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Greta75 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/2/2014 8:27:23 PM)

The salad leaves that I am dumping in my ham and cheese toastie this morning are imported from freaking Italy!!, The other end of the earth! But I swear they taste so much better than the ones imported from Australia. I wonder why we don't just freaking grow our own salad locally so I don't have pay stupid prices for them! Ugh!
I tried growing my own arugula though, major failure, the internet keeps saying it grows like weed. Not true! It keeps dying. Tried to grow my own vegetables once, tomatoes too, as basically, that's all I need to be happy, arugula, tomatoes, and some boccocini. I could eat that everyday for the rest of my life and never get sick.



shiftyw -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/2/2014 8:30:24 PM)

Yes, my CSA ended cause its winter here and I have to buy produce at the store rather than locally...

I'm sad about it.



Greta75 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/2/2014 8:32:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: shiftyw

Today I ate an apple for breakfast
I had a tortilla with hummus for lunch and a salad on the side with goat cheese, a few croutons, and oil/vinegar dressing.
I had a string cheese for a snack.
Then I had a lean beef burger in tomato sauce and a cup of white rice (I would've liked brown but my mom was cooking)

Tomorrow I'm having:
Breakfast: Smoothie
Lunch: I don't know yet because I have to go out to a meeting- I'll probably get a veggie sandwich wherever we are.
Dinner: My polenta I mentioned- with the taco meat I mentioned in it, onions, hot peppers, cilantro, avocado on top

Day after that...
Breakfast: Scrambled eggs (local!), turkey sausage from applegate farms, probably with cheese on top?
Lunch: "burrito bowl"- taco meat, with avocado, brown rice, salsa, onions, peppers
Dinner: Maybe a whole wheat pasta with pesto or our tomato sauce (which we also make ourselves)



My breakfast is usually a feast! Looks like you are a light morning eater!

It's not uncommon for my breakfast to be coconut rice, anchovies, huge fried chicken drumstick, fishcake, egg, and curry cabbage. IF I ate out. But at home, like today, just ham and cheese crusty grilled on my george foreman! I try to skip dinner with great difficulty! Or eat it very early.

I tried to even make carbonara with whole wheat pasta once, and it still didn't taste good cloak in my favourite most evil sauce together with loads of bacon. Whole wheat pasta, and brown rice, really tough stuffs for me to get into, as much as it's healthier. So I admire anybody who can dig into them like they are yummies!



Greta75 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/2/2014 8:48:45 PM)

This is what I am eating right now! Just added greens to feel better about it ha! But I really love that salad mix, with spinach and arugula plentiful!




shiftyw -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/2/2014 9:04:36 PM)

It depends on the time of year...
Its complicated to explain- but right now our restaurant is seasonal- so we are closed and just filling mail orders with our food products.

I wear a lot of hats. but when I'm doing computer work at a desk all day- I usually eat a lighter breakfast. In the summer- when I'm waitressing or managering or baking and I don't really know when I'll get a lunch break- my breakfasts are usually a bit more substantial.



starkem -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/2/2014 10:45:14 PM)

Today, I had the avocado with a slight hint of balsamic vinegar.; two organic untaxed apples with skin,; and one small shot of vodka. I don't feel hungry albeit there is enough fat in an avocado to be dangerously close to arterie damage.

I was just reading where oil of any kind (and i was liking sesame, extra virgin olive oil and oregano oil for their therapeutic properties) will tear up your arteries. There is so much information out here that it will be quite daunting to review. In my estimation, the peer review journals are good, but they have systematically codemned ALL FOODS for people with chronic health issues -particularly chronic diseases. The information on the books is no better in this regard.

I therefore agree that everything in moderation, but I add this one caveat: be prepared for the consequences. If there is any consolation to this warning, be assured that they have to put something on your death certificate whether you are the worst, moderate or the healthiest eater in the world.



Greta75 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/2/2014 11:01:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: starkem

Today, I had the avocado with a slight hint of balsamic vinegar.; two organic untaxed apples with skin,; and one small shot of vodka. I don't feel hungry albeit there is enough fat in an avocado to be dangerously close to arterie damage.

