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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

It is in our household.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

So we are raping for lunch today? Could you make my rape, "well done!!"

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
If government were to dictate, under penalty of law, that each individual in the US had to perform 30 minutes of qualified exercise every day, would that be okay, since exercise is good for people?

That is a fair perspective but children have no idea what they are eating, be it good or bad. Do we guide them to healthier choices or simply let them eat "mystery meat" and "sugared drinks of no nutritional value" while demanding they perform academically and physically. During which time they are going through "growing pains". Don't we want them to have the best chance at performing their best in a reasonable context of their health being our priority? Not theirs?

I'm not in favor of kids eating unhealthy food. But, if kids aren't eating the healthy food, shouldn't they at least be eating something? There are also schools that ban kids from bringing bagged lunches. Isn't it a parent's responsibility to determine what a child eats?
At issue isn't healthy vs. unhealthy food choices; it's authoritarian control by government over choices that aren't theirs to make.

Unfortunately Desi, not all parents make a sensible choice; that's the problem.
Sometimes the government have to make those choices for them.
They did it here starting this school year for infant-school kids (aged 4-7) where every child has the option of a free school meal. Apparently, it has gone really well.

Unless the child has been removed from the parents for abuse or neglect, the government should NOT be raising the child and making such choices for them. That is just crazy.

I didn't say to raise the child - just give the parents the option of having the school provide a healthy option to what many kids have as a processed food lunch or no lunch at all.
Not all parents are savvy as to what is healthy and what isn't.
My neighbour is a prime example.
She isn't stupid but she thinks a good packed lunch for school is Dairylea cheese dippers, a choccy bar and two bags of chips.

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Seriously, there is no reason that people need to be able to discuss the gylcemic index of different foods to make healthy choices. You needn't even make the "best" food choices. "Good" food choices, in most cases, will be just dandy.

Most "super foods" are not. Drink water. Eat a variety of colors (unfortunately M&Ms do not count). Fresh or frozen is better than canned. Less processing is better. Try to avoid sugar and simple carbs ~ not avoid them like the plague, but reduce where you can. If you buy boxed cereal make sure that sugar is not in the first 6 ingredients. You do not need to eat as much meat as you think you do. Lunchmeat is not as healthy as beef, ham, turkey, or chicken roasted and sliced by yourself (although I suppose that falls under processing.)

That is pretty much all the education you need to make healthier choices.

Dans ses écrits, un sage Italien
Dit que le mieux est l'ennemi du bien.

(In his writings, a wise Italian
says that the better is the enemy of the good) ~ Voltaire


As far as not washing fruits and veggie? Harmful strains of E. Coli and other food borne illnesses are a great way to loose weight! Don't think of the glass as half empty! (no, I do not REALLY recommend those for anyone.)

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Seriously, there is no reason that people need to be able to discuss the gylcemic index of different foods to make healthy choices. You needn't even make the "best" food choices. "Good" food choices, in most cases, will be just dandy.

Most "super foods" are not. Drink water. Eat a variety of colors (unfortunately M&Ms do not count). Fresh or frozen is better than canned. Less processing is better. Try to avoid sugar and simple carbs ~ not avoid them like the plague, but reduce where you can. If you buy boxed cereal make sure that sugar is not in the first 6 ingredients. You do not need to eat as much meat as you think you do. Lunchmeat is not as healthy as beef, ham, turkey, or chicken roasted and sliced by yourself (although I suppose that falls under processing.)

That is pretty much all the education you need to make healthier choices.

Dans ses écrits, un sage Italien
Dit que le mieux est l'ennemi du bien.

(In his writings, a wise Italian
says that the better is the enemy of the good) ~ Voltaire


As far as not washing fruits and veggie? Harmful strains of E. Coli and other food borne illnesses are a great way to loose weight! Don't think of the glass as half empty! (no, I do not REALLY recommend those for anyone.)

I disagree.. Imo the reason for a lot of illnesses is inflammation and you get that (at least in my experience) from eating too much processed food (like tv dinners, kraft mac&cheese, "food" like that) and getting too many carbs from bread, pasta and food like that (it doesn't matter if its whole wheat bread or whole wheat pasta, carbs are carbs).. So yes, I do think people need to educate themselves.. not that its any skin off my nose if they don't.. its their future health at risk..

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Seriously, there is no reason that people need to be able to discuss the gylcemic index of different foods to make healthy choices. You needn't even make the "best" food choices. "Good" food choices, in most cases, will be just dandy.

Most "super foods" are not. Drink water. Eat a variety of colors (unfortunately M&Ms do not count). Fresh or frozen is better than canned. Less processing is better. Try to avoid sugar and simple carbs ~ not avoid them like the plague, but reduce where you can. If you buy boxed cereal make sure that sugar is not in the first 6 ingredients. You do not need to eat as much meat as you think you do. Lunchmeat is not as healthy as beef, ham, turkey, or chicken roasted and sliced by yourself (although I suppose that falls under processing.)

