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freedomdwarf1 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 6:07:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

My home-made dinner today, Baked Chicken drumlets with Salad, balsamic vinegar dressing, this is my idea of a yummy healthy meal. I do not eat the skin of chicken, will peel them all off. I think it will be weeks again before I cook again ha, I call this western food, then I go back to Asian, which I can easily eat out cheap, so I do.


You don't eat the skin, presumably because it is fattening?
Yet you'll eat feta cheese. [:-]

"This food is high in Cholesterol and Sodium, and very high in Saturated Fat."
Source: http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/18/2?quantity=1.5

As for avocado, it is 77% fats (from the same site).
Although it is considered good, it is very fatty.

Balsamic vinegar: "This food is low in Sodium, and very low in Saturated Fat. A large portion of the calories in this food come from sugars."
So just be aware that what seems to be good and healthy, isn't always as good as you think it is.

And obviously, any sort of dressing is not good for you.




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 6:12:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart
Sit down restaurant are not fast, but the salads are not healthy for you. Just look at the nutrition stats, they're usually high sodium, high calorie high fat.

LG: It's not the salads that are high in sodium, calories and fat - it's what you put in it that does that.
Adding things like avocado, dressings, cheese, oil etc is the bad bit, not the actual salad.




Greta75 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 6:22:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1
You don't eat the skin, presumably because it is fattening?
Yet you'll eat feta cheese. [:-]

Different type of fats. Feta Cheese provides me with calcium, which we Asians are extremely lacking in our natural diet. So I try to eat as much things with calcium as possible, but I hate cow's milk, so I try to take soy milk, cheese, and yogurt. I know cheese and yogurt is from cow's milk, but they taste better after converting. Whereas, there is no extra nutritional value in a chicken skin but fat. So it's a useless calorie to eat. And I don't enjoy the taste of chicken skin that much as I like the flesh anyway. I am also on probiotic pills and they say cheese feeds the good bacteria and help them grow in numbers.



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And obviously, any sort of dressing is not good for you.

Vinaigrette dressing has sugar? Hmm..., come to think of it, it's like almost oxidized grape juice, but still healthier than any other type of dressing for calories.
The other healthy dressing I love is to simply squeeze fresh lemon juice onto my salads. Hell, if I indulge in french fries, I also like squeezing fresh lemon juice onto it, as it tastes better.




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 7:09:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1
You don't eat the skin, presumably because it is fattening?
Yet you'll eat feta cheese. [:-]

Different type of fats. Feta Cheese provides me with calcium, which we Asians are extremely lacking in our natural diet. So I try to eat as much things with calcium as possible, but I hate cow's milk, so I try to take soy milk, cheese, and yogurt. I know cheese and yogurt is from cow's milk, but they taste better after converting. Whereas, there is no extra nutritional value in a chicken skin but fat. So it's a useless calorie to eat. And I don't enjoy the taste of chicken skin that much as I like the flesh anyway. I am also on probiotic pills and they say cheese feeds the good bacteria and help them grow in numbers.

You really buy into that media hype??

My diabetic dietician warned me that these 'probiotic' things are nothing more than a marketing gimmick.
Eating a sensible (not necessarily 100% healthy) balanced diet will do you more good than food gimmicks.

Soy Milk: Dr. Mercola's Comments
It seems inevitable that when one uses unnatural processed foods in exchange for real food there is a potential for serious complications. In this instance there are even deeper problems with soy than the one referenced in the above study, as soy-based products remain one of the five "health foods" you are better off avoiding.

Even more concerning is soy's effects on health as a result of its powerful phytoestrogen component. Many people feel these phytoestrogens that mimic the effects of the female hormone estrogen are beneficial, but these phytoestrogens have been found to have unacceptable side effects in a large number of clinical settings.

Soy promoters have been very effective in convincing large segments of the population that soy is a health food. When this is compounded with the fact that many people are appropriately avoiding commercial pasteurized dairy products, an immediate market for calcium enhanced soy milk developed. Well, it is logical to assume this would be a wonderful alternative however as in most processed foods, when examined more carefully the strategy falls apart.

