 weeks, of 1 day visits), how you act and react to events in the political sphere? No....because they are professional. If you thought you had a problem, you would visit a mental/emotion health professional (a general practice medical doctor can help if none exist in your area), whom would try to determine if what your saying and viewing is indeed just 'political thought' verse "the squirrels...the squirrels control the White House! They look at me from the kitchen window.....planning....plotting....". There is no way even a skilled therapist could determine in a dozen questions if you had a mental and/or emotional health problem. Unless they had some evidence to say something was wrong before hand.

Its estimated by many sources that the number of individuals suffering form Depression, for example, is twice the actual number. And that those not obtaining treatment are not aware of how the illness is effecting their daily lives. Could the illness effect their political views? And the answer is 'yes'; more of the negative than positive. How would a paranoid-schizophrenia person behave whom held conservative political views and own firearms (for a specific example), to something the President does, and to which the conservative media blows out of proportion (they LOVE doing that)? The one that has been diagnosis properly, with medication (if directed), and therapy would most likely not fly off into a rage. Can we say the same of the undiagnosed individual? An society will have to deal with the undiagnosed individual....after....they fly into a rage.

Here is something that could aid you in understanding.

Silly me. I thought that grief was a mental, emotional, and physical problem. Thank you for letting this widow know that grief is NOT a problem. All those books about it and the special counselors and classes MUST be a conservative conspiracy to make us just think that the death of a spouse has other complications. It is all just imaginary.

You are such a fucking putz to even consider suggesting such a thing. You are a troglodyte. And to suggest that it might be the news I watch or read that causes the grief reactions? You are an ass.

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When I think "Leading States in Education", I don't think 'Georgia and Oklahoma'. Georgia is 17 and Oklahoma is 40 for High School Rankings With schools in general, Georgia is 32 and Oklahoma is 36 If this guy was making a REAL argument, give the challenge to states that seem to have their acts together....like the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

But both OK and GA have moved away from the common core standards given from the government and moved to their own level of standards for their individualized states.

In fact its been an annoyance this past year to revamp our product to each states individualized standards as more and more states realize common core has made them not very bright.

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ORIGINAL: LetstalkboutRAP3

http://reason.com/archives/2013/05/14/the-myth-of-the-scientific-liberal

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ORIGINAL: joether
When I think "Leading States in Education", I don't think 'Georgia and Oklahoma'. Georgia is 17 and Oklahoma is 40 for High School Rankings With schools in general, Georgia is 32 and Oklahoma is 36 If this guy was making a REAL argument, give the challenge to states that seem to have their acts together....like the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

But both OK and GA have moved away from the common core standards given from the government and moved to their own level of standards for their individualized states.

In fact its been an annoyance this past year to revamp our product to each states individualized standards as more and more states realize common core has made them not very bright.

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Citation please. Because in the last year where I have gotten tons of checks from doctors and such about my mental and emotional health, not ONCE was I asked questions about my politics.

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ORIGINAL: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/calling-truce-political-wars/
The Fear Factor

Psychologists have found that conservatives are fundamentally more anxious than liberals, which may be why they typically desire stability, structure and clear answers even to complicated questions. “Conservatism, apparently, helps to protect people against some of the natural difficulties of living,” says social psychologist Paul Nail of the University of Central Arkansas. “The fact is we don't live in a completely safe world. Things can and do go wrong. But if I can impose this order on it by my worldview, I can keep my anxiety to a manageable level.”

Anxiety is an emotion that waxes and wanes in all of us, and as it swings up or down our political views can shift in its wake. When people feel safe and secure, they become more liberal; when they feel threatened, they become more conservative. Research conducted by Nail and his colleague in the weeks after September 11, 2001, showed that people of all political persuasions became more conservative in the wake of the terrorist attacks. Meanwhile, in an upcoming study, a team led by Yale University psychologist Jaime Napier found that asking Republicans to imagine that they possessed superpowers and were impermeable to injury made them more liberal.

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ORIGINAL: joether
When I think "Leading States in Education", I don't think 'Georgia and Oklahoma'. Georgia is 17 and Oklahoma is 40 for High School Rankings With schools in general, Georgia is 32 and Oklahoma is 36 If this guy was making a REAL argument, give the challenge to states that seem to have their acts together....like the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

But both OK and GA have moved away from the common core standards given from the government and moved to their own level of standards for their individualized states.

In fact its been an annoyance this past year to revamp our product to each states individualized standards as more and more states realize common core has made them not very bright.

