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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/1/2014 11:34:30 AM   
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I know its tempting, but we are in General BDSM. Please remember the guidelines in this section. Snark is okay. Name calling or any variance of it, isn't allowed.

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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/1/2014 11:35:48 AM   
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He asked this question, or something similar, in Feb 2013: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4387348/mpage_1/tm.htm

He has spent the better part of 18 months spinning his wheels.
He has been truly sucked in.

And, FWIW, given the nature of how the 'relationship' has been over that time, I honestly think the 'she' is a HE!!


To the OP: how did you let this go on for sooo long??
Most people would have sussed this out within a few emails or exchanges and certainly withing a week or two.
Sheeesh! You must be extremely naive or just a dumb clutz, or both.



True. After that incident, I had no interaction for a month or so, but then again I thought i may be wrong in putting forth demands as a sub, That i was asking her to cam or mic chat after chatting with her like for 3 months or so. i felt her reasons were may be genuine for not camming at that time, as it was just 3 months. She used to sound really sweet & Kind, The more i chatted with her, more feelings i had towards her, so these feelings would never let me go off her, The way she used to speak, her friendliness, really made me go crazy on her.....I felt she may eventually end up showing herself, or reward me for my obidience, thats how it went on streching for so long.....i am naive, i agree on that part...

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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/1/2014 11:38:23 AM   
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I know its tempting, but we are in General BDSM. Please remember the guidelines in this section. Snark is okay. Name calling or any variance of it, isn't allowed.

Thank you


Asshole is a term of endearment.

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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/1/2014 11:41:29 AM   
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Curtain #2 FTW!



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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/1/2014 12:08:39 PM   
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Basements in New Jersey are getting a bad rap in this thread.



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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/1/2014 12:15:21 PM   
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Wake up and smell the incense.

When you think you feel "pure love"... look down. Is that your dick in your hand? What does she have to do with that, other than she is the target of your fantasy.

If you are anonymously supplying a plethora of erotic porn for someone who's voice you have never heard or face you have never seen, you are probably helping some dude in a basement jerk off.

She won't meet you, talk or show you a pic then blocked you, but you think you are getting closer? That's not a relationship issue you need guidance with, we just call that stalking.

Dude, you can't even prove it isn't some dude that has your panties in a twist. You may be spending all your energy on some wonderfully feminine sissy that you share this mutual self gratifying fantasy. Look, they weren't involved in you real day to day life or love or etc... They have been telling you to go it elsewhere. Your perception of what happened vs reality seems a bit twisted. There is no love, there is no mutual emotional investment. she/he only takes you back after you beg your way back in. You are just two online anonymous mutual masturbation fantasy buddies. They won't get real with you because:

She . . . is really a he.
She . . . is married with 27 kids and you were her quite Calgon Bath time jerk off fantasy.
She . . . is vanilla and your were her trip to the wild side jerk off fantasy.
She . . . doesn't like you but she likes your good stories and begging skills so you suit her fantasy. Who you are has nothing to do with the appeal, it what you do for them that gets you back in the door.

Reality check ..................
They aren't going to suddenly change the routine after 18 months.
They are gonna' replace you with someone that doesn't want to change things.
They are happy doing what they do, the way they are doing it now. It ain't gonna' change.

That's the way I see it from what you've said. Take my 2 cents for what's worth and go makes some practical and effective choices about your life.

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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/1/2014 12:15:29 PM   
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she's playing you for a sucker. move on.

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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/1/2014 12:18:10 PM   
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she's playing you for a sucker. move on.

I think they (he or she) are playing him for the original custom tailored "fetish/roleplay erotic femdom stories" he supplies.

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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/1/2014 12:28:23 PM   
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It's a man. 100%.
take your stories and get 'em published instead.
You are wasting your time. Be more patient and less desperate.

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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/1/2014 12:33:53 PM   
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she's playing you for a sucker. move on.

I think they (he or she) are playing him for the original custom tailored "fetish/roleplay erotic femdom stories" he supplies.

that most of all.

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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/1/2014 12:41:38 PM   
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I have been in one New Jersey basement.

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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/1/2014 1:16:53 PM   
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~FRing it~

OP, you have two choices...