That is pretty much all the education you need to make healthier choices.

Dans ses écrits, un sage Italien
Dit que le mieux est l'ennemi du bien.

(In his writings, a wise Italian
says that the better is the enemy of the good) ~ Voltaire


As far as not washing fruits and veggie? Harmful strains of E. Coli and other food borne illnesses are a great way to loose weight! Don't think of the glass as half empty! (no, I do not REALLY recommend those for anyone.)

I disagree.. Imo the reason for a lot of illnesses is inflammation and you get that (at least in my experience) from eating too much processed food (like tv dinners, kraft mac&cheese, "food" like that) and getting too many carbs from bread, pasta and food like that (it doesn't matter if its whole wheat bread or whole wheat pasta, carbs are carbs).. So yes, I do think people need to educate themselves.. not that its any skin off my nose if they don't.. its their future health at risk..

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Seriously, there is no reason that people need to be able to discuss the gylcemic index of different foods to make healthy choices. You needn't even make the "best" food choices. "Good" food choices, in most cases, will be just dandy.

Most "super foods" are not. Drink water. Eat a variety of colors (unfortunately M&Ms do not count). Fresh or frozen is better than canned. Less processing is better. Try to avoid sugar and simple carbs ~ not avoid them like the plague, but reduce where you can. If you buy boxed cereal make sure that sugar is not in the first 6 ingredients. You do not need to eat as much meat as you think you do. Lunchmeat is not as healthy as beef, ham, turkey, or chicken roasted and sliced by yourself (although I suppose that falls under processing.)

That is pretty much all the education you need to make healthier choices.

Dans ses écrits, un sage Italien
Dit que le mieux est l'ennemi du bien.

(In his writings, a wise Italian
says that the better is the enemy of the good) ~ Voltaire


As far as not washing fruits and veggie? Harmful strains of E. Coli and other food borne illnesses are a great way to loose weight! Don't think of the glass as half empty! (no, I do not REALLY recommend those for anyone.)

I disagree.. Imo the reason for a lot of illnesses is inflammation and you get that (at least in my experience) from eating too much processed food (like tv dinners, kraft mac&cheese, "food" like that) and getting too many carbs from bread, pasta and food like that (it doesn't matter if its whole wheat bread or whole wheat pasta, carbs are carbs).. So yes, I do think people need to educate themselves.. not that its any skin off my nose if they don't.. its their future health at risk..

While I agree that there are a lot of people out there who have no clue how to eat healthy, I think a big part is they don't have the time or motivation to do it.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

It is in our household.

I really do not think that you are Mr. Rapey-McRaperson.

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so they stick their head in the sand then?.. they trust the govt and "food" manufacturers? Yes, they do that at their own (& their children's) peril tho.. again, no skin off my nose..

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of course the fact that "nutrition" and what is good and bad for you changes constantly, people like Dr Oz, lying labels and research, the paleo diet, the atkins diet, fuck all diets, are confusing and cost more money than they are worth.
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I had a mum at home, I had a mum who fed us a good breakfast and a meal at night, from scratch. she never knew about the meals being missed at lunch, she woulda had my hide,
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You may have found the "right way" to eat, but not everyone can or will and to expect otherwise is a pointless exercise.
TO ensure that all kids can get a decent meal at lunch while their families are working or for whatever reason shouldnt be political

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As a nation, we’re slowly realizing that whole, fresh foods are good for you and that cooking at home can save you money and provide you with better nutrition.

Overall, this is a great trend. It’s becoming easier and more common to get fresh food, whole foods, local foods, and organic foods.

Unfortunately, though, this shift in culture has also begun to produce a toxic byproduct: better-than-thou attitudes and judgments about low-income people’s decisions about food.

“Why do they waste their money on junk food?” “Why doesn’t she cook for her children?” “Ugh, look, he’s buying his toddler a Happy Meal.”

Many of us have thought things like this or heard other people say things like this. We are very concerned with how poor people (or people we assume are poor) spend money on food.

The truth is, though, we rarely have all the facts when we judge these people. Let’s change that.

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force feed the little shits
Oh that would be taking things a lil too far huh.
grins

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Second, schools aren't necessarily ensuring that kids can get a decent meal at lunch. If a family makes "too much money" and doesn't feel it can afford for the kid(s) to buy lunch, it doesn't matter what the school offers, it's not available to the student(s). There are questions about how nutritious the lunches are (when you classify "pizza" as having a vegetable because of the sauce, that might lead to some questions), and if the kids aren't eating the lunches offered, they aren't getting a decent meal anyway.

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force feed the little shits
Oh that would be taking things a lil too far huh.
grins

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• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)