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BamaD -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/16/2014 3:43:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 this is a Fast Reply- It seems that this person had mental issues/instability.. so how is this a terrorism thing any more than someone killing because he/she heard voices telling him/her to kill their children to "save" them or send them to a "better place" or someone saying Satan told them to.. or a mentally ill husband who takes his wife and kids hostage or commits murder suicide.. or of any other delusions a mentally ill person would come up with? It seems to me that many of these types of incidents are a result of mental problems that are not treated or properly treated and that should be a greater focus.. wasn't there another thread here a while ago about a mentally ill person turned killer & how the health care system fails the mentally ill? (maybe Newtown?).. anyway, that's jmo.. http://www.dw.de/sydney-gunman-had-history-of-mental-instability/a-18133289 http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/17/aaron-alexis-another-improperly-treated-mentally-ill-man-becomes-mass-killer/ Prior to the attack he proclaimed his support of ISIS. To argue that he was imbalanced means he could not be a terrorist is irrational. Terrorists are by there nature often imbalanced.

Politesub53 -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/16/2014 4:28:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 I recently learnt from Muslims that ISIS stands for Israel Internal Security, and that we were all fooled into thinking jews are muslims, so they believe ISIS is a Jewish group trying to invade Islamic countries. And the western media is completely fooled and report them as a Muslim group. And they truly from the bottom of heart believe that ISIS is a jewish movement that they are so frustrated and angry the media is not reporting accurately and blaming ISIS on muslims. Sure you did. You make up so much bullshit it is hard to keep track.

Politesub53 -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/16/2014 4:34:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Will Barack will tell us that these Islamists arent Islamic quote: Taliban storm Pakistani school, killing 126 (children) http://news.yahoo.com/pakistan-taliban-attack-military-school-kill-2-072153239.html Will there ever be widespread backlash against Islamists, and the book that teaches their ideology Two different events but dont let that stop your usual moronic rant. Does it ever fucking occur to you that those Muslims killed in pakistan today also believe in the same book as the Islamists ? nah.... I thought not.

tweakabelle -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/17/2014 2:12:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 this is a Fast Reply- It seems that this person had mental issues/instability.. so how is this a terrorism thing any more than someone killing because he/she heard voices telling him/her to kill their children to "save" them or send them to a "better place" or someone saying Satan told them to.. or a mentally ill husband who takes his wife and kids hostage or commits murder suicide.. or of any other delusions a mentally ill person would come up with? It seems to me that many of these types of incidents are a result of mental problems that are not treated or properly treated and that should be a greater focus.. wasn't there another thread here a while ago about a mentally ill person turned killer & how the health care system fails the mentally ill? (maybe Newtown?).. anyway, that's jmo.. http://www.dw.de/sydney-gunman-had-history-of-mental-instability/a-18133289 http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/17/aaron-alexis-another-improperly-treated-mentally-ill-man-becomes-mass-killer/ Prior to the attack he proclaimed his support of ISIS. To argue that he was imbalanced means he could not be a terrorist is irrational. Terrorists are by there nature often imbalanced. Please stop taking this poor deranged individual seriously. He was so incompetent that he neglected to bring his IS banner with him and so had to include the provision of an IS flag as one of the demands he made to the authorities ..... By turning it into a serious terrorist incident you are playing directly into the hands of IS who would love to be able to claim that their reach extends far beyond the borders of their 'Caliphate'. If there is a terrorism-related aspect to this sad incident, it is in the way the people of Sydney reacted to the event, reaching out to our Muslim community and together standing tall against the forces of hate and bigotry. This has ensured that bigots and fundamentalists (on all sides, including our right wing fundies and loonies) have been sidelined and silenced. The silence of the usual suspects on the Right, normally too quick to jump onto any anti-Muslim bandwagon, has been deafening. Here in Australia, no one is pointing the finger at Islam, Iran or Iranians, or terrorists. Most people here accept that the perp was a deeply troubled individual with serious mental and legal challenges, acting on his own initiative. The only place I see people pointing fingers are here on these boards, usually by people far removed from the event, people with their own Islamophobic agendas to push. I wish they could follow the lead of Australia's Islamophobes and grace the discussion with their silence.

