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BamaD -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/26/2014 10:16:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
You continually suggest the only solution is to flood the streets with guns, some of us are more enlightened.

Well if that is true then you should have no problems linking a post where she suggested the answer is to flood the streets with guns. Otherwise we are going to have to assume you are just talking out of your ass again.

Unlike you, I am bright enough to know what the fuck I am talking about.
Do you really think arming everyone in the UK wouldnt be flooding the streets with guns, because Aylee suggested the Rotherham case would be different if everyone had access to firearms. I know you are just trolling like usual, like you normally fucking do, but I felt the need to ask all the same.


Where did anyone say that everyone in the UK should be armed? Suggesting everyone have access to arms doesn't mean everyone is going to be armed. We aren't all armed in the US, are we? Yet, our access isn't amazingly limited at all. What makes you think allowing UK Citizens who want firearms to be allowed to have firearms means that all UK Citizens will be armed, and that guns will flood the streets (I haven't seen a gun being carried on the street by anyone but a LEO, though I do know there have been at least some concealed carrying).


I think we have a terminology problem. To many from the UK allowing concealed carry is "flooding the streets" To most from the US that means everyone on the street is open carry, likely waving their guns around, like Hamas.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/26/2014 2:44:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
You continually suggest the only solution is to flood the streets with guns, some of us are more enlightened.

Well if that is true then you should have no problems linking a post where she suggested the answer is to flood the streets with guns. Otherwise we are going to have to assume you are just talking out of your ass again.

Unlike you, I am bright enough to know what the fuck I am talking about.
Do you really think arming everyone in the UK wouldnt be flooding the streets with guns, because Aylee suggested the Rotherham case would be different if everyone had access to firearms. I know you are just trolling like usual, like you normally fucking do, but I felt the need to ask all the same.

Where did anyone say that everyone in the UK should be armed? Suggesting everyone have access to arms doesn't mean everyone is going to be armed. We aren't all armed in the US, are we? Yet, our access isn't amazingly limited at all. What makes you think allowing UK Citizens who want firearms to be allowed to have firearms means that all UK Citizens will be armed, and that guns will flood the streets (I haven't seen a gun being carried on the street by anyone but a LEO, though I do know there have been at least some concealed carrying).

I think we have a terminology problem. To many from the UK allowing concealed carry is "flooding the streets" To most from the US that means everyone on the street is open carry, likely waving their guns around, like Hamas.


To me, "flooding the streets" means that the streets are full of people with guns. There are enough dumbasses that if the streets were "flooded" with guns, there'd be enough open-carry people that they'd have been seen. That's not even requiring them to be "brandishing" their weapons, either (though there'd likely be some of those morons, too).




Politesub53 -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/26/2014 5:23:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


I think we have a terminology problem. To many from the UK allowing concealed carry is "flooding the streets" To most from the US that means everyone on the street is open carry, likely waving their guns around, like Hamas.


No Bama, you have a stupidity problem, just like the others who cant follow plain English.




Politesub53 -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/26/2014 5:32:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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laughable that you moan about insults, given your posting history.

Well in all fairness, she's never called you a "stupid cow." [:)]

K.







For once we agree, although as far as know, I havent called her dopey bollocks either. [;)]




Politesub53 -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/26/2014 5:34:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

laughable that you moan about insults, given your posting history.

Well in all fairness, she's never called you a "stupid cow." [:)]

K.








No I didn't. And I notice with all his huffing and puffing he still hasn't given us a link to back up his bullshit statement.


I explained it to you twice, is it that difficult for you to grasp ?




thishereboi -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/27/2014 7:17:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
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ORIGINAL: thishereboi
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
You continually suggest the only solution is to flood the streets with guns, some of us are more enlightened.

Well if that is true then you should have no problems linking a post where she suggested the answer is to flood the streets with guns. Otherwise we are going to have to assume you are just talking out of your ass again.

Unlike you, I am bright enough to know what the fuck I am talking about.
Do you really think arming everyone in the UK wouldnt be flooding the streets with guns, because Aylee suggested the Rotherham case would be different if everyone had access to firearms. I know you are just trolling like usual, like you normally fucking do, but I felt the need to ask all the same.


Where did anyone say that everyone in the UK should be armed? Suggesting everyone have access to arms doesn't mean everyone is going to be armed. We aren't all armed in the US, are we? Yet, our access isn't amazingly limited at all. What makes you think allowing UK Citizens who want firearms to be allowed to have firearms means that all UK Citizens will be armed, and that guns will flood the streets (I haven't seen a gun being carried on the street by anyone but a LEO, though I do know there have been at least some concealed carrying).



According to PS Aylee has continually said it but when I asked for a link he called me a stupid cow. Perhaps you will have better luck but I am not holding my breath.




thishereboi -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/27/2014 7:21:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

laughable that you moan about insults, given your posting history.