Source: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2005/03/02/soy-rice-milk.aspx
-- and --
Unfortunately, many Americans who are committed to healthy lifestyles have been hoodwinked and manipulated into believing that unfermented and processed soy products like soymilk, soy cheese, soy burgers and soy ice cream are good for them.

Dr. Kaayla Daniel, author of The Whole Soy Story, points out thousands of studies linking soy to malnutrition, digestive distress, immune-system breakdown, thyroid dysfunction, cognitive decline, reproductive disorders and infertility—even cancer and heart disease. Here is just a sampling of the health effects that have been linked to soy consumption:
Breast cancer
Brain damage
Infant abnormalities
Thyroid disorders
Kidney stones
Immune system impairment
Severe, potentially fatal food allergies
Impaired fertility
Danger during pregnancy and nursing

Source: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/09/18/soy-can-damage-your-health.aspx

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
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And obviously, any sort of dressing is not good for you.

Vinaigrette dressing has sugar? Hmm..., come to think of it, it's like almost oxidized grape juice, but still healthier than any other type of dressing for calories.

So you think swapping oil and fat for concentrated sugars is better??
My dietician wouldn't think so and neither do I.
And for anyone diabetic, it's a recipe for disaster!!

It's these sorts of mixed messages that confuse the likes of LGH as to what is 'healthy' and what isn't.

ETA: "Vinaigrette dressing has sugar?". Vinaigrette is oil based, Balsamic vinegar is sugars.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
The other healthy dressing I love is to simply squeeze fresh lemon juice onto my salads. Hell, if I indulge in french fries, I also like squeezing fresh lemon juice onto it, as it tastes better.

Now that is a sensible option - if you ignore the natural sugars in citrus fruits.




SinFix -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 7:43:00 AM)

I agree with FD1,

Soy was never meant to be consumed in the quantities that it is now. Having a soy allergy, you would not believe the amount of foods (processed) that contain some form of soy. There has been a decline in it's use lately though, for at least a decade if not more, potato chip companies used soybean oil in their products; yet the past couple of years, I have noticed that the majority of them have switched to more "healthy" types of oils. On a side note, there are a lot of non food products that contain soy by products as well, such as shampoos, conditioners, lotions and body washes.

I find the best flavor for my salads is apple cider vinegar, though I do use a little safflower or grape seed oil as well, but I mix this myself to limit the amount of oil to vinegar.

Having some big food allergies, I find that I have a major balancing act of enough fats/complex carbs. This whole carbs is bad is such a fools paradise, simple carbs (quickly broken down; just a laymen term there) are bad, but the complex carbs are some of the best things to put into your body. Though this whole low/no carb fad lumps them both into one category which is wrong.

The problem with fast food/ processed foods is that yes the main ingredients that make them taste good are addicting, so it can be a slow process to adjust your body to not consuming those items.







Greta75 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 8:17:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1
My diabetic dietician warned me that these 'probiotic' things are nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

You may believe probiotics is media hype, but I have seen alot of improvement on my digestive health. No more gassiness in stomach or indigestion. No change in eating habits, just added more probiotics. In the past I tried yogurt, but I realise the dosage is too low.

So it works perfectly for me. We women like to have perfectly slim and flat stomach at all times with our skin tight dresses, so bloated tummy is a big no no. Probiotics really eliminated this problem for me.

Probiotics is a medical cure for irritable bowel syndrome by the way, the doctors prescribe it. It also prevents yeast infection in women. No gimmick product at all.

My probiotics are also the prescription kind that requires refrigeration to keep them alive.

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Even more concerning is soy's effects on health as a result of its powerful phytoestrogen component. Many people feel these phytoestrogens that mimic the effects of the female hormone estrogen are beneficial, but these phytoestrogens have been found to have unacceptable side effects in a large number of clinical settings.