Sanity -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/17/2014 5:50:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Here in Australia, no one is pointing the finger at Islam,.. That you claim to speak for everyone in Australia says all that really needs to be said about your post The fellow did believe he was doing something righteous due to things he was taught. He may have possibly been imbalanced, but Islamists do preach violence and preaching violence as Islam does has begat countless tragedies, many on horrific scales Entire nations destroyed, just as Israel is now in the sights of Iran and others who openly preach for her destruction in a nuclear holocaust Islam is far from innocent in such things And no, I am not saying that all Muslims this, or all Muslims that I am saying that the ideology is based on violence and a study of the history of Islam (recent history, as well as the history of the origin of Islam) makes that very clear Now go ahead and tell me how bad the Jehovahs Witnesses and the Amish and Hindus and Buddhists are, because we all know that two wrongs make a right even if one of the wrongs is imaginary

Musicmystery -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/17/2014 6:23:48 AM)
If you think really hard -- maybe close your eyes and breathe -- you might stumble across the realization that, for example, the attacks in Pakistan are Islamists against Islamists. Some folks are fundamentalist dangers. Westboro and Mother Teresa are not synonymous. Nor are extremists and mainstream practitioners of any other faith. You're a grown up now. There aren't monsters under your bed. There are dangerous extremists in Sydney. As you're one who doesn't even read the links he posts, I doubt your scholarship of Islam is up to par either. You say you're not saying "all Islam this," but immediately before and after, you do say that. A very conflicted soul. Maybe Rush or Beck will do a show on it, so they can tell you what to think.

BamaD -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/17/2014 6:51:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 this is a Fast Reply- It seems that this person had mental issues/instability.. so how is this a terrorism thing any more than someone killing because he/she heard voices telling him/her to kill their children to "save" them or send them to a "better place" or someone saying Satan told them to.. or a mentally ill husband who takes his wife and kids hostage or commits murder suicide.. or of any other delusions a mentally ill person would come up with? It seems to me that many of these types of incidents are a result of mental problems that are not treated or properly treated and that should be a greater focus.. wasn't there another thread here a while ago about a mentally ill person turned killer & how the health care system fails the mentally ill? (maybe Newtown?).. anyway, that's jmo.. http://www.dw.de/sydney-gunman-had-history-of-mental-instability/a-18133289 http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/17/aaron-alexis-another-improperly-treated-mentally-ill-man-becomes-mass-killer/ Prior to the attack he proclaimed his support of ISIS. To argue that he was imbalanced means he could not be a terrorist is irrational. Terrorists are by there nature often imbalanced. Please stop taking this poor deranged individual seriously. He was so incompetent that he neglected to bring his IS banner with him and so had to include the provision of an IS flag as one of the demands he made to the authorities ..... By turning it into a serious terrorist incident you are playing directly into the hands of IS who would love to be able to claim that their reach extends far beyond the borders of their 'Caliphate'. If there is a terrorism-related aspect to this sad incident, it is in the way the people of Sydney reacted to the event, reaching out to our Muslim community and together standing tall against the forces of hate and bigotry. This has ensured that bigots and fundamentalists (on all sides, including our right wing fundies and loonies) have been sidelined and silenced. The silence of the usual suspects on the Right, normally too quick to jump onto any anti-Muslim bandwagon, has been deafening. Here in Australia, no one is pointing the finger at Islam, Iran or Iranians, or terrorists. Most people here accept that the perp was a deeply troubled individual with serious mental and legal challenges, acting on his own initiative. The only place I see people pointing fingers are here on these boards, usually by people far removed from the event, people with their own Islamophobic agendas to push. I wish they could follow the lead of Australia's Islamophobes and grace the discussion with their silence. I only take him as seriously as I do any other nutcase who goes out to kill people. Proclaiming everyone who are see the obvious terror inspiration in this to be Islamaphobes is hiding your head in the sand.

