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tweakabelle -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/27/2014 12:35:49 AM)
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ORIGINAL: bounty44
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
There seems to be a paucity of actual evidence to support claims of widespread celebrations in the Muslim world following 9/11.
The evidence produced to date appears to rely heavily on a single piece of dubious footage showing "happy Palestinians" allegedly "celebrating' 9/11". I reviewed this evidence briefly in post #134 and found it fails to convince (to say the least). Against this the politifact link confirms widespread condemnation of 9/11 across the Arab/Muslim world. So while it seems likely that the horrors of 9/11 found favour in some isolated Muslim/Arab quarters, this support appears limited in extent and there appears to be no reason to suppose this support was widespread or representative.
Easy to see why kdsub is either unable or unwilling to post links supporting his claims. One is forced to wonder why some individuals posting here are so heavily invested in spreading these dubious claims. Possible explanations range from genuine error based in ignorance or misinformation through to raving Islamophobia.
"paucity of actual claims?"
here is one site that aggregated a large handful. it only took me just a minute to find it.
http://www.blackfive.net/main/2012/09/muslims-celebrated-the-sep-11-attacks.html
you will see the page takes first hand accounts from Germany, Lebanon, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Iran and even Washington DC. Note in particular the documentary linked at the end. http://www.memrifilms.org/9-11-five-years-later.php
while im here---its interesting to note that the only thing liberals have in common with fundamental islam is their mutual hatred for America. They (the Muslims) are in stark disagreement with everything else you (the liberals) hold dear and if you found yourself living in a true Muslim state (which is their goal) you would be either oppressed, jailed, or executed for your beliefs and lifestyle.
If you are going to quote me, please do so accurately. I stated that there was a "paucity of actual evidence", not a "paucity of actual claims?", as appears in your post. There is a difference and in this particular context, that difference is significant.
The integrity of the links you supplied to support your claims leaves a lot to be desired. The people responsible for the second link you supplied MEMRI (http://www.memrifilms.org/9-11-five-years-later.php) are notorious as an Israeli Intelligence front and supplier of misinformation and dubious translations that favour Israeli interests and disadvantage those of Israel's enemies and perceived enemies, all at the expense of the truth. Check out this report (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/aug/12/worlddispatch.brianwhitaker) detailing MEMRI's shady structure, past and activities.
Even leaving that substantial reservation aside and, for the purposes of this discussion only, granting that the claims in your links have some merit, it is clear that the evidence from your links is mainly personal opinions, second hand accounts and other anecdotal evidence. I don't recall a single instance of a first hand account involving more than a handful of people. This out of a total of one and a half billion Muslims worldwide.
By any measure that amounts to a "paucity of actual evidence".
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