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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/13/2006 8:17:38 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		LOL, UR that is the sign of someone real..All you young kids can maybe go about 45 seconds........

I think I can last about 15 now (been awhile, age is showing)  but the reality is at 16 seconds I am gonna be on my knees begging  you to kill me so I don't have to try and get air someplace. Because there is not that much space in the world. If you make it that far, you have a very good chance.

At least one person here knows what I am saying.

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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/13/2006 8:37:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ranger, that's true.
I liked Perot and voted for him.
Another very intelligent person is Pat Buchanan. Seems like everything he warned us about over the years is comming true!
Just like we have a seperation between church and state we should have a seperation between big business and state!
And those lobbyists on "K" street have to go too!
Caitlyn, I seriously doubt that the draft dodger would have taken my lunch.I grew up in a tough Irish/Italian neighborhood in the Boston area

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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/14/2006 9:31:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
That he wasted what he could accomplish as President on a BJ and made the focus of his second term be on his sex life.


I don't even know how to respond to this Mercnbeth. Righteous idignation about a blowjob, posted on a BDSM website, just loses me.
 
Perhaps the blame should be shared between former President Clinton, and the people that a) just wouldn't let it go, b) haven't learned to mind their own business.

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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/14/2006 9:50:11 AM   
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I don't even know how to respond to this Mercnbeth. Righteous idignation about a blowjob, posted on a BDSM website, just loses me.

 
caitlyn,
You missed the point. My issue was President Clinton's term was wasted through his actions. It could have been the fact that he watched porn on his office computer, or that he jaywalked. If he responded to the challenge by saying; "Yeah - I got a BJ from Monica, so what? Hilliary's really a lesbian and we married for image sake only. Monica, and the other bimbos I sneak in using the JFK memorial underground white house tunnel, are the only way I get any." I would have spearheaded a movement to amending the constitution so he could serve a third term.

There is no indignation against the act, at least not by me. Although I found his choice of a 'humidor' inconsistent with bringing out the flavor of a great Cuban cheroot.

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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/14/2006 10:04:00 AM   
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Caitlyn, the problem is that for guys like me who were in the Military during Vietnam Clinton is just a low life. When he heard that his unit was going to be activated and go to Vietnam he chickened out! He bailed!
He's not and will never be what's called an "Alpha Male."
("I didn't do it! I didn't do it!") Man, he just doesn't have any Balls!
I don't like Bush but he has it way over Clinton in that he, at least "suited up." Maybe he didn't "show up" all the time.
I don't like to get into that "Con" "Lib" thing because I'm neither.
If Clinton ran as a Republican he'd still be a low life in my book.
If Bush was a Democrat he'd still be brain dead and a schill for big business.
If you want to idolise someone try someone who's not in politics or Hollywood.
Yup, BILL was good for the economy; BILL GATES.

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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/14/2006 11:01:45 AM   
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So, what you are selling, is that had he admitted the mistake, the right wing would have let it go?
 
While I rarely agree with your political views, I have always respect them greatly. This isn't one of those times. You are living in a dream world on this issue in my opinion. Had Clinton admitted anything, the right wing would have done everything they could to get him thrown out of office. His wife's political career would have been destroyed. Former Vice President Gore would have had to publicly stab him in the back, in order to promote his own political ends.

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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/14/2006 11:07:27 AM   
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I liked Perot and voted for him.
Another very intelligent person is Pat Buchanan. Seems like everything he warned us about over the years is comming true!
Just like we have a seperation between church and state we should have a seperation between big business and state!
And those lobbyists on "K" street have to go too!
Caitlyn, I seriously doubt that the draft dodger would have taken my lunch.I grew up in a tough Irish/Italian neighborhood in the Boston area


I'm not sure about the whole story but Perot gave the excuse that the ''Republican Dirty tricks crowd'' tried to subvert his daughter's wedding and that was the reason for his pull-out. The whole thing fell apart after that. What kills me is that most folks think Bill Clinton really won that election. But had it not been for Perot and Rodney King, Bush woulda beat Clinton hands down. I really do miss those infomercials, though. You coulda learned more from them than a semester in a macro-economics course.

