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ORIGINAL: quizzicalkitten

Because Really Im Tired of it The only time someone says they are going to move because of violence in the last 2 years....

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3810267/mpage_8/tm.htm

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ORIGINAL: FirstQuaker

I do when I am up north, either in Canada or Alaska but normally use a lever action carbine, with the sort of animals I might need to use a weapon on even the most powerful handguns are marginal. Sometimes I take my .22 pistol, for small game and pest shooting, as rifle ammunition is both expensive and overkill..

I have one of the "Canada pistols" which the family has owned since the 1920's and even carried it occupationally years ago, but the revolver likely belongs in a museum nowadays. If I had to use or carry a only a pistol to fight people, it is good for that purpose.

I would move if the area I lived in got to the point I would have carry firearms as protection against other people in order to live in it, and the people living there refused to address the problem.

Now, Edwynn didnt say this, but this post is in a similar style of writing, and Edwynn was very prominent on that threat and talked about moving, and being robbed on this indicated thread for about 10 or so posts.


Can you two apologize to each other and we can get on with our regularly scheduled sniping fest?

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Okay lets get back to the matter at hand.
A little look at the genesis of the Second Amendment

http://truth-out.org/news/item/13890-the-second-amendment-was-ratified-to-preserve-slavery


Just food for thought concerning original intent and all that

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Okay lets get back to the matter at hand.
A little look at the genesis of the Second Amendment

http://truth-out.org/news/item/13890-the-second-amendment-was-ratified-to-preserve-slavery



Just food for thought concerning original intent and all that

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Compromise ?

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Compromise ?

No, virtual universal agreement.
The compromise with the 2nd was between those who felt it was so obvious that it did not need an amendment and those who wanted to word it more strongly for the individual.
I do have to admit that you have already displayed more intelligence that Nos did in the whole thread.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Seems to me a distinction without a difference,given the carnage that ensued(Sandy Hook and the ar -15)

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Seems to me a distinction without a difference,given the carnage that ensued(Sandy Hook and the ar -15)

Then you're a liberal. Surprise.
You really don't get what an M-16 can do. Any soldier who's fired one...me, other vets on here...can tell you there would've been a higher head count that day with an M-16.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Seems to me a distinction without a difference,given the carnage that ensued(Sandy Hook and the ar -15)

Then you're a liberal. Surprise.
You really don't get what an M-16 can do. Any soldier who's fired one...me, other vets on here...can tell you there would've been a higher head count that day with an M-16.

So just how many dead kids would you have found unbearable ?
Just where is your tipping point ?

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Seems to me a distinction without a difference,given the carnage that ensued(Sandy Hook and the ar -15)

Then you're a liberal. Surprise.
You really don't get what an M-16 can do. Any soldier who's fired one...me, other vets on here...can tell you there would've been a higher head count that day with an M-16.

So just how many dead kids would you have found unbearable ?
Just where is your tipping point ?

Nice try at a diversionary question which as absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic at hand.

I believe it is you that has argued the mental problems of the ass who gunned down two cops rather than acknowledge any sort of fault of the cop-haters. Columbine and Sandy Hook were both the results of mentally deranged young men, not normal gun owners.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Seems to me a distinction without a difference,given the carnage that ensued(Sandy Hook and the ar -15)

Then you're a liberal. Surprise.
You really don't get what an M-16 can do. Any soldier who's fired one...me, other vets on here...can tell you there would've been a higher head count that day with an M-16.

So just how many dead kids would you have found unbearable ?
Just where is your tipping point ?

Nice try at a diversionary question which as absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic at hand.

I believe it is you that has argued the mental problems of the ass who gunned down two cops rather than acknowledge any sort of fault of the cop-haters. Columbine and Sandy Hook were both the results of mentally deranged young men, not normal gun owners.

Agreed.
Mentally deranged young men,who under the current circumstances ,had easy and ready access to weapons.
Thanks for playing....and thanks for seeing the problem so clearly

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

But the rest of us are paying for your easy access to weapons.....the same laws that guarantee you the right to the type and amounts of weapons you desire also make it easier for the unstable to gain access....of course you won't see the connection,but that is no surprise to me


But there is a middle ground,since all you are interested in is the right for responsible adults than you should have no problem with universal background checks.
As a responsible gun owner you would have no concern about a background check,right ?

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Seems to me a distinction without a difference,given the carnage that ensued(Sandy Hook and the ar -15)

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Seems to me a distinction without a difference,given the carnage that ensued(Sandy Hook and the ar -15)

Then you're a liberal. Surprise.
You really don't get what an M-16 can do. Any soldier who's fired one...me, other vets on here...can tell you there would've been a higher head count that day with an M-16.

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Seems to me a distinction without a difference,given the carnage that ensued(Sandy Hook and the ar -15)

The carnage would have been the same or worse with a shotgun or .357 magnums and a whole crap load of other firearms types outside of the semi auto class.

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".....if you take all the guns off the street you still will have a crime problem, whereas if you take the criminals off the street you cannot have a gun problem.”
Jeff Cooper

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ORIGINAL: epiphiny43

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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".....if you take all the guns off the street you still will have a crime problem, whereas if you take the criminals off the street you cannot have a gun problem.”
Jeff Cooper

As specious an argument as exists. And I really respect Jeff for his expertise, which is on far fewer subjects than he thinks. Like the rest of us?

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I wasn't using that as an argument. It's my signature line. Taking what Jeff said to its extreme would be nearly impossible. The point he was trying to make I think is that taking criminals off the street as opposed to guns will have a more positive effect on the crime stats.

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