ExiledTyrant
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ORIGINAL: DerangedUnit slaves and accept* sorry but i would never be around someone who wanted me weak and they know that going into it. slave means owned, the property of another pure and simple. the rest is what you may or may not want it to mean. I'm still in total agreement with Inigo Montoya. quote:
for me its always been 24/7 non-con. meaning i dont make up rules, going into something i say "a good rule of thumb is dont do anything to me you dont want done to yourself" why? because a man should be able to choose what is right or wrong without a barrier guidelining him and i have faith in my own abilities to defend myself. That reeks of poor choices. quote:
someone that wanted me to listen without thinking... May I draw your attention back to Inigo. quote:
those that tumble with me do so because they know i wont roll over and they will have to work hard to earn my respect. one managed. Do you think there is a /s here with a brain in her head that has? They make good choices and reap the benifits of those choices. It's not a throw caution to the wind on a whim for them. quote:
and now the majority of the time i listen but that wasnt before a long period of fighting it out and bleeding all over the sheets to learn what boundries we didnt want to push. And Inigo is correct again. That is not slavish nor submissive before. That is a SAM topping from the bottom, snipping off his nuts and tucking them neatly in your purse. Any /s with a brain wouldn't put him/herself in a position where a fight or blood on the sheets was an option. More poor choices. quote:
obsolving someone of choice doesnt make it so, it makes them confused. it makes them wonder why nothing in life is turning out right. it doesnt take choice away. Anyone entering in a SSC M/s D/s dynamic wouldn't ever make that statement nor would the thought cross their minds. Most "sane" people allow people into their lives that will compliment their lives, not complicate them. Only desperate HNG's will choose a micromangment headcase for an /s. When you are an /s entering into a D/s M/s dynamic you are being absolved of nothing. You enter that dynamic full well of His/Her agenda and that agenda shall become yours as well. There is nothing, not one instance in your life that you will find yourself absolved of choice... you can choose to do as instructed or choose not to, but you are responsable for the choices you make, never absolved of choice. quote:
control isnt about taking choices away. it's about offering better ones. Control is about leading the relationship dynamic, and that does not always offer better choices, they are what they are, and if you are stupid enough to submit to someone that makes poor choices in leading your relationship, that's on you. Death is not going to give you a coupon because you saraficed your life for stupidity. In another post, perhaps thread, DesFip said that in her dynamic she would be asked to go off task. She had the choice to it or not do it, however, her choice was amazingly simple and submissive. She told Him that yes she could do X, but that would prevent Y. In no way was her statement topping from the bottom, SAMish, or defiant. It was very reasonable, well presented, and clearly showed the He is the captain, but she is a damn fine navigator. I am confident that she has navigated the captain of her ship through some pretty rough water and did so elegantly and my friend Inigo Montoyo wouldn't have much to say about her definition of slavery. Again, I am in total agreement with Inigio Montoya, you keep using that word, and I don't think it means what you think it means. You sign up for X because X is agreeable. You don't fight and cover the sheets in blood and call it slavery. That is delusional. Jus sayin
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