tweakabelle -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/17/2014 7:34:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 this is a Fast Reply- It seems that this person had mental issues/instability.. so how is this a terrorism thing any more than someone killing because he/she heard voices telling him/her to kill their children to "save" them or send them to a "better place" or someone saying Satan told them to.. or a mentally ill husband who takes his wife and kids hostage or commits murder suicide.. or of any other delusions a mentally ill person would come up with? It seems to me that many of these types of incidents are a result of mental problems that are not treated or properly treated and that should be a greater focus.. wasn't there another thread here a while ago about a mentally ill person turned killer & how the health care system fails the mentally ill? (maybe Newtown?).. anyway, that's jmo.. http://www.dw.de/sydney-gunman-had-history-of-mental-instability/a-18133289 http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/17/aaron-alexis-another-improperly-treated-mentally-ill-man-becomes-mass-killer/ Prior to the attack he proclaimed his support of ISIS. To argue that he was imbalanced means he could not be a terrorist is irrational. Terrorists are by there nature often imbalanced. Please stop taking this poor deranged individual seriously. He was so incompetent that he neglected to bring his IS banner with him and so had to include the provision of an IS flag as one of the demands he made to the authorities ..... By turning it into a serious terrorist incident you are playing directly into the hands of IS who would love to be able to claim that their reach extends far beyond the borders of their 'Caliphate'. If there is a terrorism-related aspect to this sad incident, it is in the way the people of Sydney reacted to the event, reaching out to our Muslim community and together standing tall against the forces of hate and bigotry. This has ensured that bigots and fundamentalists (on all sides, including our right wing fundies and loonies) have been sidelined and silenced. The silence of the usual suspects on the Right, normally too quick to jump onto any anti-Muslim bandwagon, has been deafening. Here in Australia, no one is pointing the finger at Islam, Iran or Iranians, or terrorists. Most people here accept that the perp was a deeply troubled individual with serious mental and legal challenges, acting on his own initiative. The only place I see people pointing fingers are here on these boards, usually by people far removed from the event, people with their own Islamophobic agendas to push. I wish they could follow the lead of Australia's Islamophobes and grace the discussion with their silence. I only take him as seriously as I do any other nutcase who goes out to kill people. Proclaiming everyone who are see the obvious terror inspiration in this to be Islamaphobes is hiding your head in the sand. If you insist on taking this demented soul seriously that's your choice. It doesn't seem justified by the facts that are in the public domain at the moment. I can report that the kinds of security-related questions being asked here are along the lines of: How did a person with such a long history of violence obtain access to firearms? How did he apparently maintain this access despite being charged with c40 counts of sexual assault, and with involvement in the murder of his ex-wife? * How did a person with his history obtain bail on the string of sexual assault charges he is currently facing? * How did a person with his history fall off the security agencies 'watch list' c5 years ago and stay off it despite his subsequent arrest on sexual assault and accessory to murder charges? Perhaps further questions will emerge as more facts about the siege and the perp emerge but the above is the focus of inquiry here at the moment. Only one of the three questions has any kind of terrorism connection and even then the connection is far from direct.

