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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/18/2015 7:44:01 PM   
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I didn't say anything about the article being bigoted, I said YOU would use it to prove your bigotry. Not that your posts don't speak for themselves.

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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/18/2015 7:44:39 PM   
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What's the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament?

Jesus.


Why does Jesus matter?


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Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/18/2015 7:48:05 PM   
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That is one of your biggest problems. You think that asshat speaks for the right and he doesn't.



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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/19/2015 1:32:56 PM   
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My point which most seem to be missing is that Sharia Law is straight out of the Old Testament book of Leviticus which is the SAME part of the Bible that a lot of RW policymakers use to drum up support for their causes.

Except, it's based on the Quran and examples of a proper Muslim lifestyle, given by Muhammad. The Book of Revelations was written before 100 AD, while Muhammad wasn't around until 400 years or so later. And, anything written after Revelations is considered to not be the Word of God.
The Jewish faith considers Muhammad a false prophet. Why would they have anything to do with following the laws written by Muhammad?
Ergo, your whole point is false.

So you haven't read Leviticus and aren't familiar with sharia Law except what the popular media spouts. I get it
Where do you think the mohammed got it?


Muhammad was "spoken to" by "Allah." That's where the Quran came from. Even if it's similar to Leviticus, that still doesn't make it "Biblical."

What's the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament?



Those who believe in God are supposed to follow both except for the 'burnt offerings' part.

Remember, the 10 commandments are on the Old Testament.

Are you saying that they're irrelevant as well?



Yes, mohammed the (alleged) pedo was 'spoken to' by Allah.
Does that make him different from any other so called Prophet?

One thing that a lot of hard core folks on all the sides don't get is that God, Yaheh and Allah is the SAME FUCKING THING.
This is the whole point of this thread. Ignorance abounds as people just don't know that all the groups believe in the same entity.


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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/19/2015 1:41:30 PM   
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"One thing that a lot of hard core folks on all the sides don't get is that God, Yaheh and Allah is the SAME FUCKING THING."

and you know that how?

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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/19/2015 1:53:15 PM   
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and you question that why and how?

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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/19/2015 2:10:03 PM   
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"One thing that a lot of hard core folks on all the sides don't get is that God, Yaheh and Allah is the SAME FUCKING THING."

and you know that how?

It is well known that Jehovah and Yaheh are the same entity.
It is less well known, that, according to Mohammad, Allah is the same entity.

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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/19/2015 2:34:05 PM   
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Hill what is your reasoning for the burnt offering exception? If you don't mind me asking. I know why for Jews. But it's not in the bible. All religions use more than their core holy book.

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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/19/2015 2:37:51 PM   
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"One thing that a lot of hard core folks on all the sides don't get is that God, Yaheh and Allah is the SAME FUCKING THING."

and you know that how?

It is well known that Jehovah and Yaheh are the same entity.
It is less well known, that, according to Mohammad, Allah is the same entity.



Well, less well known is that Allah is the guy out of the old testament, Mohammad notwithstanding, it sure is a buttfucking close coincidence at the least.

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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/19/2015 2:38:41 PM   
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"One thing that a lot of hard core folks on all the sides don't get is that God, Yaheh and Allah is the SAME FUCKING THING."

and you know that how?

My guess is by basic education.



All three are Abrahamic religions, with indeed common roots, common prophets, common beliefs.

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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/19/2015 2:47:30 PM   
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Those who believe in God are supposed to follow both except for the 'burnt offerings' part.
Remember, the 10 commandments are on the Old Testament.
Are you saying that they're irrelevant as well?


Do you know the difference, or are you just going to blather on in an attempt to further make your failed point?

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Yes, mohammed the (alleged) pedo was 'spoken to' by Allah.
Does that make him different from any other so called Prophet?


First off, he isn't considered a prophet (unless you count "false prophets" as also being prophets) to Judaism or Christianity. The Quran is a lie, according to the Book of Revelations. Thus, there are many differences between Muhammad and other Jewish and Christian prophets.

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One thing that a lot of hard core folks on all the sides don't get is that God, Yaheh and Allah is the SAME FUCKING THING.
This is the whole point of this thread. Ignorance abounds as people just don't know that all the groups believe in the same entity.


Are you so sure about that?