There is contradicting research on soy. Some say it prevents breast cancer, some says it causes breast cancer. But according to our government health promotion board, soy is seen as healthy and good for us, and a cancer prevention drink. One could say, all the bad press on soy could be the dairy industry protecting themselves. And soy is a big regular staple in our Asian diet. We love tofu. Many Asians are also genetically lactose intolerant, there is a reason why there is huge lacking of calcium in Asian's natural diet, as most calcium containing products has lactose. Soy is better for us. I grew up on soy milk never drank cow's milk as it taste horrible. This soy is evil thingy is a western propaganda. The fact that our cancer rates are lower than the west, while we drink soy everyday and eat loads of tofu with everything, tells me, it's not true. Can you imagine how many Asian moms have just been drinking soy everyday while pregnant with no issues and give birth to healthy babies? Maybe like Asians are lactose intolerant, Western people get a reaction to soy products, but we don't. Soy allergies is unheard of in our region.

The problem also is that you guys don't get fresh soy milk. The soy milk I drink everyday, is freshly made daily. We go to a soy store, and you see them producing it from scratch infront of you. No preservatives, just basically a machine that crush soy beans and add water, and that's it.

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So you think swapping oil and fat for concentrated sugars is better??

I did suggest fresh lemon juice, can't go wrong with that.
But it does say here balsamic vinaigrette are recommended for diabetics and can lower glucose level.
http://www.dlife.com/diabetes-food-and-fitness/diabetes-superfoods/special_nutrients/spoonful_of_vinegar

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Now that is a sensible option - if you ignore the natural sugars in citrus fruits.

Natural sugar in lemon is probably the least in content as compared to most other fruit, I'd say.




starkem -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 8:52:01 AM)

Nice. The skin is the tastiest part, but the least healthy to eat. Some of the prices where you live seem outrageous. You must live within or close to a metro area or business district. Property values must be equally out of control. Is that reflective of the entire country?




LittleGirlHeart -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 10:10:54 AM)

Take a look at these, this kind of stuff is what passes as salad in most sit down places, add any crutons , or candied walnuts or almonds(basically sugar coated)and claiming it's healthy is a joke. Their sodium counts equal about 3 or four day counts, at over a thousand, some are over 3 thousand their caloie counts are in the 3,or 4 digit range, their carbs are through the roof, and usually so is the sugar.

But goodness, I still love an eat them. I just won't claim they're healthy.


13 Almond Chicken Salad
$10.99
Grilled chicken breast tossed with bleu cheese crumbles, sweet apples, green onions, dried cranberries, avocado and crispy greens with Italian vinaigrette, and topped with toasted almonds.

Caribbean Salad
Fresh, hand-cut pineapple, mandarin oranges, dried cranberries, diced red bell peppers, chopped green onions, cilantro & sesame seeds with a honey-lime dressing.
Options:
Grilled Chicken
Seared Shrimp


18 Road House Salad
$10.49
Angus sirloin tip, bleu cheese, diced bacon, red onion, and tomato top crispy romaine lettuce tossed with creamy garlic dressing.


#15 Crispy Santa Fe Salad
Choose crispy fried or grilled chicken or BBQ pulled pork on mixed greens, tossed with chipotle ranch dressing, and topped with corn-tomato-bell pepper salsa, avocado, cheddar cheese and crispy tortilla strips.

#70 BBQ Chicken Salad
Grilled chicken breast, housemade BBQ sauce, on a bed of spring greens tossed with ranch dressing, and topped with cheddar cheese, tomatoes, avocado, and crispy onion straws.

One salad on chillies is 3770 in sodium



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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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Sit down restaurant are not fast, but the salads are not healthy for you. Just look at the nutrition stats, they're usually high sodium, high calorie high fat.

Over here we have take away salad bars, where the people make the salad infront of you, so you get choice of salad leaves, and then you choose what you want in them, (all types of meat, cheeses and extra vegetables available) and what dressing you want. It's actually very very healthy. But just not cheap for me. I usually just pick feta cheese, spinach leaves and raisins, and salt and pepper, without any dressing, and I'm happy with that. I actually assume US must have the same, I mean, these salad bars are especially popular in our central business district, for busy professionals who wants a quick healthy meal. The other thing would be salad wraps which is my favourite! Just grill chicken and salad leaves in a wrap, and just salt and pepper, usually I'd choose no dressing, as the yummy dressing for wraps tend to be the mayonnaise based ones, like ranch sauce. And these salad bars, some of them go even more extreme, like whatever meat you choose, like for example, you will literally see them pick out raw chicken from the fridge and grill them infront of you, before putting it in your salad, so you know you are getting 100% fresh stuffs and no preservative. The chicken will not be marinated either, as there is a choice for that too, marinated chicken or just plain. So I wish it was more affordable, as with such places, you have full control what goes into your food. And it's take-away and someone else is cooking it! Hehe!






