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ORIGINAL: HeartAndSoul31

It is not a problem. There are plenty of volunteer workers who have the knowledge. If it becomes an epidemic, then it's a draft. We have lots of people with the knowledge who gladly help those who need it. They have the knowledge and have no desire to spread it. That is definitely coming from somewhere else. If it came a day it could not be contained, kiss your lucky stars goodbye.

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

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ORIGINAL: HeartAndSoul31

It is not a problem. There are plenty of volunteer workers who have the knowledge. If it becomes an epidemic, then it's a draft. We have lots of people with the knowledge who gladly help those who need it. They have the knowledge and have no desire to spread it. That is definitely coming from somewhere else. If it came a day it could not be contained, kiss your lucky stars goodbye.

We don't need volunteers or draftees, Jesus Christ.


You need trained professionals who have received specialized training, education, and equipment. We don't even have ten people infected in the US yet, it's not a freaking epidemic.

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ORIGINAL: ThirdWheelWanted
You're right, they aren't slaves, so you can't force them to care for anyone they don't wish to care for. However, if they won't do their jobs, then there's no reason they need to stay employed. I have a lot of respect for nurses, I have an Aunt and a Cousin in the profession, and I met some great ones when Linda was sick for so long. I've also met some real assholes. Most health care workers are contentious, truly want to help people, and deserve the salaries they earn. The assholes could care less and want to get as much as possible for doing as little as possible.
Working with sick people can be dangerous, it always has been. If someone can't deal with that, then maybe they should find another line of work.

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz
I just read the new protocol for Ebola at my hospital.
It's a long way away from the initial precaution of flimsy yellow gown and booties, we get impermeable suits, and all staff gets assistance AND supervision while suiting up or down.
I'd take care of an Ebola patient, I'd just request that I be given a room at the hospital to stay for the duration of my care with the patient, because I'd rather not take the risk of dragging Ebola around town.
Would I take care of a patient WITHOUT the fancy new precautions and equipment and staffing. Lol nope, I don't get hazard pay. It's up to hospital administration to protect me- this isn't field work. I'm not going to be unsafe so the hospital can save a buck.

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• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz
I just read the new protocol for Ebola at my hospital.
It's a long way away from the initial precaution of flimsy yellow gown and booties, we get impermeable suits, and all staff gets assistance AND supervision while suiting up or down.
I'd take care of an Ebola patient, I'd just request that I be given a room at the hospital to stay for the duration of my care with the patient, because I'd rather not take the risk of dragging Ebola around town.
Would I take care of a patient WITHOUT the fancy new precautions and equipment and staffing. Lol nope, I don't get hazard pay. It's up to hospital administration to protect me- this isn't field work. I'm not going to be unsafe so the hospital can save a buck.

Should anyone taking care of an Ebola patient be afforded "hazard pay?" I'm not sure that's a bad idea, especially if they have more training than those not caring for Ebola patients.

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You are telling me what we need?
Go on.
I can tell you one thing we don't lack, it's cAlled a backbone.
We are always interested in improving. Any more suggestions rabbit?

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ORIGINAL: ThirdWheelWanted

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ORIGINAL: Aylee
But it is rather sad that you would force someone against their will to treat someone with a procedure that greatly increases their risk of contracting a disease that can liquify your organs.

The problem I see with this is, what's next? If you allow health care providers to refuse to treat patients with Ebola, what about ones who don't want to treat AIDS patients?

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ORIGINAL: ThirdWheelWanted

You're right, they aren't slaves, so you can't force them to care for anyone they don't wish to care for. However, if they won't do their jobs, then there's no reason they need to stay employed. I have a lot of respect for nurses, I have an Aunt and a Cousin in the profession, and I met some great ones when Linda was sick for so long. I've also met some real assholes. Most health care workers are contentious, truly want to help people, and deserve the salaries they earn. The assholes could care less and want to get as much as possible for doing as little as possible.

Working with sick people can be dangerous, it always has been. If someone can't deal with that, then maybe they should find another line of work.

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

They don't have to treat HIV/AIDS patients.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

They don't have to treat HIV/AIDS patients.

The danger associated with treating HIV patients is not even close to being equivalent

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


FR

Real world verification that health care workers cannot be "forced" into abnormally hazardous duty

Told you so

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They don't have to treat HIV/AIDS patients.

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

They don't have to treat HIV/AIDS patients.

The danger associated with treating HIV patients is not even close to being equivalent

I didn't pick the comparison.

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

Retarded keyboard screamers will go off about anything (just read through the thread). Ignorance is a hell of a drug.

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Sanity

And that only one fool in the entire hospital has signed up to be certified to care for ebola patients

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An extraordinary number of Bellevue Hospital staffers called in sick on Friday rather than treat the city’s first Ebola patient — and those who showed up were terrified to enter his isolation chamber, sources told The Post.

“The nurses on the floor are miserable with a ‘why me?’ attitude, scared to death and overworked because all their co-workers called out sick,” one source said.

“One nurse even went as far as to pretend she was having a stroke to get out of working there, but once they cleared her in the ER they sent her back up,” the source added.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I know a critical care nurse who says she and the majority of her coworkers will quit rather than care for ebola patients

And that only one fool in the entire hospital has signed up to be certified to care for ebola patients

So no, hospitals shouldnt be forced to self destruct. Thats insane.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I know a critical care nurse who says she and the majority of her coworkers will quit rather than care for ebola patients

And that only one fool in the entire hospital has signed up to be certified to care for ebola patients

So no, hospitals shouldnt be forced to self destruct. Thats insane.

The actual post, prior to your trollish little edit