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Musicmystery -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 5:51:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Oh yay

Another rude Obamacare surprise awaits

That's 26 cents a day. I'm pretty sure Americans won't go bankrupt.

Just part of the Democrats secret plan to take all the poor's money so the minimum wage will have to be raised.





Aylee -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 5:58:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Oh yay

Another rude Obamacare surprise awaits

That's 26 cents a day. I'm pretty sure Americans won't go bankrupt.

Just part of the Democrats secret plan to take all the poor's money so the minimum wage will have to be raised.




I did not see that figure, but I will take your word that you did the math. Frankly, poor Americans are almost bankrupt. This is who it will be hitting. But then again, who really cares about the poor?




Musicmystery -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 6:01:13 PM)

....or that they can't get health insurance. Oh...wait....




Sanity -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 6:06:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Oh yay

Another rude Obamacare surprise awaits

That's 26 cents a day. I'm pretty sure Americans won't go bankrupt.

Just part of the Democrats secret plan to take all the poor's money so the minimum wage will have to be raised.




Starting at $96 per year for the poorest who have to pay the left's tax penalty fine for breathing, and it goes up from there

And everyone pays more in time, thats just to start

Ive got to hand it to you though, no one is more generous with other peoples' money than leftists




Musicmystery -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 6:07:59 PM)

"Up from there" means "those who aren't the poorest.

But yes, those poor people will now have to face the harsh world with health insurance.

It's a tragedy, to be sure. I'm surprised they aren't rioting.




Sanity -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 6:13:57 PM)

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....or that they can't get health insurance. Oh...wait....


You mean forced to buy "insurance" from Obamas big insurance cronys right

So hiz boys down ta da IRS dont pay youse a visit

If'n ya git my drift

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/18/us/politics/health-law-turns-obama-and-insurers-into-allies.html?_r=0

Edited to replace the incorrect link










Musicmystery -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 6:15:54 PM)

Right. Because Republicans aren't in the insurance business.

Tell me -- why did the Republicans just defeat a bill to reign in the NSA?




Sanity -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 6:16:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

"Up from there" means "those who aren't the poorest.

But yes, those poor people will now have to face the harsh world with health insurance.

It's a tragedy, to be sure. I'm surprised they aren't rioting.


By "up from there" the law says that in time the tax fine penalties go up for everyone

Thats just the first year for Joon Grubers poor stupid suckers




Sanity -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 6:17:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Right. Because Republicans aren't in the insurance business.

Tell me -- why did the Republicans just defeat a bill to reign in the NSA?


Read the article THEN comment




Musicmystery -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 6:17:50 PM)

Poor insured bastards.

They'll regret this every time they need health care.




Sanity -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 6:21:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Poor insured bastards.

They'll regret this every time they need health care.


Who didnt get to keep their doctor or insurance as promised

Who were promised reductions of $2500 but saw increases instead

Who were blatantly, ADMITTEDLY lied to




Sanity -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 6:24:04 PM)


The whole thing, all of Obamacare is based on lies

Still, leftist elitists proudly defend their widely hated 'accomplishment'




Musicmystery -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 6:25:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Poor insured bastards.

They'll regret this every time they need health care.


Who didnt get to keep their doctor or insurance as promised

Who were promised reductions of $2500 but saw increases instead

Who were blatantly, ADMITTEDLY lied to

Well then they won't be paying that penalty if they have insurance.

I kept my doctor and insurance and rates.

Maybe some of you need shopping instruction.




Musicmystery -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 6:26:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


The whole thing, all of Obamacare is based on lies

Still, leftist elitists proudly defend their widely hated 'accomplishment'

First they're poor, then they're elitists. [8|]

Not unlike the Republican Oligarchs who figure *they* should be the dictators.




Aylee -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 6:30:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

....or that they can't get health insurance. Oh...wait....


The article clearly stated that it was the poor that this would be hurting because they would not know about it and know how to navigate the exchange systems.




Sanity -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 6:32:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Poor insured bastards.

They'll regret this every time they need health care.


Who didnt get to keep their doctor or insurance as promised

Who were promised reductions of $2500 but saw increases instead

Who were blatantly, ADMITTEDLY lied to

Well then they won't be paying that penalty if they have insurance.

I kept my doctor and insurance and rates.

Maybe some of you need shopping instruction.


You got a big fat taxpayer teat in your mouth then, I'll wager




Sanity -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 6:33:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee

The article clearly stated that it was the poor that this would be hurting because they would not know about it and know how to navigate the exchange systems.



The far right TEA party rag that it is... [;)]




Musicmystery -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 6:35:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

....or that they can't get health insurance. Oh...wait....


The article clearly stated that it was the poor that this would be hurting because they would not know about it and know how to navigate the exchange systems.

He's not talking about the article -- he's compiling his straw man scenarios. And if they have health insurance already, they aren't paying the penalty for not having it. See how that works? They get to keep their 26 cents a day.

I wonder where they'll invest that 26 cents. Global equities? REITs? Maybe oil futures.




Musicmystery -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 6:36:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


You got a big fat taxpayer teat in your mouth then, I'll wager

Logic has never been your strong suit.




Aylee -> RE: Deliberate Obamacare "lack of transparency" (11/18/2014 7:29:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

....or that they can't get health insurance. Oh...wait....


The article clearly stated that it was the poor that this would be hurting because they would not know about it and know how to navigate the exchange systems.

He's not talking about the article -- he's compiling his straw man scenarios. And if they have health insurance already, they aren't paying the penalty for not having it. See how that works? They get to keep their 26 cents a day.

I wonder where they'll invest that 26 cents. Global equities? REITs? Maybe oil futures.


No. It is the poor. States without exchanges, the poor do not get subsidies. No expanded medicaid. Just docked on their tax.

Maybe they would have invested it into shoes for their child.




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