Pine away for some online person who hasn't met you in person in 18 months, told you "she" wouldn't, and has told you to find someone else.

OR...

Move on with your search, possibly find someone you can spend your life with, and live the life you want to live.

These two things are mutually exclusive with no overlap anywhere. It's your choice what you want. She isn't going to be your happily ever after...ever.

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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/1/2014 2:07:09 PM   
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I think the OP has just failed to prove how valuable he can be to this person.

OP, I think you should tough it out. Who cares if there are dozens of ladies in your own state, here that could be a really good match for you? Who cares if you spend more time with your Johnson in your hand than in your partner's body? Who cares if you may never feel that special feeling of holding the hand of the person you're in love with? I can tell you that there's two people who don't care; the person you're communicating with and I.

On a more semi-serious note: if this person does turn out to be male (and I think there's a better than even chance of that), have you given much thought to tearing down some pre-conceived notions that you might have had which would increase your potential dating pool, a bit?







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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/1/2014 4:17:29 PM   
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Hello,

This is a bit lengthy, pardon me, but i had to write a bit detail just to give a perspective.

I need an advice or guidance from expirienced fellow kinksters. I am in a dillemma, my problem is this. I have been chatting with a dominant female for about more than 1.5 yrs now. she is from India & from chatting what i make out is, she is a very good person & kind. However I have never seen her, either a picture of her or in person nor i have heard her voice. She has also not seen me, as i have not shared my pic with her (I refrain from sharing my pic online due to safety concerns). She has not asked me to share my pic either.
I started to really love her more than myself. However even at this stage I had not seen or heard her voice. It was love at no sight at all !!!!

One day I confessed her, that I liked her, she was neither taken aback nor surprised, she was supportive of my feelings. I even went onto talk about marriage at one point (Very premature in hindsight I guess). She simply said she wanted me to continue entertaining her over online & in due time she would take it to next level & She will decide when it will happen.

This went on for quite a some time. One fine day I asked her to atleast meet me in a public place or cam chat (Even without a face) or mic chat over net. She simply refused saying that she will do it on her own terms & not under the terms of a sub. I conceded.
Then again It went onto many more days & months, My feeling & urge, addiction, yearning towards her grew more & more during this course of time.

I badly wanted to see her or lets say curious to see her. However she declined my request repeatedly.I was curious to know about the person for whom i was spending my time & energy. But thats when our equation started to go worse, She was frustrated & blocked me. But since I was so addicted to her, it was difficult for me to take that. (WTF)

I again somehow approached her, She was kind hearted enough to oblige my request. (again, WTF) I requested her to let me be a friend, She was ok with that. She was more of a friend this time. Infact very good friend. but still no meeting nor seeing eachother.

With her consent I came to an agreement that i can go ahead and search for a suitable life partner for me. Post this i've spent lot of time trying to find a friend. However i miserably failed to find a suitable person. At this same point i was getting pressure to settle down in life from my parents also, but I didnt want to marry a vanilla person either. I was very frustrated, confused, Thats when i turned back to this friend again & I asked her for guidance.

She adviced me to not to marry vanilla person, keep on searching until i get a soulmate or I can come back again (She has good opinion about me as a person as she knows me very well after being chatting for so long). (Yes, ruining your life is a clear sign she cares)She said i can comeback again but this time, I have to give up all my control & truly submit to her. I agreed, but again I begged her to meet me just once in public place before i can fully give up my control to her. But again she simply refused.

I humbly told her that, I was afraid to fully give up my control, because i feel vulnerable and not safe. I told her, kindly meet me once in public place, so that i can feel i am in right place under right person. so that i can feel comfortable, But she simply said, "I dont have to prove myself". (TELL ME AGAIN HOW SHE'S A GOOD PERSON?)

Now after chatting with this person for quite a some time my heart says she is a good person, but since I have not seen her, my head says i should meet her atleast once before fully dedicating my time & energy towards her again. Its not like i am doubting her, its just i want to reinforce my belief that i am with right person.

Finally I have asked her to give me couple of days of time to decide abt my future for which she has agreed.

Now i request the fellow kinksters to advice me what should i do? I am confused....Help me guys....


