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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 9/17/2014 4:07:12 AM   
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well as you can tell i have a few bits of ink- the moomin, some script on my arm (a proverb) and and a very small stylised phoenix (a nod to my given name)... all of which have meanings for me, contemplating some form of mariners cross considering i think my current job may well be a lifelong career and is tied to the sea...
No issues with women having tattoos but i have a huuuuge issue with the "tramp stamp" kinda stuff on lower back of those strange tribal bands and symbols (probably followed by idiots who go something chineese or japanese tattooed and dont know its gibberish or in some cases funny or even offensive, mum can read it and has pointed out some gems to me!), these are usually picked off the wall of the studio and totally meaningless to the person. For me they have a " i catalogue order my uniqueness" vibe. People who want ink really should get something custom, suited to the space and shape of their body by a skilled artist, it costs more, but there is no comparison between them!
As for tats and work, i think it depends on whats tasteful, most employers and clients i have encountered dont have an issue with them but i can really understand people taking aversion to someone with blatant unconcealed swear words, KKK/gang/nazi/racial symbols and so on so in that aspect i think its more a case of being reasonably tasteful with what you have

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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 9/17/2014 4:17:21 AM   
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In terms of questioning the professionalism of tattoos or if tattooed people can have professional jobs, I think they absolutely can. I remember a specific time when I met a woman in her mid 40s with full sleeves on both arms. She pulled into a high end shop in a trendy neighborhood in LA in a very pricy BMW with a little girl, who we found out later was her daughter. My friend completed her tattoos and she said, "When I turned 40 all of my friends were getting Botox and plastic surgery. I got tattooed." She ended up being the VP of a very high end company in LA. I also saw a doctor at my local hospital with tattoos on his arms. So I think that anyone can have tattoos and it doesn't make them any less professional or intelligent. I love mine and that's all that matters.


It depends. What about visible ink? A good tattoo artist will warn their clients about the possible societal repercussions of having ink on the hands, the neck or the face. I know some artists who absolutely refuse to ink the hands and face.

I have a friend who got drunk whilst on holiday in Greece and went to a late night tattooist to have a the side of his neck inked. He now has a very visible black dagger up his neck which can’t be covered by a shirt. On coming back to the UK he was immediately sacked from his job. He hadn’t read the fine print of his contract which clearly said, “no visible tattoos.” He has now been for over 50 interviews in two years and blames the tattoo for not getting employment. He’s also been pulled over by the police a couple of times and searched for drugs, something that never happened to him before the tat. He’s presently trying to save (though its hard when he’s unemployed) to have it removed.

There are too many tattoo artists that don’t give a single shit how the work they put on your will effect your life.


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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 9/17/2014 6:23:45 AM   
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Do you have tattoo removal programs that operate as non-profit social service programs in the UK, Maria? Here in the US, some areas have tat removal programs that help people with getting tats removed that hinder employment or were part of an old life (gangs, prison, an abusive ex who's name is tattooed on them, etc) either for free or for greatly reduced cost. If you over in the UK have anything like that, maybe your friend could see if they could help him?

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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 9/17/2014 8:19:10 AM   
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Do you have tattoo removal programs that operate as non-profit social service programs in the UK, Maria? Here in the US, some areas have tat removal programs that help people with getting tats removed that hinder employment or were part of an old life (gangs, prison, an abusive ex who's name is tattooed on them, etc) either for free or for greatly reduced cost. If you over in the UK have anything like that, maybe your friend could see if they could help him?


They will do extreme cases but because cosmetic surgery doesn't come under the NHS, Im afraid its a 'private' thing over here. If they were classed as an extreme case, lets say they were suffering serious mental health issues because of that tattoo, they would still be expected to sit on a lengthy waiting list.

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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 9/17/2014 8:29:40 AM   
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Ah ok, I see. Wasn't sure how it worked over there. Here it is cosmetic as well and most have to pay out of pocket for removal, but some non-profit agencies with medical services have opened that avenue up to folks that ordinarily could not even hope to afford the procedure. But for the most part, sounds like the UK and US see it the same way

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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 9/17/2014 8:57:36 AM   
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My tattoo artists offers "sponsorship" of tattoo removal for just that purpose. She will post a need, and her clients can chose to donate a bit of money towards the process. She's done it several times. It's actually quite touching to hear the stories.