Well in all fairness, she's never called you a "stupid cow." [:)]

K.








No I didn't. And I notice with all his huffing and puffing he still hasn't given us a link to back up his bullshit statement.


I explained it to you twice, is it that difficult for you to grasp ?




Not at all. You claimed she said something she never said and now you are backpedaling like crazy trying to make us think you meant something totally different.




Aylee -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/27/2014 4:11:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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Well you wouldnt see it that way, would you Aylee. Some of us put saving lives first.

Read the figures to see if gun laws work or not. You will note that ownership isnt banned outright, just some sensible laws put in place.

http://www.businessinsider.com/canada-australia-japan-britain-gun-control-2013-1


Ah yes. The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled by her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.

Can you imagine the difference it could of made if the mother's and father's or even the girls themselves in Rotherham had had access to firearm?

Oh wait. That might actually take a life. Rape is just a property crime, after all.


Now you are trying to put words in my mouth. I never mentioned rape, not once. The only theory I have is that yet again you are talking shit. As for mentioning Rotherham, thats some fucking lowpoint, even for you. Let me point something out though, any father could have killed his daughters abuser, any woman with a knife could have defended herself. You continually suggest the only solution is to flood the streets with guns, some of us are more enlightened.



You are the one that would prefer to save the attacker's life as opposed to saving the person from being attacked.

And a woman with a knife could have defended herself? Sure, maybe on Xena:Warrior Princess. But no, 99% of women do not have the upper body strength or the reach. Especially in the Rotherham situation where there was gang raping and the parents as well as the girls were being threatened. But hey! Good news! The attackers are perfectly fine.




PeonForHer -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/27/2014 5:05:19 PM)

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Not at all. You claimed she said something she never said and now you are backpedaling like crazy trying to make us think you meant something totally different.


You could call it 'hoist by your own petard', THB. I've often noticed you making 'you seem to ....' sorts of statements to posters (including me, frequently) that are just crap. You don't bother to cite the posts that brought you to your conclusion about a given poster's position - you just state how this or that poster has come across to you - as though your own prejudices and misapprehensions - no matter how disputed they are by the relevant posters - are, nonetheless, 'the truth'. If you're going to give it, you must expect to take it, too.




Politesub53 -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/27/2014 5:41:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Not at all. You claimed she said something she never said and now you are backpedaling like crazy trying to make us think you meant something totally different.


Good grief, are you really so dense as not to understand simple English ?




Politesub53 -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/27/2014 5:47:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

You are the one that would prefer to save the attacker's life as opposed to saving the person from being attacked.

And a woman with a knife could have defended herself? Sure, maybe on Xena:Warrior Princess. But no, 99% of women do not have the upper body strength or the reach. Especially in the Rotherham situation where there was gang raping and the parents as well as the girls were being threatened. But hey! Good news! The attackers are perfectly fine.


Two things I know for certain Aylee ;
1) You wont find any post of mine where I have said the attackers life should be saved, so put up or shut up.
2) THB is clearly going to jump right in and demand you post where I have actually said any such thing << Like fuck will she.




BitYakin -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/27/2014 6:33:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
You continually suggest the only solution is to flood the streets with guns, some of us are more enlightened.




Well if that is true then you should have no problems linking a post where she suggested the answer is to flood the streets with guns. Otherwise we are going to have to assume you are just talking out of your ass again.


Unlike you, I am bright enough to know what the fuck I am talking about.

Do you really think arming everyone in the UK wouldnt be flooding the streets with guns, because Aylee suggested the Rotherham case would be different if everyone had access to firearms. I know you are just trolling like usual, like you normally fucking do, but I felt the need to ask all the same.


I find this quite amusing, you say arming everyone in UK would be flooding the street with guns, but I didn't see her or anyone say anything arming everyone in the UK with guns

she and many others HAVE said they should have access, from that you jump to the conclusion that if they had access they'd ALL run right out and get guns, and the street would be FLOODED. but in the post that started this you proclaim "some of us are more enlightened"

seems you feel your countrymen are less enlightened than people of the USA, since we all have access to guns but our streets are NOT flooded with guns, but if you people had that same access it would flood the street with guns

you can't have it BOTH WAYS DUDE

you can not proclaim people in the UK are MORE ENLIGHTENED, then turn around and say if they had the SAME RIGHTS people in the USA have they'd act like SAVAGES




BamaD -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/27/2014 7:01:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BitYakin

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
You continually suggest the only solution is to flood the streets with guns, some of us are more enlightened.




Well if that is true then you should have no problems linking a post where she suggested the answer is to flood the streets with guns. Otherwise we are going to have to assume you are just talking out of your ass again.


Unlike you, I am bright enough to know what the fuck I am talking about.