Based on what I highlighted, I can say, I am confused too. OK, so you fell into the online fantasy barbarella trap where she is the Domme of your dreams and you get to live out your submissive fantasies while playing it safe offline. Sounds like typical finsub stuff. However you are saying you love this faceless entity more than yourself. You are investing an unhealthy amount of time and emotional investment into a road leading nowhere. I'm sure she was wonderful for you and vice versa but you need to get off this hamster wheel sometime. What has you convinced you cannot have a discreet D/s relationship with a woman offline? Get to a local munch and meet people. I think the more you live in this fantasy world, the harder it will be for you to wake up from it and actually do anything in the realm of having a real relationship. As much as you reassure us she is a female and from India, you really don't know that or you wouldn't have repeated it so many times. I know PLENTY of people who have been outed for pretending to be something online that they're not and they sound and act exactly as the characters they portray. A model sued a man for using her photos to get thousands of men and have phone sex with them under the pretense it was her. It wasn't until she got hate mail she knew anything was going on. You know she may not be real or you wouldn't have let this thing ride out as long as you have.
Taking that first step into the real world is your decision but essentially right now it has gone from getting your kicks online with someone you seem to connect with to having a romantic relationship with your laptop. Respectfully part ways with this person unless you plan on meeting face to face (and with "her" not wanting to even speak on the phone or show her face, unlikely).
I have a friend in India, one of my best in fact. But I have had HUMAN connections with him. Not just text on the screen. The fact you even started a thread lamenting over this is very telling. Self examination is needed.

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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/2/2014 12:26:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: shiftyw

It's a man. 100%.
take your stories and get 'em published instead.
You are wasting your time. Be more patient and less desperate.


I am not deperate at all. If i was, i wouldnt have stuck on with her for so long with perserverance. I would have taken some other path. Anyway I really feel gutted hearing your opinions that she may be a HE. I really dont know. Only she can clear this once & for all, which is exactly not happening & the crux of the problem.

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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/2/2014 12:38:38 AM   
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Subbie dude, don't you have any friends you could discuss this with?

If so, they should smack you upside the head for being so gullible and letting yourself be so vulnerable that you continue a fantasy with someone who you have never seen or spoken to.

It's really sad.

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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/2/2014 12:58:42 AM   
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Subbie dude, don't you have any friends you could discuss this with?

If so, they should smack you upside the head for being so gullible and letting yourself be so vulnerable that you continue a fantasy with someone who you have never seen or spoken to.

It's really sad.


Hmmm I was too naive. Unfortunately I didnt discuss this or had no guts to discuss this with my friends. All my friends are vanilla. I thought if i selflessly serve her, she might one day indeed reward me. But i waited & waited that never happened. But she was always good to me, wished me good, happiness etc Also I have no doubt that she is an Indian. So there is a huge difference in Indian culture & western culture or ideas of kink. So naturally i too believed that she is scared of coming out and it will take some time.....

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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/2/2014 1:00:05 AM   
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You need to move on, really. Find someone serious about meeting.

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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/2/2014 1:07:41 AM   
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You need to move on, really. Find someone serious about meeting.


Thank you for your advice. Appreciate it.

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RE: URGENT-Need Guidance & Help Please - 11/2/2014 1:15:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GoddessManko

quote:

ORIGINAL: subbiedude

Hello,

This is a bit lengthy, pardon me, but i had to write a bit detail just to give a perspective.

I need an advice or guidance from expirienced fellow kinksters. I am in a dillemma, my problem is this. I have been chatting with a dominant female for about more than 1.5 yrs now. she is from India & from chatting what i make out is, she is a very good person & kind. However I have never seen her, either a picture of her or in person nor i have heard her voice. She has also not seen me, as i have not shared my pic with her (I refrain from sharing my pic online due to safety concerns). She has not asked me to share my pic either.
I started to really love her more than myself. However even at this stage I had not seen or heard her voice. It was love at no sight at all !!!!

One day I confessed her, that I liked her, she was neither taken aback nor surprised, she was supportive of my feelings. I even went onto talk about marriage at one point (Very premature in hindsight I guess). She simply said she wanted me to continue entertaining her over online & in due time she would take it to next level & She will decide when it will happen.