I'm not as informed on Common Core as I should be. But I do understand the value in hiring good teachers and support professionals that help improve the educational standards. That unfortunately, takes tax dollars to implement. Lots of tax dollars. Certain towns in my state of Massachusetts for example do very well with education. The observation is the commitment to not just say 'education is important' but to back it up with tax dollars. As a result, drop out rates are lower, those obtaining higher proficiency on exams compared to other towns/states, and better social and educational skills learned. As a result the commonwealth does very well on education standards. Is there room for improvement? Always!

The more important question that might be asked is: Whose standards do we use to determine if children in one age group, grade and/or location are on par with children from other locations. Not just in the state and country but at large. If either or both states were within the top five states; then it would be curious to know what those stares are doing. When they are in the 30-40 range of states, its telling me their educational direction still needs much more work and funding to make it stand out.

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When I think "Leading States in Education", I don't think 'Georgia and Oklahoma'. Georgia is 17 and Oklahoma is 40 for High School Rankings With schools in general, Georgia is 32 and Oklahoma is 36 If this guy was making a REAL argument, give the challenge to states that seem to have their acts together....like the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

But both OK and GA have moved away from the common core standards given from the government and moved to their own level of standards for their individualized states.

In fact its been an annoyance this past year to revamp our product to each states individualized standards as more and more states realize common core has made them not very bright.

Common core is not a government product. And the math standards, at least, are excellent.

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Examples of CC Standards

CCSS.Math.Content.5.NBT.A.2
Explain patterns in the number of zeros of the product when multiplying a number by powers of 10, and explain patterns in the placement of the decimal point when a decimal is multiplied or divided by a power of 10. Use whole-number exponents to denote powers of 10.

CCSS.Math.Content.8.G.A.4
Understand that a two-dimensional figure is similar to another if the second can be obtained from the first by a sequence of rotations, reflections, translations, and dilations; given two similar two-dimensional figures, describe a sequence that exhibits the similarity between them.

CCSS.Math.Content.8.G.A.5
Use informal arguments to establish facts about the angle sum and exterior angle of triangles, about the angles created when parallel lines are cut by a transversal, and the angle-angle criterion for similarity of triangles.

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ORIGINAL: joether
Yes, conservatives are like liberals in having strange and weird ideas on how best to run government and society. Unfortunately, the number of conservatives that suffer from mental/emotional issues far exceeds the liberal population by 17:1. There really are a couple of crazy liberals; but its nothing compared to the throngs of conservatives that are not operating with a brain or exist in our reality.

Citation please. Because in the last year where I have gotten tons of checks from doctors and such about my mental and emotional health, not ONCE was I asked questions about my politics.

For someone that doesn't understand mental and emotional health, I'm not really surprised by your view. Did those doctors ask you directly about your political viewpoints? And then observe, over a decent period of time (say 4-6 weeks, of 1 day visits), how you act and react to events in the political sphere? No....because they are professional. If you thought you had a problem, you would visit a mental/emotion health professional (a general practice medical doctor can help if none exist in your area), whom would try to determine if what your saying and viewing is indeed just 'political thought' verse "the squirrels...the squirrels control the White House! They look at me from the kitchen window.....planning....plotting....". There is no way even a skilled therapist could determine in a dozen questions if you had a mental and/or emotional health problem. Unless they had some evidence to say something was wrong before hand.

Its estimated by many sources that the number of individuals suffering form Depression, for example, is twice the actual number. And that those not obtaining treatment are not aware of how the illness is effecting their daily lives. Could the illness effect their political views? And the answer is 'yes'; more of the negative than positive. How would a paranoid-schizophrenia person behave whom held conservative political views and own firearms (for a specific example), to something the President does, and to which the conservative media blows out of proportion (they LOVE doing that)? The one that has been diagnosis properly, with medication (if directed), and therapy would most likely not fly off into a rage. Can we say the same of the undiagnosed individual? An society will have to deal with the undiagnosed individual....after....they fly into a rage.

Here is something that could aid you in understanding.

Silly me. I thought that grief was a mental, emotional, and physical problem. Thank you for letting this widow know that grief is NOT a problem. All those books about it and the special counselors and classes MUST be a conservative conspiracy to make us just think that the death of a spouse has other complications. It is all just imaginary.

You are such a fucking putz to even consider suggesting such a thing. You are a troglodyte. And to suggest that it might be the news I watch or read that causes the grief reactions? You are an ass.

How am I suppose to know your mental, emotional, and physical medical background?

"All those books about it and the special counselors and classes..."

An here you are admitting exactly what I'm taking about. That you (directly) or others (indirectly) got some help to handle a problem that was not short term. Depression is not a short term illness. An there are several forms of Depression. To find what yours might be, takes a skilled individual a few weeks if not months to understand the depth of the problem(s). And that treatment is not as easy as 'take one pill a day', but more involved.

Those with Depression are also more likely to lash out violently. Either to themselves or others.

For what its worth, Aylee.....I am sorry for your lost.