BamaD -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/17/2014 7:42:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 this is a Fast Reply- It seems that this person had mental issues/instability.. so how is this a terrorism thing any more than someone killing because he/she heard voices telling him/her to kill their children to "save" them or send them to a "better place" or someone saying Satan told them to.. or a mentally ill husband who takes his wife and kids hostage or commits murder suicide.. or of any other delusions a mentally ill person would come up with? It seems to me that many of these types of incidents are a result of mental problems that are not treated or properly treated and that should be a greater focus.. wasn't there another thread here a while ago about a mentally ill person turned killer & how the health care system fails the mentally ill? (maybe Newtown?).. anyway, that's jmo.. http://www.dw.de/sydney-gunman-had-history-of-mental-instability/a-18133289 http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/17/aaron-alexis-another-improperly-treated-mentally-ill-man-becomes-mass-killer/ Prior to the attack he proclaimed his support of ISIS. To argue that he was imbalanced means he could not be a terrorist is irrational. Terrorists are by there nature often imbalanced. Please stop taking this poor deranged individual seriously. He was so incompetent that he neglected to bring his IS banner with him and so had to include the provision of an IS flag as one of the demands he made to the authorities ..... By turning it into a serious terrorist incident you are playing directly into the hands of IS who would love to be able to claim that their reach extends far beyond the borders of their 'Caliphate'. If there is a terrorism-related aspect to this sad incident, it is in the way the people of Sydney reacted to the event, reaching out to our Muslim community and together standing tall against the forces of hate and bigotry. This has ensured that bigots and fundamentalists (on all sides, including our right wing fundies and loonies) have been sidelined and silenced. The silence of the usual suspects on the Right, normally too quick to jump onto any anti-Muslim bandwagon, has been deafening. Here in Australia, no one is pointing the finger at Islam, Iran or Iranians, or terrorists. Most people here accept that the perp was a deeply troubled individual with serious mental and legal challenges, acting on his own initiative. The only place I see people pointing fingers are here on these boards, usually by people far removed from the event, people with their own Islamophobic agendas to push. I wish they could follow the lead of Australia's Islamophobes and grace the discussion with their silence. I only take him as seriously as I do any other nutcase who goes out to kill people. Proclaiming everyone who are see the obvious terror inspiration in this to be Islamaphobes is hiding your head in the sand. If you insist on taking this demented soul seriously that's your choice. It doesn't seem justified by the facts that are in the public domain at the moment. I can report that the kinds of security-related questions being asked here are along the lines of: How did a person with such a long history of violence obtain access to firearms? How did he apparently maintain this access despite being charged with c40 counts of sexual assault, and with involvement in the murder of his ex-wife? * How did a person with his history obtain bail on the string of sexual assault charges he is currently facing? * How did a person with his history fall off the security agencies 'watch list' c5 years ago and stay off it despite his subsequent arrest on sexual assault and accessory to murder charges? Perhaps further questions will emerge as more facts about the siege and the perp emerge but the above is the focus of inquiry here at the moment. Only one of the three questions has any kind of terrorism connection and even then the connection is far from direct. You are 100% correct on one point anyway, he should not have been out walking around.

Aylee -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/17/2014 8:18:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 this is a Fast Reply- It seems that this person had mental issues/instability.. so how is this a terrorism thing any more than someone killing because he/she heard voices telling him/her to kill their children to "save" them or send them to a "better place" or someone saying Satan told them to.. or a mentally ill husband who takes his wife and kids hostage or commits murder suicide.. or of any other delusions a mentally ill person would come up with? It seems to me that many of these types of incidents are a result of mental problems that are not treated or properly treated and that should be a greater focus.. wasn't there another thread here a while ago about a mentally ill person turned killer & how the health care system fails the mentally ill? (maybe Newtown?).. anyway, that's jmo.. http://www.dw.de/sydney-gunman-had-history-of-mental-instability/a-18133289 http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/17/aaron-alexis-another-improperly-treated-mentally-ill-man-becomes-mass-killer/ Prior to the attack he proclaimed his support of ISIS. To argue that he was imbalanced means he could not be a terrorist is irrational. Terrorists are by there nature often imbalanced. Please stop taking this poor deranged individual seriously. He was so incompetent that he neglected to bring his IS banner with him and so had to include the provision of an IS flag as one of the demands he made to the authorities ..... By turning it into a serious terrorist incident you are playing directly into the hands of IS who would love to be able to claim that their reach extends far beyond the borders of their 'Caliphate'. If there is a terrorism-related aspect to this sad incident, it is in the way the people of Sydney reacted to the event, reaching out to our Muslim community and together standing tall against the forces of hate and bigotry. This has ensured that bigots and fundamentalists (on all sides, including our right wing fundies and loonies) have been sidelined and silenced. The silence of the usual suspects on the Right, normally too quick to jump onto any anti-Muslim bandwagon, has been deafening. Here in Australia, no one is pointing the finger at Islam, Iran or Iranians, or terrorists. Most people here accept that the perp was a deeply troubled individual with serious mental and legal challenges, acting on his own initiative. The only place I see people pointing fingers are here on these boards, usually by people far removed from the event, people with their own Islamophobic agendas to push. I wish they could follow the lead of Australia's Islamophobes and grace the discussion with their silence. I only take him as seriously as I do any other nutcase who goes out to kill people. Proclaiming everyone who are see the obvious terror inspiration in this to be Islamaphobes is hiding your head in the sand. If you insist on taking this demented soul seriously that's your choice. It doesn't seem justified by the facts that are in the public domain at the moment. I can report that the kinds of security-related questions being asked here are along the lines of: How did a person with such a long history of violence obtain access to firearms? How did he apparently maintain this access despite being charged with c40 counts of sexual assault, and with involvement in the murder of his ex-wife? * How did a person with his history obtain bail on the string of sexual assault charges he is currently facing? * How did a person with his history fall off the security agencies 'watch list' c5 years ago and stay off it despite his subsequent arrest on sexual assault and accessory to murder charges? Perhaps further questions will emerge as more facts about the siege and the perp emerge but the above is the focus of inquiry here at the moment. Only one of the three questions has any kind of terrorism connection and even then the connection is far from direct. Perhaps because no one wanted to be accused of racism.