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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 9/17/2014 8:59:24 AM   
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That is freakin' awesome. I love hearing that everyday people will chip in to help someone who could use the kindness

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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 9/17/2014 12:37:18 PM   
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Help for removal is nice but i do think care is needed there, removing a tattoo is a painful and fairly high risk process which can go VERY wrong. I have little sympathy for people who get drunk on holiday and end up with a mess and think they should be responsible, i know people might feel otherwise

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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 9/17/2014 2:24:38 PM   
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@Blonderfluff

Sounds like you have an A1 tattoo artist. Good on her.

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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 9/17/2014 2:48:07 PM   
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Help for removal is nice but i do think care is needed there, removing a tattoo is a painful and fairly high risk process which can go VERY wrong. I have little sympathy for people who get drunk on holiday and end up with a mess and think they should be responsible, i know people might feel otherwise



And so is a tattoo on the face, neck and hands. Because its very difficult, even for very experienced tattoo artists, to get the ink in the right place on the thin skin of the face, neck and hands (between the dermis and epidermis) its much more likely to form scar tissue. When scar tissue forms on a tattoo it means the ink is no longer fluid under the skin and this makes it very difficult to remove.

Talking of fluid ink, I know a guy who had a tattoo on his right arm. The tattoo faded very quickly so he went back to the artist and had it re-filled. Again the ink faded and in the mean time he got a large lump under his left armpit. The doctor rushed him to the appropriate medical professional who warned him it was likely a lymphoma and that he needed to do an immediate biopsy. As the lump was punctured, a dark blue pustule started to seep out. The ink had been absorbed under the skin and moved around until it became trapped in a lymph gland.

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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 9/17/2014 5:24:47 PM   
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Help for removal is nice but i do think care is needed there, removing a tattoo is a painful and fairly high risk process which can go VERY wrong. I have little sympathy for people who get drunk on holiday and end up with a mess and think they should be responsible, i know people might feel otherwise


They don't let Average Joe Blow use a laser removal machine FYI. You actually have to have a medical license...MD, DO, NP, PA, or BSN WITH years of nursing experience...to be able to do it in my state. Is it painful? Fuck yes. Is it high risk? About as risky as your average medical procedure.

So you have never ever did something stupid? Ever? I'll be honest in admitting Ive done some seriously dumb things at one point or another in life. Having sympathy isn't a bad thing. People do stupid shit all the time. But if they are just needing someone to give them a chance...to be able to show that they are a good employee or tenant or whatever despite the fact that they made a mistake once...is that really such a bad thing? Isn't it just as easy to help them out as it is to judge them? I probably sound harsh...and I do apologize if it comes across as a bitch. I honestly don't mean to be.

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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 9/17/2014 5:58:10 PM   
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@Blonderfluff

Sounds like you have an A1 tattoo artist. Good on her.

She is really an amazing lady. And cool as shit.
Also. She uses a new method of tattoo removal called Tattoo Vanish. It is injected right into the ink of the tattoo. Something in it binds to the ink, it scabs, and whenever the scab falls off, it takes the ink with it. Some really black or dark tattoos do take 2 or 3 treatments, buts it's hella better than lasers and such. Much cheaper. And even if the results aren't perfect, the most that's left after the first treatment is a smudge that looks like a bruise. I've seen it. It's really remarkable. I'll see if I can find the link, and post it here.

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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 9/17/2014 6:17:29 PM   
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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 9/17/2014 6:20:28 PM   
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4zRe_wvJw8

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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 9/17/2014 6:22:08 PM   
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Here is the link to the Tattoo Vanish website

Tattoo Vanish

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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 9/17/2014 6:25:04 PM   
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Screen captures still RULE! Ya feel me?