This went on for quite a some time. One fine day I asked her to atleast meet me in a public place or cam chat (Even without a face) or mic chat over net. She simply refused saying that she will do it on her own terms & not under the terms of a sub. I conceded.
Then again It went onto many more days & months, My feeling & urge, addiction, yearning towards her grew more & more during this course of time.

I badly wanted to see her or lets say curious to see her. However she declined my request repeatedly.I was curious to know about the person for whom i was spending my time & energy. But thats when our equation started to go worse, She was frustrated & blocked me. But since I was so addicted to her, it was difficult for me to take that. (WTF)

I again somehow approached her, She was kind hearted enough to oblige my request. (again, WTF) I requested her to let me be a friend, She was ok with that. She was more of a friend this time. Infact very good friend. but still no meeting nor seeing eachother.

With her consent I came to an agreement that i can go ahead and search for a suitable life partner for me. Post this i've spent lot of time trying to find a friend. However i miserably failed to find a suitable person. At this same point i was getting pressure to settle down in life from my parents also, but I didnt want to marry a vanilla person either. I was very frustrated, confused, Thats when i turned back to this friend again & I asked her for guidance.

She adviced me to not to marry vanilla person, keep on searching until i get a soulmate or I can come back again (She has good opinion about me as a person as she knows me very well after being chatting for so long). (Yes, ruining your life is a clear sign she cares)She said i can comeback again but this time, I have to give up all my control & truly submit to her. I agreed, but again I begged her to meet me just once in public place before i can fully give up my control to her. But again she simply refused.

I humbly told her that, I was afraid to fully give up my control, because i feel vulnerable and not safe. I told her, kindly meet me once in public place, so that i can feel i am in right place under right person. so that i can feel comfortable, But she simply said, "I dont have to prove myself". (TELL ME AGAIN HOW SHE'S A GOOD PERSON?)

Now after chatting with this person for quite a some time my heart says she is a good person, but since I have not seen her, my head says i should meet her atleast once before fully dedicating my time & energy towards her again. Its not like i am doubting her, its just i want to reinforce my belief that i am with right person.

Finally I have asked her to give me couple of days of time to decide abt my future for which she has agreed.

Now i request the fellow kinksters to advice me what should i do? I am confused....Help me guys....


Based on what I highlighted, I can say, I am confused too. OK, so you fell into the online fantasy barbarella trap where she is the Domme of your dreams and you get to live out your submissive fantasies while playing it safe offline. Sounds like typical finsub stuff. However you are saying you love this faceless entity more than yourself. You are investing an unhealthy amount of time and emotional investment into a road leading nowhere. I'm sure she was wonderful for you and vice versa but you need to get off this hamster wheel sometime. What has you convinced you cannot have a discreet D/s relationship with a woman offline? Get to a local munch and meet people. I think the more you live in this fantasy world, the harder it will be for you to wake up from it and actually do anything in the realm of having a real relationship. As much as you reassure us she is a female and from India, you really don't know that or you wouldn't have repeated it so many times. I know PLENTY of people who have been outed for pretending to be something online that they're not and they sound and act exactly as the characters they portray. A model sued a man for using her photos to get thousands of men and have phone sex with them under the pretense it was her. It wasn't until she got hate mail she knew anything was going on. You know she may not be real or you wouldn't have let this thing ride out as long as you have.
Taking that first step into the real world is your decision but essentially right now it has gone from getting your kicks online with someone you seem to connect with to having a romantic relationship with your laptop. Respectfully part ways with this person unless you plan on meeting face to face (and with "her" not wanting to even speak on the phone or show her face, unlikely).
I have a friend in India, one of my best in fact. But I have had HUMAN connections with him. Not just text on the screen. The fact you even started a thread lamenting over this is very telling. Self examination is needed.


Thank you GoddessManko for your advice. Its true, when it started, it started as a fantasy, but gradually it was beyond fantasies or masturbations. I never had any real encounters with kinky people in my life, mainly because of fear. But in this case, My gut & love feeling overcame my fears & i asked her for a meet, but destiny has something else in stores i guess....

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