Politesub53 -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/17/2014 10:56:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee Perhaps because no one wanted to be accused of racism. To put it as politely as it deserves, you are talking bollocks. Just as those in the UK saw the beading of the poor soul in North London a few months ago as the act of a disturbed mind, those in Australia are not so blinkered as most republicans seem to be. I wont say all republicans, there must surely be a few of you who are not fucking stupid. Kudos to the Aussies for doing the right thing. http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/12/15/3603590/australian-muslims-hostage-taker-amazing-response/

kdsub -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/17/2014 11:25:38 AM)
Politesub I will call bollocks on you… and tweak…and anyone else that thinks these acts throughout the world committed by many thousands of individuals are the result of mental illness. There are just too many and most are the followers of Islam. I know more than my share of the mentally ill and it is an insult to them to say they are capable of murder under any circumstances. Now you can call them mentally ill if you like… but let me express my opinion that if they are mentally ill they are murders first… then nuts second… and if you were to cure their mental illness you would still have a murderer. Butch

Politesub53 -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/17/2014 11:36:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub Politesub I will call bollocks on you… and tweak…and anyone else that thinks these acts throughout the world committed by many thousands of individuals are the result of mental illness. There are just too many and most are the followers of Islam. I know more than my share of the mentally ill and it is an insult to them to say they are capable of murder under any circumstances. Now you can call them mentally ill if you like… but let me express my opinion that if they are mentally ill they are murders first… then nuts second… and if you were to cure their mental illness you would still have a murderer. Butch Get a grip Butch, are you suggesting murdering psychopaths are fit and well ? I know you have insane people in the US, some of them have already posted in this thread. Your rants are becoming more Islamophobic by the day. To give you a fucking reminder, the guy who killed the woman in North London had also been beheading cats. The real sickness is those so called "Christians" on here trying to link all Muslims in with those of unstable minds and terrorists.

Greta75 -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/17/2014 4:08:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 Sure you did. You make up so much bullshit it is hard to keep track. I hang around alot more Muslims than you do. So obviously you aren't expose to as much of their bullshit. Come to a hardcore show in SG, it's all anti-jew preaches, how jews are the real terrorists, and the scene is dominated by Muslims and always raising money for Palestine and their plight. It's sad I love the same music as them, and going out to support local bands, means having to listen to all their Islamic based political preachings. It's like christian hardcore if you attend a christian hardcore show, I am sure there are plenty in the US, they got that, and it's all christian preaching. But I guess the only solidarity I have with them, is we are both angsty, but about different issues. Them with jews ruling the world and me just with my personal anger at my parents.

Greta75 -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/17/2014 4:21:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Being a Sydneysider, I am of course quite biased but I do believe that our reaction to this incident offers an example of how to respond to terrorist attacks that the world could do well to study and learn from. Rather than attacking and further marginalising minority groups and subcultures, we chose to stand by our Muslim community, to protect it against our own home-grown bigots and to unite and jointly stand against the forces of hate and bigotry. . The only thing Australians did right, is that their local Muslim groups condemned the action publicly, and the media heavily publicized it. This is very lacking in many other terrorists attacks. It made a difference when local Muslim groups don't keep silent when shit like this happen, and actually speak out against it. So kudos to that! Our Singaporean Muslim groups would have done exactly the same for any terrorism attack. Infact, when terrorists get captured in our country, the local Muslim community is taking responsibility to "decondition" his terrorist leanings, by re-education of the more complicated peaceful allegory translations of the Quran. As with 9/11, many Muslims groups world wide were saying is, it's USA fault for provoking the Muslims to do that! And the media kept publicizing that. Actually, the media has alot power to shape events and people's feelings.