Pat Buchanan is honest and brilliant, but he's never been able to shake the label the press attached to him after those anti-Semite comments.



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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/14/2006 11:46:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Caitlyn, that's my point, it really doesn't matter to me if Clinton "admitted" anything or not.
I just don't like the "man" or his politics period.
What did he ever do while in office?
Him and Gore took credit for an economy that was doing well and would have done well if we had ressurected Hitler and put him in office.
On the other side everything Bush does is for big business and nothing for the people.
I don't believe in either extreme.
I'd just like to have a "normal" person in the White House who cares about this country and it's people!
No wealthy people, no more "Lawyers", no more globalists, no more people who've spent too much time in colleges and universities.
And we need to clarify the "Job Description" of President too!
Far too many of them have spent way too much time on foreign affairs and  not attending to the country's business.
They are (Supposed) to be running *our government* not a charity for foreign countries.
All the Republicans and Democrats do is polorize people.
It's time to move on to something different!
Instead of invading Iraq if they know that that Bin Laden is in Pakistan then go right in and get the S.O.B.!
Who cares about "sovereignty", does Mexico care about our sovereignty?
And thankyou for respecting my opinions. I may disagree with you sometimes but I do respect your opinion on issues too.

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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/14/2006 11:58:50 AM   
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There is really no sense in responding past that, as no matter what good was done, you will find a reason why it wasn't the doing of your hated enemy.

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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/14/2006 1:18:20 PM   
popeye1250


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"Angry White Man's Disease?"

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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/14/2006 1:42:56 PM   
UtopianRanger


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Caitlyn, I have no enemies.
"Angry White Man's Disease?"



Don't bite, brother. Go to e-bay or amazon and pick yourself up a copy of ''Deception'' by Charles R. Smith, one of the foremost experts in our relationship regards Warfare / Geo-political landscape that surrounds China.

These folks are talking about interns and blow jobs when Clinton authorized the sale of some of the most sophisticated super computers and guidance technology that allowed the Chinese missile program to come out of the Stone Age{Which they in turn sell to client states such as North Korea and Iran}The Chinese, by way of Slick Willie, gained thirty-five to forty years { Technological capability} in just nine years.

Not only did he severely hurt our national security..... most of these advancements in defense related technology, were paid for by huge grants and tax breaks for corporations via the government. Essentially, our own middle class tax base subsidized China's emergence from the Paleo period.



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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/14/2006 2:59:58 PM   
caitlyn


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Status: offline 		All I asked was what people had against former President Clinton, and said that it seemed like he did a pretty good job, all things being equal. You should not assume that this is a blind backing post. I'm not that polarized towards any single position ... but likewise, I'm not going to play the "blame them all" game. You don't see me hammer on President Bush either, but instead, clearly state that it's a tough job and mistakes are made.
 
After 31 posts, someone has finally come up with something better then blowjobs and what happened in 196-something.
 
The super computer sales was a small issue ... the satellite technology with clear military applications, was worse.
 
The French and British were already set to sell the super computer technology to the Chinese. What the United States basically gave them, was actually slightly inferior to what they were set to buy, primarily from France.
 
The satellite technology is a completely different animal, as it represents technology the Chinese couldn't have gotten from anyone but the United States. The way it was done, was "Slich Willy" slick, too.
 
The United States also sold machine tools that can be used to make cruise missiles, listing them as being used to make C-17 aircraft. Chine has never built a C-17, but has quite a few cruise missiles.
 
All this outrage, of course, assumes that China is out enemy, which may not be the case.

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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/14/2006 3:17:47 PM   
caitlyn


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"Don't bite brother.", etc ... is so totally angry white man's disease.
 
See, you automatically find the bad in anything. You even found it in my post, when it wasn't even there. All I did, was ask a question in response to a tirade about frat boys.
 
I honestly don't get white males, especially middle aged ones. No class of people seem to have to much, and bitch so much.

