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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/4/2014 3:36:59 PM   
LookieNoNookie


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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/4/2014 7:25:44 PM   
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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/4/2014 8:08:44 PM   
FieryOpal


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ORIGINAL: Bhruic

Sounds like you are asking permission to fleece older women. If you are comfortable being a young male whore, and they are comfortable paying you for your services, by all means... give them a list of your material requirements.

Have to hand it to you for cutting to the chase. *High Five*
It does not seem as if uksubmale31 has sentimental gift-giving in mind to celebrate special occasions.

In fact one of the most charming qualities I find in any male is the romantic desire to please his lady. When men show unselfish generosity of himself (time, material, resources, consideration) without an immediate expectation of reward (other than expressing appreciation or simple gratitude), it can be the catalyst for inspiring a woman to want to give more generously or openly of herself, in ways that transcend monetary value.

This OP sounds quite immature for a 31-year-old male who should have already started getting established in life and whose priorities as a submissive should be pleasing his Mistress, not ruminating upon what more can she do or provide for his material & physical gratification.

Oh wait...OP only *dates* older so-called dominant women. He doesn't actually have a Mistress. That would undoubtedly cramp his style -- Why then, he might have to start acting like a submissive MAN for real.

As for the authentic submissives out there in serious, committed LTRs, why wouldn't you keep a mental or written-down Wish List? A couple girlfriends of mine cut out magazine pictures of exotic travel locations they hope to visit one day, or of their dream house, and tack it with a magnetic holder onto the sides of the fridge. There's nothing wrong with imagining what you want and then making it manifest in one form or another, whether single-handedly or with the help of your SO.

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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/4/2014 9:45:47 PM   
Twistedtrucker


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Status: offline 		No matter who you are, it is important to have dreams and goal. Mentioned here as a "wish list".
Not every one of them will be attainable, or even wise to pursue IF attained, but without them life lacks direction.

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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/4/2014 11:23:27 PM   
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Sure you can have a wish list---my list is simple--- I wish for a compatible dominant!


Ditto!

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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/5/2014 12:21:50 AM   
DaddySatyr


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Of course submissive ladies can have a wish list.

Now that I'm here, what are your other two wishes?







Screen captures (and pissing on shadows) still RULE! Ya feel me?

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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/5/2014 8:49:25 AM   
catize


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


Of course submissive ladies can have a wish list.

Now that I'm here, what are your other two wishes?




A dominant Genie??? Oh, swoon!!! Allow me to rub your............errr, lamp??!


< Message edited by catize -- 10/5/2014 8:53:10 AM >

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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/5/2014 11:59:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: uksubmale31
Is a wish list for a sub a good idea?

You sound awfully young, OP, but I'll answer your question.

I encourage everybody I'm close to, to make an Amazon wish list. It has nothing to do with sex or power. It's a way to connect more closely. I can see what people need, and what people enjoy. Then, if I want to be extra surprising, I buy something related that isn't on the list.

My sister recently texted me, "I can feel your love in this package as I'm opening it."

More BDSM-y: my kinky lady friend wants to design a steampunk-ish costume, so she put a generic steampunk book on her wish list. I did some research, and bought her a book specifically geared to people who made things, so it was both a surprise and a better fit. That was good for our sex life.

Use anything you want, including a wish list, to build relationships with other people. But if you are just using people, they will probably end up just using you back.

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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/5/2014 3:19:24 PM   
DaddySatyr


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quote:

ORIGINAL: catize

A dominant Genie??? Oh, swoon!!! Allow me to rub your............errr, lamp??!



Just remember not to rub the "lamp", if you don't want the "genie" to come out (no puff of smoke, here. It's good wholesome liquid)







Screen captures (and pissing on shadows) still RULE! Ya feel me?

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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/5/2014 5:33:32 PM   
MalcolmNathaniel


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Status: offline 		A wish list for a sub/slave? Absolutely fine.

However, depending on how much of a sadist the top is, you are just asking for a bit more torture.

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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/5/2014 5:38:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MalcolmNathaniel

A wish list for a sub/slave? Absolutely fine.

However, depending on how much of a sadist the top is, you are just asking for a bit more torture.

That begs the question "If I purchase x torture device for my Owner, is that a gift for him or me?"
*laughs*

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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/5/2014 6:20:46 PM   
evesgrden


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Status: offline 		Color me hallmark, but gifts should come from the heart and shouldn't have anything to do with power. Do you give your friends, parents, children, neighbors, colleagues your "wish lists" in case they just want to show appreciation? Wish lists are for registries and kids who believe in Santa.

They're gifts.

Or they're payment.

Choose.

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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/5/2014 6:43:35 PM   
MalcolmNathaniel


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ORIGINAL: PandoraFoxxx

That begs the question "If I purchase x torture device for my Owner, is that a gift for him or me?"
*laughs*


Think about this Pandora you Foxxxy lady: you are a big-time Star Wars fan and I buy you Star Trek t-shirts and force you to wear them. You like Louboutin shoes? I force you to buy everything at Payless.