Do you really think arming everyone in the UK wouldnt be flooding the streets with guns, because Aylee suggested the Rotherham case would be different if everyone had access to firearms. I know you are just trolling like usual, like you normally fucking do, but I felt the need to ask all the same.


I find this quite amusing, you say arming everyone in UK would be flooding the street with guns, but I didn't see her or anyone say anything arming everyone in the UK with guns

she and many others HAVE said they should have access, from that you jump to the conclusion that if they had access they'd ALL run right out and get guns, and the street would be FLOODED. but in the post that started this you proclaim "some of us are more enlightened"

seems you feel your countrymen are less enlightened than people of the USA, since we all have access to guns but our streets are NOT flooded with guns, but if you people had that same access it would flood the street with guns

you can't have it BOTH WAYS DUDE

you can not proclaim people in the UK are MORE ENLIGHTENED, then turn around and say if they had the SAME RIGHTS people in the USA have they'd act like SAVAGES

It is possible that he thinks we act like savages.




thishereboi -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/27/2014 7:26:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

You are the one that would prefer to save the attacker's life as opposed to saving the person from being attacked.

And a woman with a knife could have defended herself? Sure, maybe on Xena:Warrior Princess. But no, 99% of women do not have the upper body strength or the reach. Especially in the Rotherham situation where there was gang raping and the parents as well as the girls were being threatened. But hey! Good news! The attackers are perfectly fine.


Two things I know for certain Aylee ;
1) You wont find any post of mine where I have said the attackers life should be saved, so put up or shut up.
2) THB is clearly going to jump right in and demand you post where I have actually said any such thing << Like fuck will she.




Sure I will, right after you show me where she said flooding the streets with guns is a good idea.




Aylee -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/27/2014 8:31:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

You are the one that would prefer to save the attacker's life as opposed to saving the person from being attacked.

And a woman with a knife could have defended herself? Sure, maybe on Xena:Warrior Princess. But no, 99% of women do not have the upper body strength or the reach. Especially in the Rotherham situation where there was gang raping and the parents as well as the girls were being threatened. But hey! Good news! The attackers are perfectly fine.


Two things I know for certain Aylee ;
1) You wont find any post of mine where I have said the attackers life should be saved, so put up or shut up.
2) THB is clearly going to jump right in and demand you post where I have actually said any such thing << Like fuck will she.



http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4743447

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Some of us put saving lives first.




slvemike4u -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/28/2014 9:59:30 AM)

I see nothing their that says.specifically,saving the attackers lives...certainly nothing that suggests doing so in preference to the "victim".
I'm calling bullshit on that




stanleyt6969yho -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/28/2014 10:16:48 AM)

The best violence control is that everyone carry a gun. Sounds really silly but what criminal would rob a store or rob a bank or try to victimize someone if they knew the other person had a gun. Our 2nd Amend calls for citizens to be able to protect themselves and is why it is in the US constitution and I think most don't carry but sure have a way to defend themselves at home and protect themselves and their families. The only protection from bad guys with guns is a good guy with a gun.
Australia has taken 40 million guns away from law abiding citizens(which is what our president acclaims) and the crime rate went up 2000% in Australia. If guns are not allowed only bad guys will have guns. Never ever hear our liberal media talk about crimes that have been stopped by good guys with guns but it happens everyday. Navy yard shoots in US killed 12 Navy workers and would have killed many more but a good guy with a gun stopped him but try to find that in today's liberal media as it doesn't play into what the administration wants.
We won't have any guns in the hands of law abiding citizens here in the US in 100 years and like boiling a frog it will come a little bit at a time until the only people left with guns are criminals. It is not an issue of liberals of conservative it is an issue of common sense. Accidental shoots in this country are few and far between. If gun control works why are the two areas of the country with the hardest laws the highest in crime in the USA? Laws can never change the heart motives of an individual so why do we think gun laws will change anything to the good as only the good guys will be affected and not the bad guys.




PeonForHer -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/28/2014 10:29:37 AM)

Welcome to the forums, Stanley, and thank you for your contribution.




slvemike4u -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/28/2014 10:37:47 AM)

Yeah,welcome to the forums....as if we didn't have enough putzs submitting posts wherein they make outlandish statements with absolutely no citations( and the crime rate went up 2000% in Australia.)




thishereboi -> RE: Canadian gun control... (10/28/2014 12:37:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: stanleyt6969yho

Australia has taken 40 million guns away from law abiding citizens(which is what our president acclaims) and the crime rate went up 2000% in Australia.


I have been on this site for a long time and we have had many gun discussions. If the above were true, I am pretty sure I would remember seeing links to that figure by now. But hey, I have been wrong before. Maybe you have a link handy to throw out there. In either case welcome to the dungeon.




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