outlier -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 10:11:12 AM)

Greta75,

Do you use anything to keep track of what you eat? If you
have something you are happy with that's good. If not then
there is a free program called CRON-O-Meter. It is really
good and recommended by the dietician Jeff Novick, among others.

It comes in two versions, one for your computer and now they have
a web based version so you can keep track from your smart phone.

They keep it updated to the latest USDA information on foods.
You can set your targets, enter your body information, enter custom
recipes, it is really handy. And like a checkbook; if you are honest
with it it will tell you the truth, not what you want to believe.

It is here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/cronometer/




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 10:37:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1
My diabetic dietician warned me that these 'probiotic' things are nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

You may believe probiotics is media hype, but I have seen alot of improvement on my digestive health. No more gassiness in stomach or indigestion.

If, once in a while I get gas, I chomp on a chalk tablet for indigestion and it stops it dead.
But that may only occur once every 2 or 3 years. In general, I don't get gas or indigestion problems.

If you are suffering from these types of problems, your diet is wrong.
Taking medicinal cures for a diet problem is not the right way to go about it.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
No change in eating habits, just added more probiotics. In the past I tried yogurt, but I realise the dosage is too low.

So it works perfectly for me. We women like to have perfectly slim and flat stomach at all times with our skin tight dresses, so bloated tummy is a big no no. Probiotics really eliminated this problem for me.

It's still a gimmick and I have been warned away from it.
I changed my diet slightly and that worked - no need for probiotics.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Probiotics is a medical cure for irritable bowel syndrome by the way, the doctors prescribe it. It also prevents yeast infection in women. No gimmick product at all.

My wife has IBS - probiotics made it worse.
Again, the doctor warned her away from them and with a slight change in diet, she rarely has symptoms now.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
My probiotics are also the prescription kind that requires refrigeration to keep them alive.

Virtually all probiotic products need refrigerating whether they are prescription or from the supermarket.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
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Even more concerning is soy's effects on health as a result of its powerful phytoestrogen component. Many people feel these phytoestrogens that mimic the effects of the female hormone estrogen are beneficial, but these phytoestrogens have been found to have unacceptable side effects in a large number of clinical settings.

There is contradicting research on soy. Some say it prevents breast cancer, some says it causes breast cancer. But according to our government health promotion board, soy is seen as healthy and good for us, and a cancer prevention drink. One could say, all the bad press on soy could be the dairy industry protecting themselves.

And that is why I gave you that particular link - it has nothing to do with the dairy industry and they have no axe to grind.
And, like they say, people have been hoodwinked and lied to in believing Soy is a good thing.
Seems like you have swallowed the bait.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
This soy is evil thingy is a western propaganda. The fact that our cancer rates are lower than the west, while we drink soy everyday and eat loads of tofu with everything, tells me, it's not true.

It's not western propaganda at all, Greta.
And the reason for your cancer rates being lower are due to other food factors - not that you drink Soy daily.
Like a lot of people, you are taking what your government are telling you as gospel without doing the research.
Very much an 'eastern' thing.... what your government is saying is right and anything contradicting it is western propaganda.
Sounds very much like the poor Chinese who are not only blinded by their leaders but are blocked from finding out the real truth in the big wide world. [8|]

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
The problem also is that you guys don't get fresh soy milk. The soy milk I drink everyday, is freshly made daily. We go to a soy store, and you see them producing it from scratch infront of you. No preservatives, just basically a machine that crush soy beans and add water, and that's it.

Actually, the USA (82.05*), Brazil (65.85*), and Argentina (40.1*) grow more Soy than does China (12.8*).
Singapore doesn't grow any - at least not in any appreciable amounts.
So your 'fresh' Soy is... {*gasp* shock horror} imported. And how "fresh" is that exactly??? You don't know for sure.
Even so, your 'fresh' isn't as fresh as those that grow it and no more 'fresh' than us or anywhere else importing it.