Those are rather grotesque answers. Like Louboutin? I force you to wear Christian Dior. Not what you wanted but too nice to complain about. And that really sweet St. Andrews Cross you want? Nope, too demeaning - you will enjoy the ropes I tie you up with and suffer in silence.

Torture doesn't necessarily involve whips and chains.

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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/5/2014 6:50:26 PM   
MalcolmNathaniel


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Status: offline 		To actually answer the question the OP asked: yes, it is OK to have a wish list.

It is not OK to expect a mistress to follow it. Part of being a sub/slave is that you need to understand it's HER wants and wishes that need to be fulfilled - not yours. Maybe you'll be thrown a bone now and then, probably after you throw her a bone, but you should never expect it nor should it be a condition.

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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/5/2014 7:55:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

As for the authentic submissives out there in serious, committed LTRs, why wouldn't you keep a mental or written-down Wish List? A couple girlfriends of mine cut out magazine pictures of exotic travel locations they hope to visit one day, or of their dream house, and tack it with a magnetic holder onto the sides of the fridge. There's nothing wrong with imagining what you want and then making it manifest in one form or another, whether single-handedly or with the help of your SO.


Thanks for the high five :) I agree that committed relationships are an entirely different story. I drop hints to my partner about what I want for Christmas all the time, and she does likewise.

Numerous repliers seem to have misinterpreted the OP's "wish list" comment as referring an experiential, or kink wish list... rather than a material one. That is also a different story, in my opinion. It is natural to have a wish list of experiences you would like to try. That is really more of a bucket list though.

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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/6/2014 3:19:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: evesgrden

Color me hallmark, but gifts should come from the heart and shouldn't have anything to do with power. Do you give your friends, parents, children, neighbors, colleagues your "wish lists" in case they just want to show appreciation? Wish lists are for registries and kids who believe in Santa.

They're gifts.

Or they're payment.

Choose.


All this wish list nonsense is what I call "bureaucracy", and it's getting in the way of MY playtime. New thread; "Lifestyle Female Ds, a dying breed? Can you blame them?"

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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/6/2014 5:34:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


quote:

ORIGINAL: catize

A dominant Genie??? Oh, swoon!!! Allow me to rub your............errr, lamp??!



Just remember not to rub the "lamp", if you don't want the "genie" to come out (no puff of smoke, here. It's good wholesome liquid)







Screen captures (and pissing on shadows) still RULE! Ya feel me?


geeze DS

geeze


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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/6/2014 7:47:39 AM   
FieryOpal


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ORIGINAL: Bhruic

Numerous repliers seem to have misinterpreted the OP's "wish list" comment as referring an experiential, or kink wish list... rather than a material one. That is also a different story, in my opinion.

Oh, I'm pretty sure that OP has numerous GIMME lists, as well as the standard DO-ME SUB LIST FOR KINK & FETISH DELIVERY SYSTEMS (aka Domme-Tops). His idea of a Wish List seems more aligned with compiling an on-line *Gift*Wish List Registry, and his rationale is that since Fin-Dommes maintain [Amazon]Wish Lists, why shouldn't he? Never mind that he's not a Fin-Domme, not even a Fin-Switch (although he could target the non-hetero HNG market share). Or that he isn't in a position to interest any women in "purchasing" his used underclothing or pay for cam shows. No, he wants fast-food gratification rather than dealing in relationship currency, only he has no (unwanted) fast food to offer us either. If anybody can coin a name for this, other than young-adult male self-entitlement syndrome (the female version is already referred to loosely as a Valley Girl [Pay]Princess), I'd be happy to hear what this pathology is called.

quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessManko
quote:

ORIGINAL: evesgrden

Color me hallmark, but gifts should come from the heart and shouldn't have anything to do with power. Do you give your friends, parents, children, neighbors, colleagues your "wish lists" in case they just want to show appreciation? Wish lists are for registries and kids who believe in Santa.

They're gifts.

Or they're payment.

Choose.

All this wish list nonsense is what I call "bureaucracy", and it's getting in the way of MY playtime. New thread; "Lifestyle Female Ds, a dying breed? Can you blame them?"

The prognosis doesn't look good, GM. You could start such a thread, but there are barely any of us bona fide Lifestyle Dommes left anymore, much less still available, to post upon it.

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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/6/2014 5:34:13 PM   
seekingOwnertoo


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ORIGINAL: GoddessManko


New thread; "Lifestyle Female Ds, a dying breed? Can you blame them?"


Goddess Manko,

You might use the thread below as a reference for Your proposed thread ... note both: "the discussion" and the number of Dominant Women posting

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2976113/mpage_1/key_Dominant+Women/tm.htm#2976113






< Message edited by seekingOwnertoo -- 10/6/2014 5:36:44 PM >

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RE: Can subs have a wish list? - 10/6/2014 8:11:15 PM   
ChrchofDrk


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