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joether -> RE: California's newest gun law comes with an admission (10/6/2014 12:15:36 AM)
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: joether
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
'Gunphobia'? The word your looking for is Hoplophobia (an fear of weapons). Technically, its not an actual phobia.
Since the gunaphobic does not seem to fear other weapons Hoplophobia doesn't fit (how many times have you seen people tell us how much better it is to get stabbed than to fight back.
You ....DO....understand that firearms are a form of weapon? Right?
So Hoplophobia would be a more correct way of explaining it. And as noted in the description, Hoplophobia is not an actual phobia as defined by the Diagnostics and Statistical Manual used by the American Psychologist Association and many others.
I don't hear to many gun nuts say they would like bullets in their body instead of knife wounds. Death is death. You assume you would never be in a situation in which the enemy gets the drop on you. That you'll be Chuck Norris, all of Saturday Morning Cartoons, Master Chief, Rambo, and Judge Dredd rolled into one (or just an Adeptus Astartes.....). You might want to get that delusional view point checked with a mental/emotional health professional!
Of course everyone fights back. The question is, 'what do you call someone moments before a crime is committed with a firearm for the first time against someone else?' An....'Honest an Law-Abiding Citizen'! Didn't work out for Michael Dunn or Adam Lanza. That even with people armed, mass shooting will STILL take place (i.e. Gabby Giffords). We can sit here and talk all day and all night on the points.
At the end of each day, what have we accomplished? Have we reduced crime? Have we reduced the frequency of mass shootings? Have we made the streets safer? Kept our rights? A society will come to a viewpoint and have to deal with the positive and negative consequences of that viewpoint. The question then becomes: Can that viewpoint change? More so...should we?
Don't talk to me like I am an idiot.
When people pretend that allowing criminals the advantage (while being too stupid to realize it) by reducing everyone to knives their phobia is not of all weapons but to guns, and guns alone. Get back to me after you give the nutsacker lecture.
And what is the 'criminal advantage'? Oh that's right, they just call 1-800-Need-Gun, and the customer service operate sells them everything they need. Back to reality....
Let's just say such a ban on firearms was put into a large geographical area (i.e. the United States).....
In places were obtaining a firearm is hard for average citizens, it becomes much harder on the criminals. Those selling the guns want to make a killing (no pun intended) on the gun they are selling that is marked up on the black market. How many criminals can afford the weapons at that new rate? England is a good indication of that. Less supply means less competitors to whom one could obtain the firearm to use on the citizens that don't have guns. BUT....there is just as many under cover cops looking for those selling guns as before. So the person selling the gun, is much more careful on WHO they reveal their inventory too. Doesn't this sound logical given circumstances?
In areas with tight firearm restrictions/bans, how often do the police come across a weapon used in a crime that came from that location (i.e. Chicago)? Rarily. Yet, they do find such arms from locations with very lax firearm laws (i.e. Texas). So here is the question I have, that I would like answered in all honest: How many weapons, found in Texas, from a crime scene have their origins from Chicago?
Lets just say for the sake of the argument, the United States put a ban on firearms (not that I see this happening in my life time). Firearms would begin to be less and less common as the years went by. Those with firearms would be less and less inclined to sell those firearms; even to the criminal element. Likewise, someone finding a bunch of firearms might ignore some of the other loot at the location for the firearms. Supply and Demand works just as much in the criminal world as it does in the 'honest and law abiding' citizens. At first, there would be a number of violent crimes with firearms involved. And they would become less and less as time went forward. We know this as a behavior given other nations that went down this route.
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