ResidentSadist
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My orgasms have changed over the years. My clit is not as sensitive as it was when I was younger. But I never knew the soul satisfying orgasm that I get from pain. It's a fair trade off. I dont think i ever squirted until 2 years ago. Master was my first. Not all orgasms are created equal. Some are more intense than others. Some last longer. Some make me highly sensitive. Some make me crave more. I've probably had every kind there is. One thing they all have in common, they don't suck. Intellectually I understand there are women that have never had an orgasm. But it's beyond my comprehension. I can't even mention here how old I was my first one. But I sure liked it and have never gone more than a few days without since then.
And intellectually, I can't comprehend a woman who can cum from pain alone...
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I'll let samdarella speak for herself but as an experienced sadist, I would like to say a few things to help you wrap your head around it. To connect all the dots, my reply grew rather long. Maybe it needs its own thread? But please take this reply with an open mind and I think you will understand by the time you get to the end.
-=Pain is an emotional response=-
"The reason some people utilize pain to enhance sex is not because it is a pleasurable sensation, but the one most capable of evoking powerful emotions. (Dr. Moacir Schnapp)"
Don't believe pain is emotional? I can prove it. Ever cut yourself unknowingly. Then when you discover the cut, suddenly it hurts? That was your emotional response kicking in.
I believe this is why some BDSMers are confused about whether they are masochists or not. They enjoy being beaten, tortured, whipped etc, but they don't really like pain itself. That is why they have a threshold point at which the torture turns from a pleasurable experience to an unpleasant and painful one... they reached their "limits".
I know a maso when I see one and samdarella... yes, my lovely pain slut had doubts about the extent of her masochism when I first met her. That is because she only understood the threshold relative aspects of her prior experiences.
-=Endorphins and adrenaline change your response to pain=-
There is also that point in intimate encounters, even vanilla ones, when your are so full of endorphins and adrenaline all sensation is reduced to just that... sensation. Being in the heat of passion and so numb you can't even feel your own skin, you start biting and have to beast fuck as hard as you can just to feel it because your sensation threshold is so high. It is the rhythm of the fuck in your guts, the shaking in your bones that brings you to orgasm, not the sensations in your skin. Next thing you know, later when the endorphins subside, you find someone needs to go to the hospital and get stitches in their torn cul-de-sac.
-=Corporeal orgasm can be involuntary=-
First, I need to remind you how the mind and body are separately responsible for orgasms. People with PGAD (Persistent genital arousal disorder) suffer from multiple daily orgasms and/or uncontrollable genital arousal and engorgement, unrelated to any feelings of sexual desire. It is from damage to their pudendal nerve.
I believe you can induce an orgasm in anyone. willing or unwilling, by using the correct physical mechanics. For women, it takes 2 or 3 minutes to stimulate the right parts and make them squirt, even if they are an unwilling stranger. Great party trick and yes, it really works on total strangers that are unwilling participants and not sexually excited. That is a corporeal induced orgasm and unlike pain or pleasure, their emotional response is irrelevant to the outcome.
-=The pain of spanking is sexual and can be orgasmic=-
My fav short video in the topic. LINK: MANswers: Does Spanking Lead to Horniness? Remember the pudendal nerve? It stimulates your genitals. If you are practiced at the mechanics and you can read your partner well enough not to cross over their emotional threshold response to pain, you can probably make them orgasm from the pain of a spanking. It's all about location, getting the rhythm right and intensity of pudendal nerve stimulation to make it an erotically orgasmic spanking. "Have you had your spankings yet today?
-=Not just spanking, but any pain can sexual and orgasmic if done right=-
OK, so mind and body can be separate or in conjunction. If the sensation of pain is emotional, then you can attach or condition any response to it you wish. S types with constant sexual/emotional reinforcement get higher and higher thresholds for torture. More extreme things become possible. This is how some can get "crossed wires" as my slave calls it.
With conditioning (aka training) you can let those waves of pain sensation evolve and swim through your body to create sexual and orgasmic responses. Breath evenly, breathe deeply, be completely in the moment and do not anticipate the initial contact. Think past that and let pain become more of a burning sensation, a growing glow that gets more intense with each torture. Let the heat of it warm you and your passions. As the torture intensifies, ride the waves until it is the rhythm of their sensations, like the beast fuck, that push you to orgasm. It is not the sensations on your skin at the point of torture, it is the sexual symphony of your whole nervous system as wave after wave of sensation brings you to an orgasmic crescendo. And when done right, you will feel a primal release, leaving you spent and as content as any beast fucking could.
. . . By my experience, I believe that with the proper understanding of physical and mental mechanics, and with a motivated partner, you make "pain" a sexual experience for anyone. My experience has also lead me to believe that with an emotional connection you can lead your emotionally invested partner to all forms of orgasm, from pain, squirting or otherwise.
< Message edited by ResidentSadist -- 10/19/2014 9:47:32 AM >
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