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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/14/2006 3:54:36 PM   
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The super computer sales was a small issue
  It was, huh?  The computers allow the Chinese to test the Warheads without detonating them someplace, thus providing us with vital information regards success /failure via satellite.   If the warheads are not detonated at a resonate altitude, they don’t work very well. The computers are key in this very sophisticated simulation process. They are very important!

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The French and British were already set to sell the super computer technology to the Chinese. What the United States basically gave them, was actually slightly inferior to what they were set to buy, primarily from France.
 
If that’s yours and others justification for surrendering technology vital to our national security -- to an oppressive, communist government-- I’d say we’re in a lot more trouble than I had previously thought.  
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All this outrage, of course, assumes that China is out enemy, which may not be the case.
 
Even if you could argue a good case that China is indeed our friend {which you can not } your argument would be nullified by virtue of the Chinese transferring that technology to Iran and North Korea


I'll only dignify your next post by saying you and I both know that it was made out of ignorance and frustration, knowing that you are incapable of formulating a rebuttal argument.

You took a nasty shot at Popeye for no reason in his thread - So live with yourself.



Have a killer weekend ; }



 - R




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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/14/2006 4:17:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger
I'll only dignify your next post by saying you and I both know that it was made out of ignorance and frustration, knowing that you are incapable of formulating a rebuttal argument.


Maybe you know that ... all I know is that it was supposed to be hyper-sarcastic fun, poked at whomever was reading, and whomever would bite. I guess I thought two winks in four lines would be a dead giveaway.
 
In case it wasn't, lets try this. I'm the "angry white girl" that was bitching two days ago, about not having enough towels in hotels in the UK. Don't you just hate angry white girls?
 
You have a good weekend too. I have to work all three nights ... sucks to be me.

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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/15/2006 7:05:17 AM   
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Take a deep breath and think for a moment.  No, the President generally does not have much to do with how the economy is running, BUT they can do a great deal to screw it up.  Clinton and Gore never screwed up the economy while our dear resident idiot the Bush has ignored it at best and damaged it in his other moments.  The best thing Clinton did for most of his terms was keep everyone in the Middle East in their own corners for the most part.  He put much effort, with great sucess, at keeping them off of one anothers throats.  This has not been the case during the time of the Bush.  The region has degenerated into Chaos and is now on the brink of a full scale war.  They see us tied down in  (what was a pointless war) Iraq and have no fear of what we might do.  Why does this matter?  Oil prices flying to record highs and do you honestly want to think about fuel supplies and cost if Iran jumps into the fray?  Look at the oil price increases in just the last two days, should a full scale war develop oil prices will probably top $100 a barrel before the end of the day.  That will have a huge impact on the economy of this country.  Bush shrugs his shoulders and says oh well while steering the Titanic towards the iceberg.  Clinton would have already waded in to try cool things down.  You do not need to like Bill Clinton to be able to see that one of the best things he did while he was in office was keeping some degree of stability and peace in that region which in turn helped keep oil prices and supply from disruption.

The President, (no matter who it is) has great control over the economy by the direction they lead the nation.  Clinton deserved credit for the things he did which kept the nation stable and didn't screw up the economy.  Bush?  Well we can all see what his "wisdom" is bringing us.

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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/16/2006 1:06:52 AM   
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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/16/2006 1:58:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		When a teen Clinton stood up to his abusive drunken step dad and stopped the abuse in his house.  He didn't write that man off either he staid with his step dad as a son.  When His step father was dieing he went to his hospital room and read to him and spent time with him.  That is the type of man President Clinton was.  As for his second term being about a sex scandal.  That was special prosecutor Star.  A special prosecutor can't be pulled off of a case except by a majority vote from congress.  Everyone knows that that wouldn't happen in congress at all under those circumstances.  If I remember correctly the investigation started over wrong doings in white water when Star couldn't find any provable wrong doings there he widened his search for any wrong doing any where.  We ended up spending  over a billion dollars to find out he got a hummer in the oval office.  Other presidents kept mistress' in the white house and there was no call for their impeachment or an investigation into their personal life. 

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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/16/2006 2:10:39 AM   
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RE: Tired of Frat Boys! - 7/16/2006 4:42:36 AM   
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