Is that breakfast?? That actually sounds very healthy! 1 serving of alcohol a day is actually good for health too. As long as it's just one serving. Thins the arteries, and prevents heart attack.
Gosh, if I ate that, I'd be starving in less than 1 hour again hehe!



starkem -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 12:11:34 AM)

Lol, Greta75, alcohol is a taboo appetite suppressant. It does actually thin the blood. It is not the reason that I indulge, but it is had metabolic properties in this regard. Others will argue differently. Digestion changes a lot of the accepted variables. Al carbs break down to sugars in the body. I may not be totally right but you know what i am talking about. However, all sugars like sweet fruit break down easily in the body and pose no threat of any condition. I do love my pastas though. The underlying threat to all foods is how they break down in the human body. Your mileage may vary. There were days in my youth when I needed no such taboo, but time will address all those that are not adherent.

As to my avocado excursion from said diet (because of the omega-3 content), I put salt and black pepper on it. The salt because no M.d. can deter me from its medicinal use in moderation. What they are looking at is the the ability to digest in a way that retains fluid and causes complications to congestive heart failure. If we take, for second that all therapeutic prognosis that is partly based upon bad news of a physical terminal illness, we have nothing to lose. Stay positive, stay humorous to some degree and defy any notion that vegetables are bad for you. Take in mind that we are commissioned to moderation because of the abnormally of disease. We believe that disease is caused by dietary habits. Moreover, your raisin d'être (or reason for living) can be like bugs bunny with a dripping cheeseburger of grease in his hand, saying "meh...what's up doc?". That is why Barbara Streisand resonates with people with terminal illness. I might not make it, but a star is born honey! LOL

as to the OP, TREAD CAREFULLY, doctors have a protocol that is usually not wrong. Think of your Kitchen as a big Dominate medicine cabinet that can heal you or kill you. Today, I had to cook nothing or prepare a meal. I just ate what was forbidden. Most of the flavors were not to my liking as a person that loves cooking, but they will disgust quickly. Therein lies the key to all health or recovery as I believe.

My 3 uncles lived, respectively, to 100; 103; 107, (one is stll alive) eating a steady course of carbs from Ferina (without cane or glasses in Barbados). You can't do that, because it is a different lifestyle. All of the counterpart women here in America are mostly dead. I change my original conclusion in reflection, it is adaptation that is your best friend. Fast food is not an adaptation, it is an evolutional convince causing great harm, because it tastes good. Hugs.

Oh, my point, my mother was dying because of congestive heart failure, having never smoked or even tasted alcohol. The woman that drove her to the hospital every day, swore me to secrecy as a religious person: "don't tell yor mother that I take one shot of rum everyday, the church won't like that.". She was 92 then; she has to be 97 now and still kicking (as i have kept in contact with her, and she is still driving to boot).

Everything starts in the mind. find closure for your mind. I am not supporting alcohol; I am supporting the adventurous. If you think something is forbidden (like I do with pork), then your doctors, your diet, and your advisors will have committed the greatest indecency -all in the name of want they know (or have sworn to). Give yourself a chance, but be gravely honest and the addiction will have no more power over you!



starkem -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 12:17:38 AM)

Damn, I didn't answer the question. That is my meal for the day. It is rare that people break their fast in the morning in Islamic cultures. Some do however, but I am not Islamic or religious. I borrow things from other adherents to ancesoory rituals and practices. It may be why I am so depressed. LOL. Not that they are wrong, but I find it hard to adapt to certain things (like greasy breakfast in my childhood.). I am no fool though. I still love the smell of beacon in the morning. I just don't indulge. Hopefully that will help someone dealing with addictions of food.



LittleGirlHeart -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 2:15:02 AM)

Carls jr, Taco bell, DelTaco Churches Chicken etc. Anything that ta k es under oh say 5/10 minutes depending on the item. Hence it being called fast, cuz it's fast to get.


