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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/29/2014 8:57:03 AM

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People who learn English as a second language tend to have better grammar than do native English speakers who only know English. This includes: more accurate use of subjunctive, better matching between singular/plural pronouns and singular/plural noun, more likely to type out full words instead of using text speak, and so on. It's an advantage to "learn from rules" instead of learning from the bad habits of your parents and their friends.

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/29/2014 9:44:16 AM

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It does matter to me, I feel like a bit of an arsehole sometimes because it does, because in the great scheme of things I'm not sure it's very important but I can't help it, it annoys the absolute crap out of me. My grammar isn't perfect but I do try and I expect other people to too. I appreciate attention to detail and someone who has self-discipline and I think it's pretty sloppy to have reached a certain age and not know how to use basic grammar (unless there is a valid reason). It makes me want to correct them all of the time and I feel like a dick for correcting people over such nonsense. I also don't want to be put in the role where I 'have to' correct other people.

The worst ones for me are lose and loose, your and you're and capitalising random words, they bring out the headmistress in me every time and I don't want to be a headmistress. I don't mind being picked up on my own grammar though, I quite like it actually. Having a headmaster is much more fun than being a headmistress.

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/29/2014 9:51:38 AM

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If you want to be my headmistress, your grammar won't matter.

Question, though: Are you any good at giving head? Or will you need a great deal of training? (Not that I mind, mind you.)

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/29/2014 10:38:14 AM

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If you don't have good grammar, by god, you better have some big tits.

And you can quote me.

Do we get extra Super Secret Squirrel points, if we've got both of those qualities????????

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/29/2014 1:31:44 PM

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If you don't have good grammar, by god, you better have some big tits.

And you can quote me.

Do we get extra Super Secret Squirrel points, if we've got both of those qualities????????

Ron did say *some* big tits, Blonderfluff. if you've only got two, that doesn't count, I'm afraid.

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/29/2014 5:52:46 PM

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Grammar is a basic skill in communication. Using the correct tense, spelling, punctuation or prose says alot about how you convey yourself to and influences how you are perceived by others. Having said that, it's accepted there are a variety of tools people use to communicate with online. For the sake of expediency or as a result of a passionate moment not all grammar will be perfect when I write. I use my phone often and switching from screen to screen for the right character or to edit can be a pita most of the time. My vote is where grammar is important, it's not always a true representation of a persons intelligence as written online. One thing though and this is a peeve of mine, when you speak to others try not to sound ignorant. I'm amazed at the lack of speaking skills portrayed in the streets, on television, in schools, etc. To add, I'm appalled profanity when put to music makes millionaires and blasted publicly without regard to age or innocence of non consensual listeners has become the norm. Another thing.......! Lord, I'd better stop before I hijack this thread and climb higher on this shaky soapbox

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/29/2014 6:00:23 PM

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/29/2014 6:11:53 PM

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If you don't have good grammar, by god, you better have some big tits.

And you can quote me.

Do we get extra Super Secret Squirrel points, if we've got both of those qualities????????

Ron did say *some* big tits, Blonderfluff. if you've only got two, that doesn't count, I'm afraid.

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/29/2014 6:23:55 PM

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If you don't have good grammar, by god, you better have some big tits.

And you can quote me.

Do we get extra Super Secret Squirrel points, if we've got both of those qualities????????

Ron did say *some* big tits, Blonderfluff. if you've only got two, that doesn't count, I'm afraid.

This one don't need no stinkin' grammar.

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/29/2014 6:28:16 PM

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jk looked to fast

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/29/2014 6:33:08 PM

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This boils down to personal preference.

For me, the attempt at good grammar is important. After all, you wouldn't show up at a first date looking like a slob.

I agree it is a personal preference.