kdsub -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/17/2014 6:47:28 PM)
There are at least a 100,000 or so in Syria and Iraq...who knows how many in Pakistan...let alone Afghanistan... You just cannot in good conscience claim they are all mentally ill... yet their crimes are even worse than the asshole in Sydney 100 fold. Get a grip indeed... how about opening your eyes to reality. Butch

tj444 -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/18/2014 8:35:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub quote: It seems that this person had mental issues/instability.. Do you also think the beheadings are an act of the mentally ill... Do you think the purposeful killing of 137 innocent children are the act of the mentally ill... do you think the purposeful bombing and killing of 80 children an act of the mentally ill...Do you think the shooting of little girls in the head or acid in the face because of wanting to learn an act of the mentally ill? Do you think the purposeful flying of planes into skyscrapers and the death of 3, 000 the act of the mentally ill...To say the above is to say those that follow radical Islam are bat shit crazy... You are right. Butch no, organized terrorism with multiple terrorists isnt an act of the mentally ill.. I am referring only to the lone wolf incidents.. none of the examples I gave were of more than one person committing them together.. so stop twisting what I said..

tj444 -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/18/2014 8:46:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 this is a Fast Reply- It seems that this person had mental issues/instability.. so how is this a terrorism thing any more than someone killing because he/she heard voices telling him/her to kill their children to "save" them or send them to a "better place" or someone saying Satan told them to.. or a mentally ill husband who takes his wife and kids hostage or commits murder suicide.. or of any other delusions a mentally ill person would come up with? It seems to me that many of these types of incidents are a result of mental problems that are not treated or properly treated and that should be a greater focus.. wasn't there another thread here a while ago about a mentally ill person turned killer & how the health care system fails the mentally ill? (maybe Newtown?).. anyway, that's jmo.. http://www.dw.de/sydney-gunman-had-history-of-mental-instability/a-18133289 http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/17/aaron-alexis-another-improperly-treated-mentally-ill-man-becomes-mass-killer/ It seems as though you have forgotten the first rule of being a terrorist and that is to Terrorize. Terror is a tactic, not a faith or a mental illness. Following your line of thinking, a husband/boyfriend who kills his wife/gf and kids is also a terrorist.. [8\|] You can be "terrorized" at work by your employer who threatens to fire you and end your livelihood if you don't do what he/she wants so your boss is also a terrorist.. I am tired of everything being labeled as "terrorism".. make the wrong joke at an airport and you will be labeled as a terrorist.. ffs, even the OWS protesters were labeled (in a report) as "terrorists" by the feds.. The use of the "T" word (especially when not justified) just gives the govt and police the excuse to restrict everyone's freedoms and rights..

Politesub53 -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/18/2014 4:43:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 I hang around alot more Muslims than you do. Sure you do. quote: So obviously you aren't expose to as much of their bullshit. Come to a hardcore show in SG, it's all anti-jew preaches, how jews are the real terrorists, and the scene is dominated by Muslims and always raising money for Palestine and their plight. Given the overall population of Singapore, and the lowish number of Muslims there, do you really want to compare figures with London and still claim you have met more Muslims than I have ? Both Muslim populations are a similar size. quote: It's sad I love the same music as them, and going out to support local bands, means having to listen to all their Islamic based political preachings. It is fucking laughable that you mention you have to listen to hard core Islamic preaching in order to see a band. The only person likely to believe this shit is....... YOU.

Politesub53 -> RE: What is happening in Sydney? (12/18/2014 4:46:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kdsub There are at least a 100,000 or so in Syria and Iraq...who knows how many in Pakistan...let alone Afghanistan... You just cannot in good conscience claim they are all mentally ill... yet their crimes are even worse than the asshole in Sydney 100 fold. Get a grip indeed... how about opening your eyes to reality. Butch Dont make me laugh again Butch, now you are comparing all Muslim terrorists with the mentally ill. I never did that, i just claimed the guy in Sydney and the guy in North London are mentally ill, this is backed up by known facts released by the authorities. If anyone needs to oper their eyes to reality, it certainly isnt me.

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