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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/19/2015 3:23:14 PM   
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The Quran is a lie, according to the Book of Revelations.

Since the Qur'an was written in the 7th century, and the Book of Revelations in the 1st century, that's some pretty fancy fortune telling. Or is it time travel?

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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/19/2015 3:26:10 PM   
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The Quran is a lie, according to the Book of Revelations.

Since the Qur'an was written in the 7th century, and the Book of Revelations in the 1st century, that's some pretty fancy fortune telling. Or is it time travel?

No, Revelations declare that it is the final prophesy and that those who will follow will be false prophets. No fortune telling needed.

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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/19/2015 3:39:28 PM   
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What's the difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament?

Jesus.


One is older than the other ?
One doesnt count to Republicans ?
One has sillier names ?
One is all Greek to me ?

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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/19/2015 5:28:19 PM   
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The Quran is a lie, according to the Book of Revelations.

Since the Qur'an was written in the 7th century, and the Book of Revelations in the 1st century, that's some pretty fancy fortune telling. Or is it time travel?


So sayeth the clueless...


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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/19/2015 5:31:29 PM   
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The Quran is a lie, according to the Book of Revelations.

Since the Qur'an was written in the 7th century, and the Book of Revelations in the 1st century, that's some pretty fancy fortune telling. Or is it time travel?

No, Revelations declare that it is the final prophesy and that those who will follow will be false prophets. No fortune telling needed.


Yup.

Thus, Muhammad was a false prophet, the Quran is a lie, and anything based on the Quran and Muhammad's "teachings" are not all that holy.


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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/19/2015 5:33:44 PM   
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What's kind of funny is that Revelations is a book of predictions for the future.

But the basic logic of your point that anyone (who accepts Revelations as the word of god) would consider any later 'prophets' to be false (since reelations declares it is the final word, interestingly the Koran says it is the final word and Muhamaed is the final prophet) is too complicated for MM to follow I guess.

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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/19/2015 7:23:51 PM   
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Yeah. That must be it.

Clever argument. You're a sharp one.

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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/19/2015 7:27:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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The Quran is a lie, according to the Book of Revelations.

Since the Qur'an was written in the 7th century, and the Book of Revelations in the 1st century, that's some pretty fancy fortune telling. Or is it time travel?

No, Revelations declare that it is the final prophesy and that those who will follow will be false prophets. No fortune telling needed.


Prophecy -
1. the foretelling or prediction of what is to come.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prophecy

Fortune Telling -
1. the act or practice of predicting the future.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fortune%20telling?s=t

Seems pretty close to me.


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RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? - 1/19/2015 8:21:12 PM   
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FR

The Blind Men and the Elephant
John Godfrey Saxe (1816–1887)

It was six men of Indostan
To learning much inclined,
Who went to see the Elephant
(Though all of them were blind),
That each by observation
Might satisfy his mind

The First approached the Elephant,
And happening to fall
Against his broad and sturdy side,
At once began to bawl:
“God bless me! but the Elephant
Is very like a wall!”

The Second, feeling of the tusk,
Cried, “Ho! what have we here
So very round and smooth and sharp?
To me ’tis mighty clear
This wonder of an Elephant
Is very like a spear!”

The Third approached the animal,
And happening to take
The squirming trunk within his hands,
Thus boldly up and spake:
“I see,” quoth he, “the Elephant
Is very like a snake!

The Fourth reached out an eager hand,
And felt about the knee.
“What most this wondrous beast is like
Is mighty plain,” quoth he;
” ‘Tis clear enough the Elephant
Is very like a tree!”

The Fifth, who chanced to touch the ear,
Said: “E’en the blindest man
Can tell what this resembles most;
Deny the fact who can
This marvel of an Elephant
Is very like a fan!”

The Sixth no sooner had begun
About the beast to grope,
Than, seizing on the swinging tail
That fell within his scope,
“I see,” quoth he, “the Elephant
Is very like a rope!”

And so these men of Indostan
Disputed loud and long,
Each in his own opinion
Exceeding stiff and strong,
Though each was partly in the right,
And all were in the wrong!

Moral:

So oft in theologic wars,
The disputants, I ween,
Rail on in utter ignorance
Of what each other mean,
And prate about an Elephant
Not one of them has seen!


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