It is the person who matters to me, not the grammar. :)

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/29/2014 6:55:17 PM

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Because I have both English and French heritage I'm bilingual. I learnt all my French from relatives apart from a few years in a French school. English school children are taught correct Parisian French and when they come to France they don't understand what people are saying because the French generally don't speak properly like they do

Isn't a lot of new French slang influenced by Arabic, due to recent immigration? That's a pretty different language from either French or English. Le Verlan, by contrast, reminds me of English rhyming slang, except in the 21st century when everyone is two-fingered typing to their friends and lovers. So to play around with the language, type backwards.

That said, my French sucks.

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/29/2014 7:36:00 PM

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This boils down to personal preference.

For me, the attempt at good grammar is important. After all, you wouldn't show up at a first date looking like a slob.

I agree it is a personal preference.

It is the person who matters to me, not the grammar. :)

While the person does matter to me, they have a chance of nattering more if they speak and write in an appropriate manner.

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/29/2014 7:44:56 PM

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This boils down to personal preference.

For me, the attempt at good grammar is important. After all, you wouldn't show up at a first date looking like a slob.

I agree it is a personal preference.

It is the person who matters to me, not the grammar. :)

While the person does matter to me, they have a chance of nattering more if they speak and write in an appropriate manner.

Typo? Which I confess is causing me to giggle.

I stand by my statement with no qualifications. I guess you just had to be there to understand. ;)

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/30/2014 8:25:11 AM

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Isn't a lot of new French slang influenced by Arabic, due to recent immigration? That's a pretty different language from either French or English. Le Verlan, by contrast, reminds me of English rhyming slang, except in the 21st century when everyone is two-fingered typing to their friends and lovers. So to play around with the language, type backwards.

That said, my French sucks.

Yes, that too; but dialect and relaxed/informal pronunciation that varies from region to region is what catches foreigners out. For example, in foreign language school you will be taught to say, " je ne sais pas" and of course the French will understand you when you say that to them but you may hear them say, “ch'ais pas” (same meaning) which isn't something you have probably learnt in your very correct language class. The French are very good at abbreviating words and rolling one into another and this tends to leave a lot of English tourists lost. The French have the same problem when learning English; whilst they learn to say, "Its good isn't it?" they will probably hear "good init?" or "Its not bad eh?" whilst in the UK.

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/30/2014 2:08:39 PM

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without reading all the responses, someones grammar doesn't matter as long I can figure out what they are saying.... a lot of people don't know the English language very well... face it the English language is hard to learn....

too many words with the same sound but different meanings and written different.... just saying

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/30/2014 2:28:20 PM

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This boils down to personal preference.

For me, the attempt at good grammar is important. After all, you wouldn't show up at a first date looking like a slob.

I agree it is a personal preference.

It is the person who matters to me, not the grammar. :)

While the person does matter to me, they have a chance of nattering more if they speak and write in an appropriate manner.

Typo? Which I confess is causing me to giggle.

I stand by my statement with no qualifications. I guess you just had to be there to understand. ;)

Oh hush...

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/30/2014 4:52:53 PM

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I am less concerned with grammar than I am with text speak.

If you write me with UR or L8R I cannot deal with you.

You are too lazy or too young for me.

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/30/2014 6:40:00 PM

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I am less concerned with grammar than I am with text speak.

If you write me with UR or L8R I cannot deal with you.

You are too lazy or too young for me.

Wat r u sayn, grl?

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RE: Does grammar matter to you? - 11/30/2014 7:09:20 PM

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For me it depends if it is written or spoken grammar. Spoken grammar is much more important, I'm able to look past horrific spelling and a lack of grammar. Malapropisms, double negatives and generally lazy speaking makes my brain cringe. Maybe I'm a snob? I was raised by an English teacher who had been raised by an English teacher. We weren't allowed to say 'yeah' as kids, it had to be 'yes'.

I've gotten a lot lazier as I've gotten older, and also less picky. When typing I'm not great with punctuation, it slows down my fingers lol. And I begin sentences with 'and' a lot! Maybe in another decade I'll be more forgiving with the spoken word as well.

Good grammar isn't an exact measure of intelligence, intellectually I know that but emotionally a well spoken person is more attractive to me.

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