Sorry Greta, you really are bamboozled and fed propaganda far more than we are in the west.

*Metric tonnes. Source: http://www.statista.com/statistics/267270/production-of-soybeans-by-countries-since-2008/

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
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So you think swapping oil and fat for concentrated sugars is better??

I did suggest fresh lemon juice, can't go wrong with that.
But it does say here balsamic vinaigrette are recommended for diabetics and can lower glucose level.
http://www.dlife.com/diabetes-food-and-fitness/diabetes-superfoods/special_nutrients/spoonful_of_vinegar

My doctor and diabetic specialist disagree.
And if you seriously think that using saturated oils and fats (and in the case of Balsamic, sugars) are beneficial to a diabetic, then I wish to all that is holy that you never get to be a diabetic - you'll be dead very quickly.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
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Now that is a sensible option - if you ignore the natural sugars in citrus fruits.

Natural sugar in lemon is probably the least in content as compared to most other fruit, I'd say.

Yep, for most ripe fruits.




LittleGirlHeart -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 1:33:02 PM)

Thyroid test is normal.




AAkasha -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 2:16:25 PM)


I have heard Overeaters Anonymous is an effective 12 step group and also offers fellowship which might be very helpful for you.

Look them up.

They should be everywhere, there must be a group close to you. If you can't get to it, someone can probably pick you up if you can call their office.





Greta75 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 5:00:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1
It's still a gimmick and I have been warned away from it.
I changed my diet slightly and that worked - no need for probiotics.

Well, the whole point is so that I can eat whatever I want to eat without bloated tummy. My family has history of sensitive stomach, and probiotics is the cure, approved by my doctor. Who wants to change their diet and deprive themselves of their favourite foods? The number 1 culprit of bloated tummy for us is spicy food, we love our red hot chillies alot and like all our food super hot and spicy. I am not giving up my spice!

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My wife has IBS - probiotics made it worse.

I am very skeptical of this now. But okay, if you say so.

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Virtually all probiotic products need refrigerating whether they are prescription or from the supermarket.

Not true, majority of probiotics do not require refrigeration now, in Singapore, I can only find one prescription brand that requires refrigeration, all the rest are off the shelves and claims to withstand room temperature. The problem is, probiotics are live good bacterias that naturally exist in your body. I am skeptical it survives on room temperature. So I don't know why you have so much negativity towards a bacteria that naturally occurs in your body. Even if you don't like probiotics, you have it inside your body already. You can't choose not have probiotics in you. And for me, I'm simply increasing the population of it in my body.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
And, like they say, people have been hoodwinked and lied to in believing Soy is a good thing.
Seems like you have swallowed the bait.

Pure western propaganda, as I believe we Asians been drinking soy milk way longer than the western places has and in larger quantities. Soy Milk was never a daily drink in American or British lifestyle ever. It's always been just a health fad, while for us, soy is major part of our diet, like potatoes are for Americans and British people.

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And the reason for your cancer rates being lower are due to other food factors - not that you drink Soy daily.p

No actually, the fact that we consume soy everyday, should technically raise our cancer ratess and make all my babies abnormal, since that is what you believe in. You have no idea how much soy we consume, it's like drinking coffee or tea, an essential everyday.


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Actually, the USA (82.05*), Brazil (65.85*), and Argentina (40.1*) grow more Soy than does China (12.8*).
Singapore doesn't grow any - at least not in any appreciable amounts.
So your 'fresh' Soy is... {*gasp* shock horror} imported. And how "fresh" is that exactly??? You don't know for sure.
Even so, your 'fresh' isn't as fresh as those that grow it and no more 'fresh' than us or anywhere else importing it.p.

Our soy is fresher than yours because even if US grows it, you guys don't get it freshly made, but it goes into supermarket in carton boxes, preservatives and other stuffs gets added. You don't get it freshly squeeze like we do. It's like all our oranges are imported too, but if the store freshly squeeze the oranges for us drink, it's fresher than buying it from the supermarket.

