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RE: Legal slavery contract - 10/9/2014 7:57:29 AM   
Redhusky


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Status: offline 		i did say slavery is illegal , actual slavery is illegal


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RE: Legal slavery contract - 10/9/2014 8:22:46 AM   
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Doesn't say anything about voluntary servitude. Which, when consent is given, doesn't that make it voluntary?


This is not what the OP wants though, they do not want to be able to get out of the agreement if they change their mind.

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RE: Legal slavery contract - 10/9/2014 8:24:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bhruic

Has anyone mention that he could commit a felony? Prison sounds the closest to what he is after hehe.


Indeed, they don't really care if you change your mind about being in there.

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RE: Legal slavery contract - 10/9/2014 8:51:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hmmmmm .. well isn't this a conundrum. The sites ToS is against anything illegal. Yet the site has a category of slaves. Since slavery is illegal. Doesn't that make all the slaves not really slaves but voluntary servitudians?

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RE: Legal slavery contract - 10/9/2014 9:46:25 AM   
Redhusky


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Status: offline 		depends what you understand as slave
in bdsm world all slaves are free and they by consent submit to somebody
they arent forced to submit and have always have choose to leave by there own free will

bdsm slaves is totally different than to the actual slaves
on this site , on any legal fethis sites, all slaves are not the illegal kind , they are free to do what they want , but they choose to serve
all the slaves here did it by there own free will and by there own free will are still slaves



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RE: Legal slavery contract - 10/9/2014 10:30:15 AM   
ChrchofDrk


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RE: Legal slavery contract - 10/9/2014 12:44:16 PM   
Redhusky


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Status: offline 		i see you posted a link
then why did you ask
you answered your question with the link

also that defines what a slave is generally
it dosent talk about the possibility of what type of slave can be , also the possibility of what type of slave can be will vary from person to person or dont have at all different types of slaves

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RE: Legal slavery contract - 10/9/2014 1:26:42 PM   
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i see you posted a link
then why did you ask
you answered your question with the link


It wasn't really meant as that serious of a question. More my underdeveloped sense of humor

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RE: Legal slavery contract - 10/14/2014 12:08:30 AM   
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A comfortable home....clothes on her back....food....health care. Can't someone hire someone to work in their home and provide all the things that they need to live....but not necessarily give them money? Wouldn't that still be legal?


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ORIGINAL: ChrchofDrk

Oh I've heard tell of "paying" a "slave" a buck a month or year. Some insignificant stipend that suffices as monetary pay. Or opening an account for the "slave" that h/she only has access to in the event of release. There's many ways to circumvent the "law". Still, a contract is only as good as your word


Neither of these would be legal - let alone legally binding - employment contracts under US federal labor law, though. "Household employees" (servants) are required to be paid at least minimum wage, even if they're provided room and board, and can't be contract employees, let alone ones that work for $1.

Not only would that contract not be legally binding, the slave could easily leave and sue their ex-"employer" for back wages for the whole time they were "employed", and the IRS would also come after the Master/Mistress for back payroll taxes for those back wages.

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RE: Legal slavery contract - 10/14/2014 7:54:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ChrchofDrk

Hmmmmm .. well isn't this a conundrum. The sites ToS is against anything illegal. Yet the site has a category of slaves. Since slavery is illegal. Doesn't that make all the slaves not really slaves but voluntary servitudians?


Surely you cannot be so obtuse as to imagine that people are referring to real, literal, slavery when they speak of slavery in BDSM?

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RE: Legal slavery contract - 10/14/2014 9:22:12 PM   
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Surely you cannot be so obtuse as to imagine that people are referring to real, literal, slavery when they speak of slavery in BDSM?


First. I just love the word obtuse and no, it was more a poor attempt at ironic humor. However, just because you seem to want to pick a fight Bhruic. Here goes. It is absolutely ignorant to call it slavery when it's not slavery. Is it human trafficking? No because consent is involved. At least that's what those in this Life have to say for themselves. Yet I've read profiles of people with slaves for sale. There's a recurring one with asian slaves for sale. Should I not take them seriously? Is it all just satire? Probably not. Maybe it is. I've read profiles of slaves and submissives alike that say they want it as close to real as possible. Are they all just full of shit? We all know real slavery is illegal. It seems stupid to me to call someone a slave and then say "oh but not really cause we all know slavery's illegal hehehehehe" But hey. Whatever floats your boat

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RE: Legal slavery contract - 10/15/2014 4:51:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ChrchofDrk

Yet I've read profiles of people with slaves for sale. There's a recurring one with asian slaves for sale. Should I not take them seriously?



Are you reporting those profiles? You should be.

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