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ORIGINAL: YouName

Don't be stupid. You don't have hobos in a moderately successful society.


Altho now they are getting here from other places.

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I'd surely take the Hobos advice over the psychologists.

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See to me, that "BDSM Therapy" stuff is a crock of shit and would make me not care about the characters, cause I don't relate.

QFT. Relationship partners aren't therapists. Even if they are in their day jobs, it's unethical to practice on your partner. If her husband really cared about her, he'd find her a therapist to help her learn to manage alone. Not hand her over like a car he was selling where the possibility exists that in a month he'll resell the car or crash it.

And yeah, stating that the only reason a woman would bottom or sub is because she's fucked up would get my back up too.

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I spend no thought on you neither, just interesting to note!
On a note, so was the rest of that post ET


Hey Des, I'm glad it keeps working out for you.
I do have one question if you will allow me to be brunt.

Would you keep going to a dentist whom you had to visit all the time to keep the toothache away?
Fine, maybe those teeth keep getting holes in them, but you could just stop drinking that coke then.

So because therapy takes more time and visits to a professional than a single trip to fill a tooth..... That obviously means it doesn't work and it's not worth it?

Just because a treatment takes a longer period of regular active care doesn't mean it doesn't work. Have you ever needed an extended period of PT?

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One big problem with therapy, is that it is not terribly difficult to successfully lie to someone who knows you little enough to be objective.

While your friends and partners may be less objective, they can see through, and call, your bullshit more readily.

Therapy only works if you accept the need to be completely open and vulnerable. Some people can only get there with a stranger... but if you can get there with a friend or partner who is receptive, you may get more value out of that than therapy can provide.

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ORIGINAL: YouName

I spend no thought on you neither, just interesting to note!
On a note, so was the rest of that post ET


Hey Des, I'm glad it keeps working out for you.
I do have one question if you will allow me to be brunt.

Would you keep going to a dentist whom you had to visit all the time to keep the toothache away?
Fine, maybe those teeth keep getting holes in them, but you could just stop drinking that coke then.

So because therapy takes more time and visits to a professional than a single trip to fill a tooth..... That obviously means it doesn't work and it's not worth it?

Just because a treatment takes a longer period of regular active care doesn't mean it doesn't work. Have you ever needed an extended period of PT?

One big problem with therapy, is that it is not terribly difficult to successfully lie to someone who knows you little enough to be objective.

While your friends and partners may be less objective, they can see through, and call, your bullshit more readily.

Therapy only works if you accept the need to be completely open and vulnerable. Some people can only get there with a stranger... but if you can get there with a friend or partner who is receptive, you may get more value out of that than therapy can provide.

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ORIGINAL: Bhruic

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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

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ORIGINAL: YouName

I spend no thought on you neither, just interesting to note!
On a note, so was the rest of that post ET


Hey Des, I'm glad it keeps working out for you.
I do have one question if you will allow me to be brunt.

Would you keep going to a dentist whom you had to visit all the time to keep the toothache away?
Fine, maybe those teeth keep getting holes in them, but you could just stop drinking that coke then.

So because therapy takes more time and visits to a professional than a single trip to fill a tooth..... That obviously means it doesn't work and it's not worth it?

Just because a treatment takes a longer period of regular active care doesn't mean it doesn't work. Have you ever needed an extended period of PT?

One big problem with therapy, is that it is not terribly difficult to successfully lie to someone who knows you little enough to be objective.

While your friends and partners may be less objective, they can see through, and call, your bullshit more readily.

Therapy only works if you accept the need to be completely open and vulnerable. Some people can only get there with a stranger... but if you can get there with a friend or partner who is receptive, you may get more value out of that than therapy can provide.

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ORIGINAL: YouName

Well not even that's completely true. You've got different types of therapies. For example with CBT or even more so BT there's really no meaning in emptying your innermost thoughts.

Sick shit like Freudian bullshit should be buried beneath the frozen ground of hell and never thought of again. But even there you are induced to telling your inner most feelings and thoughts through various forms of what I would call manipulation to get you to for example use a defence mechanism at a certain point to thus be able to crudely point to the use of such.

But most therapies aren't really bad...they are just missing the point.
I'm sure peoples dependency on them will just grow with services such as Facebook and Google growing and penetrating peoples lives to the point where a wall so high is drawn between the private and the public that no friend or acquaintance can climb over it.
Vive le Self - Promotion.

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ORIGINAL: HeartAndSoul31

I suspect it depends on the hobo, the bag and the stick he is toting. I mean that could trigger me listening to a hobo. He probably knows things I don't know. The hobo might be wiser then the therapist. As I said really depends on the hobo. Maybe he can fix a car too. That's a talented hobo.

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Would you keep going to a dentist whom you had to visit all the time to keep the toothache away?
Fine, maybe those teeth keep getting holes in them, but you could just stop drinking that coke then.

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ORIGINAL: smileforme50

Yes.....therapy only works if you accept the need to be completely open and vulnerable.....but if someone can't accept that, then wtf are they doing going to therapy to begin with?

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And you are totally incorrect about how easy it is to scam a top quality clinical psychiatrist. Hell, even the social workers I know would see through you after just a couple of years in business.

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Would you keep going to a dentist whom you had to visit all the time to keep the toothache away?
Fine, maybe those teeth keep getting holes in them, but you could just stop drinking that coke then.

I have acidic saliva so I'm on a four month cleaning and checking cycle. I don't drink a lot of soda, maybe once a day. But I can't change my saliva.

However the analogy does not hold. It would hold a lot better if you weren't asking about a check up and filling one cavity. If we were talking periodontal disease which takes years to get really bad and then lots of visits and major work to repair. I've had my jawbone reshaped for that. And I floss nightly because of it. It doesn't matter what I do, I'm still prone to periodontal disease.

You also are overlooking, or perhaps deliberately ignoring the fact that many people go to therapists because of genetic diseases they cannot fix. I'm fourth generation mood disorder. My daughter and her cousins are fifth generation. Therapy provides us the ability to learn over time the coping skills we could not learn when we were ill. The symptoms are lifted by the medications that have developed since the 90s, and some only in the last decade.

When there were no medications to lift suicidal depression and you spent every day trying to find the energy just to shower, then you could not also learn social skills that normal, healthy people learned growing up. You learn those skills in school simply by interacting with other students. That's 12 years, 6 hours a day, 5 days a week, 44 weeks a year. Three or four years at one hour a week is a tiny amount of time to learn all those skills that you healthy people learned effortlessly in a great deal more time. Over 15,000 hours instead of 150. Viewed from this perspective, that three years is nothing.

And you are totally incorrect about how easy it is to scam a top quality clinical psychiatrist. Hell, even the social workers I know would see through you after just a couple of years in business.

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I suspect it depends on the hobo, the bag and the stick he is toting. I mean that could trigger me listening to a hobo. He probably knows things I don't know. The hobo might be wiser then the therapist. As I said really depends on the hobo. Maybe he can fix a car too. That's a talented hobo.

Naturally. Of course if said hobo is your friend he, by logical deduction, should be a clinical psychologist as well... or dentist, or zoologist, the uses of hobo's are unlimited. I think they get a bad wrap.