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My doctor and diabetic specialist disagree.
And if you seriously think that using saturated oils and fats (and in the case of Balsamic, sugars) are beneficial to a diabetic, then I wish to all that is holy that you never get to be a diabetic - you'll be dead very quickly.

I think you are exaggerating. You want to put out links for soys being evil, ignoring the links for soy being good. Yet you don't want to believe balsamic vinegar is healthy for diabetic despite research done. Your diabetic dietician sounds very crazy to be frank.





shiftyw -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 5:07:27 PM)

Soy is actually really really terrible for your thyroid. I avoid the stuff as much as possible.




Greta75 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 5:09:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: starkem

Nice. The skin is the tastiest part, but the least healthy to eat. Some of the prices where you live seem outrageous. You must live within or close to a metro area or business district. Property values must be equally out of control. Is that reflective of the entire country?

Yes it is, as we are one whole city. It takes only 1.5 hours or less, to drive from one end of the country to the other end, so we are tiny.
Western food prices are outrageous, Western food ingredients from the supermarket are outrageous, but Asian food prices are dirt cheap. I guess because everything is imported in, and most of our Asian ingredients comes from neighbour Malaysia. So it can be cheaper.




Greta75 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 5:12:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: shiftyw
Soy is actually really really terrible for your thyroid. I avoid the stuff as much as possible.

I have a feeling genetically, western folks have intolerance to soy, the way 90% Asian people have intolerance to lactose.

Also, peanut allergy is something I've never heard of until I visited the US. Yet apparently it's so fatal over there that it kills, that's why all the warning labels on products that contain nuts.

Like peanut is something very essential and widely consume here too.

On the other hand, it's scientifically proven that western folks body make up can process and break down alcohol much better than Asians. Asians often turn beetroot red with just a sip of alcohol.




Greta75 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 5:16:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: outlier

Greta75,

Do you use anything to keep track of what you eat? If you
have something you are happy with that's good.

The problem is, most of these programs are not Asian food friendly. I've just gone a western food week, but it's cheaper to make your own, so I did. But 99% of the time, I eat local food, and the ingredients are too vast to key it in. Like this dish Lor Mee, the thick soup itself ha 12 different spices blended inside to make it's special aromatic flavours. So its only easy to track if I actually make my own food all the time, but 99% of the time, I eat out and I eat Asian. Basically Thai, Indian, Indonesian, Korean, Singaporean, Malaysian, Chinese etc...





Greta75 -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 5:21:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

Take a look at these, this kind of stuff is what passes as salad in most sit down places, add any crutons , or candied walnuts or almonds(basically sugar coated)and claiming it's healthy is a joke. Their sodium counts equal about 3 or four day counts, at over a thousand, some are over 3 thousand their caloie counts are in the 3,or 4 digit range, their carbs are through the roof, and usually so is the sugar.

But goodness, I still love an eat them. I just won't claim they're healthy.

Yea, those salads are not health salads, but surely you can ask them to customized and make your own salad?







LittleGirlHeart -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 5:28:32 PM)

No. Most these places don't offer salad bars, it's the salads they make only. Though I suppose you could ask for just plain lettuce and cheese an stuff.
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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

Take a look at these, this kind of stuff is what passes as salad in most sit down places, add any crutons , or candied walnuts or almonds(basically sugar coated)and claiming it's healthy is a joke. Their sodium counts equal about 3 or four day counts, at over a thousand, some are over 3 thousand their caloie counts are in the 3,or 4 digit range, their carbs are through the roof, and usually so is the sugar.

But goodness, I still love an eat them. I just won't claim they're healthy.

Yea, those salads are not health salads, but surely you can ask them to customized and make your own salad?









LaTigresse -> RE: how do you break a fastfood/takeout addiction? (12/3/2014 6:00:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

m struggling with wanting a salad from his place of work for dinner, however there is lima bean soup on the stove so I should not ask for food . I just am not finding it very tasty:/plus, I really need to learn to break this dependence / addiction on take out, specially if there's food at home


You go cold turkey and stop eating the shit.




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