Sit down restaurant are not fast, but the salads are not healthy for you. Just look at the nutrition stats, they're usually high sodium, high calorie high fat.

A mixed bag of salad greens and carrots an stuff is very cheap, like 2 bucks, and advocado 2$ for two and cucumber is like a buck or two tomato is cheap and we usually grow our own. A head of lettuce is only a couple cents.I just don't normally eat enough fresh food for fresh stuff not to go to waste. Which obviously is a good first change.
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ORIGINAL: Greta75

By the way, what's the American definition of fast food?
When I think fast food, I am thinking only of like Macdonalds and similiar types. Burger and fries milkshake, type of food.

But take-away salad is not fast food to me. There should be alot of take-away salads out there right? With vinagrette dressing instead of mayonnaise based dressing. If that is cheap to buy over there, not bad eating out everyday. Salads are unaffordable here, it's luxury food, so I seldom can afford them. Like if you go to a super market, just 125gm of salad leaves, which is just enough for one meal is about $8. So it's a huge expense to eat that. But of course, we have our chinese dark green leafy that is dirt cheap to eat everyday, except, they can't be eaten raw like salads. And nothing beats raw vegetables for health reasons as well as low calorie intake.

By the time we stir-fry our green leafys, it's as good as eating deep fried chicken.






LittleGirlHeart -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 2:28:21 AM)

Yes, it's very important to have days where you allow a few strictly pleasure days. Otherwise it's very easy to feel deprived, or overwhelmed and give up.

When I was on a plan that made to many changes to fast, and was more alined with someone with more skills in understanding lables an shit than I did, I began to be afraid of getting it wrong, so I wouldn't eat till I was shaking and weak , desperate for food and crying. Then , understandably, I was ravenous and attacked what ever I ate, over eating or just shoving easy junk like an entire pack of crackers an pb down.


It's not nessacarily my goal to loose weight, though that will happen, my goal is to make smarter choices, and control food, not have it control me(as it does now)
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ORIGINAL: littleladybug


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

In my opinion the way to loose weight is to eat what you want... just control the portions. When you start loosing weight you will find it encouraging and it will be easier to continue. THEN and only then when you have control of your weight and desires... experiment with eating more healthy.

Butch


Agreed. If you want to have a lifetime change, the key is *not* to have "foods that you will never eat again". I know, for me, that tactic never works. Of course, I'm going to have a burger every now and then. And damned straight that I'll have it with bacon and cheese, with a helping of fries on the side. Key is "every now and then".

I was having this discussion with my mom over Thanksgiving. While I understand not having mashed potatoes for specific dietary reasons, I never understood "substituting" parsnip puree or some such simply for caloric reasons. Psychologically, I think that is really detrimental. Yes, eat healthy...find what you like to eat in that vein, and eat it. But, honestly? If you liked mashed potatoes...isn't Thanksgiving the time to do it?

Yeah...spaghetti squash is good...but it isn't a permanent substitute for the real stuff.

The key, IMO, is to find a style of eating that you can *live* with. We all can lose weight in the short term...the key is, what happens in the long run?




LittleGirlHeart -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 2:53:11 AM)

Not recently. Yes, I have bipolar, with more high manics than lows, but I do get depressed now and again.
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ORIGINAL: shiftyw

Also OP- and I know I'm like a broken record with this everyone, but...- have you had your thyroid levels checked?

If I recall correctly you have a mood disorder? craving salt (in the form of fast food), and needing to lose weight- for me- were all symptoms of a hidden thyroid problem.




LittleGirlHeart -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 2:59:07 AM)

I think whole wheat pasta is positivly nasty Greta.


I tried to even make carbonara with whole wheat pasta once, and it still didn't taste good cloak in my favourite most evil sauce together with loads of bacon. Whole wheat pasta, and brown rice, really tough stuffs for me to get into, as much as it's healthier. So I admire anybody who can dig into them like they are yummies!
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LittleGirlHeart -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 3:01:13 AM)

This is the salad I love from his work, the top one, but I do not have the beets, tomato mushroom, nor onions put on it.http://maryspizzashack.com/soups-salads



LittleGirlHeart -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 3:14:38 AM)

Actually, I have been told by many a diatician from Diabetic classes that fruits need to eaten in Moderation, and certain things like pineapple, grapes and bannanas, are very likely to shoot your blood sugars up very high. Fruit, is a natural sugar yes, but it can be very hard on a system depending on the affects on the person.