I've had this as an ear worm since I left the house after reading that post this afternoon. I actually had my nephew ask me what an "encyclopidia" was. Kids. Sheesh.


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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 9/19/2014 1:11:05 AM   
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In terms of questioning the professionalism of tattoos or if tattooed people can have professional jobs, I think they absolutely can. I remember a specific time when I met a woman in her mid 40s with full sleeves on both arms. She pulled into a high end shop in a trendy neighborhood in LA in a very pricy BMW with a little girl, who we found out later was her daughter. My friend completed her tattoos and she said, "When I turned 40 all of my friends were getting Botox and plastic surgery. I got tattooed." She ended up being the VP of a very high end company in LA. I also saw a doctor at my local hospital with tattoos on his arms. So I think that anyone can have tattoos and it doesn't make them any less professional or intelligent. I love mine and that's all that matters.


It depends. What about visible ink? A good tattoo artist will warn their clients about the possible societal repercussions of having ink on the hands, the neck or the face. I know some artists who absolutely refuse to ink the hands and face.

I have a friend who got drunk whilst on holiday in Greece and went to a late night tattooist to have a the side of his neck inked. He now has a very visible black dagger up his neck which can’t be covered by a shirt. On coming back to the UK he was immediately sacked from his job. He hadn’t read the fine print of his contract which clearly said, “no visible tattoos.” He has now been for over 50 interviews in two years and blames the tattoo for not getting employment. He’s also been pulled over by the police a couple of times and searched for drugs, something that never happened to him before the tat. He’s presently trying to save (though its hard when he’s unemployed) to have it removed.

There are too many tattoo artists that don’t give a single shit how the work they put on your will effect your life.



I live in a very open minded area of LA. Tattoos are not uncommon. A lot of my friends have visible tattoos, neck, hands, etc. For the most part they're all employed. I also hang out with mainly artists and creative people who work in creative fields so it hasn't been an issue. While I was waitressing I'm sure I got turned down for a few jobs in Beverly Hills bc of my tattoos but they were all places I wouldn't of wanted to work at anyways. Personally I don't care if someone's tattooed, pierced, or whatever as long as they get the job done. I knew a handful of guys who work in office settings that are tattooed, but they do computer/tech stuff. I also have a friend who works for a major TV network in an office and has his neck and hands tattooed. It could just be an LA thing though. People are pretty open minded here. What industry is your friend in? I'm shocked it took him over two years to find a tattoo friendly company to work for. Could it be another factor?

When I was in high school and living in a small town on the east coast I had a nose ring. I worked as a hostess at chain restaurant that catered to familes and older folks. My boss made me cover it with a little tint cut up piece of flesh toned band aid every time I worked. It was stupid and it looked stupid. Almost every person who came in and asked me why I had a tint piece of band aid on my nose told me they thought it was stupid. The only person who ever said they agreed with that policy was a woman in her 80s or 90s who came in every day for breakfast. So I'm sure it happens I just think, in the US at least, tattoos are becoming very common. I think more modern companies and younger people are understanding that you can be genius and still have tattoos. There's really no correlation. I mean there are defiantly tattooed idiots. But think how many non-tattooed dumb asses are out there too?

My friend manages a tattoo shop and is an artist. They close at 9pm and you must sign a form staying that you are not drunk or on any mind altering drugs before getting tattooed. I've never been reminded of the social repercussions before getting tattooed but I assume it's because I'm a consenting adult and they assume I've thought it through, as any person should. If I had a design picked out and I went to a shop and the artist said to me, "You know this could hinder you from getting a job. Are you sure you want to do this?" I would find it to be belittling. Like they think I can't make my own decisions. And I'm not sure about Greece but every repubtible tattoo shop I know of closes by 10pm unless the artist is staying late specifically for you. The only ones in my area that stay open really late are touristy shops that have terrible artists.


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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 10/6/2014 6:20:32 PM   
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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 10/6/2014 6:25:26 PM   
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Picture won't upload. Guess CS forums aren't ready for a titty pic.

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RE: The Tattooed Lady - 10/6/2014 7:10:18 PM   
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