When fruit is eaten, it's to be a very small amount per meal , like a small Apple(i think it's under 5 ounces), or a half a small apple, a half a bannana, 10 grapes, a cup of cubed watermellon, or 10 cubes is a serving size. You shouldn't to my knowledge have a huge honking orange, a cutie size would be better.

You can screw up your blood sugars by having to much fruit.
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ORIGINAL: starkem

However, all sugars like sweet fruit break down easily in the body and pose no threat of any condition.






Greta75 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 3:56:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

A mixed bag of salad greens and carrots an stuff is very cheap, like 2 bucks

WOW!!! I really love supermarket prices in the US!

The bag of imported Italian salad leaves I put in my toastie this morning cost me $8.95 for 125gms.

Tonight, I am simply grilling chicken drumlets to have with the leftover salad. Maybe I'll flash a pic when it's done! Chicken still baking.



Greta75 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 3:59:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: starkem

Lol, Greta75, alcohol is a taboo appetite suppressant.

I only wish alcohol can suppress appetite!!! If I drink, I usually eat even more! Ha! Its like eat, drink, eat, drink, non stop! But yes, I have heard of alcohol increasing metabolism too, some of my brother's friends are using alcohol(in the right quantities) for that reason. But I always feel my sports performance decline when I drink alcohol, so I usually go easy. Plus the only alcohol I drink is red wine, for anti-oxidants as well.




Greta75 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 4:07:52 AM)

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Sit down restaurant are not fast, but the salads are not healthy for you. Just look at the nutrition stats, they're usually high sodium, high calorie high fat.

Over here we have take away salad bars, where the people make the salad infront of you, so you get choice of salad leaves, and then you choose what you want in them, (all types of meat, cheeses and extra vegetables available) and what dressing you want. It's actually very very healthy. But just not cheap for me. I usually just pick feta cheese, spinach leaves and raisins, and salt and pepper, without any dressing, and I'm happy with that. I actually assume US must have the same, I mean, these salad bars are especially popular in our central business district, for busy professionals who wants a quick healthy meal. The other thing would be salad wraps which is my favourite! Just grill chicken and salad leaves in a wrap, and just salt and pepper, usually I'd choose no dressing, as the yummy dressing for wraps tend to be the mayonnaise based ones, like ranch sauce. And these salad bars, some of them go even more extreme, like whatever meat you choose, like for example, you will literally see them pick out raw chicken from the fridge and grill them infront of you, before putting it in your salad, so you know you are getting 100% fresh stuffs and no preservative. The chicken will not be marinated either, as there is a choice for that too, marinated chicken or just plain. So I wish it was more affordable, as with such places, you have full control what goes into your food. And it's take-away and someone else is cooking it! Hehe!



Greta75 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 4:12:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

Actually, I have been told by many a diatician from Diabetic classes that fruits need to eaten in Moderation, and certain things like pineapple, grapes and bannanas, are very likely to shoot your blood sugars up very high. Fruit, is a natural sugar yes, but it can be very hard on a system depending on the affects on the person.

If you are diabetic, then losing weight will seriously improve your diabetic levels, and exercise as well. This becomes more of a health issue already. Yea, you have to be very careful with whatever sugar you take. My impression of diabetes, is that it's quite serious and life threatening. As blood clots could occur anytime and all you need is one.



Greta75 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 5:02:58 AM)

My home-made dinner today, Baked Chicken drumlets with Salad, balsamic vinegar dressing, this is my idea of a yummy healthy meal. I do not eat the skin of chicken, will peel them all off. I think it will be weeks again before I cook again ha, I call this western food, then I go back to Asian, which I can easily eat out cheap, so I do.



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