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PeonForHer -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 3:16:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Yeah... All Christians are horrible people... You just keep treading that toilet water I am curious though. Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Barack Obama & his church of 'hate whitey', most prominent Democrats claim to be Christians How does that fit into your trollish meme OK - members of the Church of the Latter Day Morons do see things somewhat differently.

Sanity -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 3:20:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Everything to you is all or none, so you assume everything to everyone else is all or none. It isn't. Your all or none is in posts 52 and 56, moose Edited to correct the post #s

Sanity -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 3:21:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Yeah... All Christians are horrible people... You just keep treading that toilet water I am curious though. Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Barack Obama & his church of 'hate whitey', most prominent Democrats claim to be Christians How does that fit into your trollish meme OK - members of the Church of the Latter Day Morons do see things somewhat differently. That would be Harry Reids' church

Hillwilliam -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 3:22:03 PM)
Meanwhile back on the topic.[8\|] Got something to contribute, sanity or are you just flapping your yap? Why are you afraid of Sharia Law?

Sanity -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 3:31:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Meanwhile back on the topic.[8\|] Got something to contribute, sanity or are you just flapping your yap? Why are you afraid of Sharia Law? Christian bashing isnt the topic?

Hillwilliam -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 3:38:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Meanwhile back on the topic.[8\|] Got something to contribute, sanity or are you just flapping your yap? Why are you afraid of Sharia Law? Christian bashing isnt the topic? If you could read, you'd know it isn't. I used to think that your profile was actually run by a far left troll wanting to satirize the Right and make them look stupid. I now realize that you're the real McCoy.[sm=lol.gif]

Sanity -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 4:07:36 PM)
Oh, I get it You're a troll, and I'M the topic As always

BamaD -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 4:13:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Meanwhile back on the topic.[8\|] Got something to contribute, sanity or are you just flapping your yap? Why are you afraid of Sharia Law? Christian bashing isnt the topic? If you could read, you'd know it isn't. I used to think that your profile was actually run by a far left troll wanting to satirize the Right and make them look stupid. I now realize that you're the real McCoy.[sm=lol.gif] The topic seems to be that you don't understand that the right, not even the Christian right wants a theocracy. In particular the Christian right would not want theocratic law that would make the practice of Christianity a crime. Nothing hard to understand about that, unless you are just trying to make a point by misdirection. To be honest i am seriously disappointed, I would have expected much better of you.

PeonForHer -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 4:19:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam I used to think that your profile was actually run by a far left troll wanting to satirize the Right and make them look stupid. Interesting. I've often wondered if ElChupo is here for the same thing.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 4:37:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD The topic seems to be that you don't understand that the right, not even the Christian right wants a theocracy. Are you sure about that? How many posters here and in other places as well as lawmakers have you seen who start off by stating some form of "The United States was established as a Christian nation and the Constitution is based on the Bible"? Why are the RW lawmakers so up in arms about gay marriage? Do they not quote Leviticus as part of their platform and reason? Why does the Republican party keep trying to overturn Roe v Wade? (which was passed by a majority Republican supreme Court) How did Bachman get her dumb ass out of the kitchen and into Congress? The Bible beaters are now the policy makers. My point which most seem to be missing is that Sharia Law is straight out of the Old Testament book of Leviticus which is the SAME part of the Bible that a lot of RW policymakers use to drum up support for their causes.

TheFlipSideOfMe -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 4:59:45 PM)
I despair over the fuss that people make over their imaginary friends (gods) and argue over what is written in their holy books which are a mixture of fiction, the "theological bit" and the distorted historical fact.

BamaD -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 5:18:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD The topic seems to be that you don't understand that the right, not even the Christian right wants a theocracy. Are you sure about that? How many posters here and in other places as well as lawmakers have you seen who start off by stating some form of "The United States was established as a Christian nation and the Constitution is based on the Bible"? Why are the RW lawmakers so up in arms about gay marriage? Do they not quote Leviticus as part of their platform and reason? Why does the Republican party keep trying to overturn Roe v Wade? (which was passed by a majority Republican supreme Court) How did Bachman get her dumb ass out of the kitchen and into Congress? The Bible beaters are now the policy makers. My point which most seem to be missing is that Sharia Law is straight out of the Old Testament book of Leviticus which is the SAME part of the Bible that a lot of RW policymakers use to drum up support for their causes. And not one of them has suggested an establishment of Old Testament law or the establishment of a theocracy. They misstate the fact. Much of our system of law is based in Judeo-Christian tradition. This is far different from basing it on the Bible. I am quite certain that they do no want a theocracy, it is one of the things the English showed us by example (Cromwell) why it doesn't work. This is the basis of the Freedom of Religion clause in the 1st. I am sure that everyone of them realizes there are too many Christian denominations for it to be workable. Don't know where you get your information but I have never heard anyone call for a return to the law as laid out in Leviticus. There are several parts of the Constitution that would stand in the way. However the 1st is also violated every time they tell a kid they can't wear a cross to school. This, as happens in every thread having anything to do with Islam is used as a thinly veiled excuse to bash Christians.

cloudboy -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 5:19:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/30/dear-evangelicals-you-re-being-had.html • The trouble is, you’re trying to solve cultural problems with political solutions—because politicians have convinced you to do so. I am referring here to establishment Republicans, which for 150 years have consistently been the party of the rich and ungenerous. I'm with GotSteel about religion and out-grouping. The con: being against something -- "liberals," "communists," "Gays," Minorities, Immigrants, terrorists (replacing the communist bogieman) and Muslims outweighs the THE PRO -- being for something. • So, who is using whom here? Have the rich Republicans been good for you, or have you been good to them? The is the ten million dollar question. • That “wall of separation” that liberals like to talk about? The original metaphor was: erect a wall to keep the garden of the church free from the wilderness of politics. This is very well said. • This all feeds into that devil’s bargain with the Republican Party. They stir you up about social issues in order to get you to the polls, and then they don’t really do anything about them. Because, in fact, they can’t. These are cultural questions, not political ones, and they have to be solved in the cultural arena. Yes

BamaD -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 5:24:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD The topic seems to be that you don't understand that the right, not even the Christian right wants a theocracy. Are you sure about that? How many posters here and in other places as well as lawmakers have you seen who start off by stating some form of "The United States was established as a Christian nation and the Constitution is based on the Bible"? Why are the RW lawmakers so up in arms about gay marriage? Do they not quote Leviticus as part of their platform and reason? Why does the Republican party keep trying to overturn Roe v Wade? (which was passed by a majority Republican supreme Court) How did Bachman get her dumb ass out of the kitchen and into Congress? The Bible beaters are now the policy makers. My point which most seem to be missing is that Sharia Law is straight out of the Old Testament book of Leviticus which is the SAME part of the Bible that a lot of RW policymakers use to drum up support for their causes. Your point is wrong. Mohammed borrowed a lot from the Bible and the Torah. But sharia is the way it is interpreted today not 1000 years ago. The Constitution would prohibit a return to Leviticus and would do the same for sharia law, why does anyone act like we should even consider using sharia? If you didn't think it was worth considering why even start a BS thread like this. The only answer is it gives you an excuse to bash Christians.

Politesub53 -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 5:30:15 PM)
I would love to see which laws are based on Judeo Christian traditions and not found in the Bible. Are yes, back to the "bash the Christians meme for anyone who happens to point out a few facts" thus is a cousin of the "bash the Irsareli s meme" which runs along similar lines. [8\|] Odd that many of you can spout about freedom of religion, as long as its your religion.

Moderator3 -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 6:08:46 PM)
I am in a meeting and cannot address what I need to on this thread. So for the moment, please tread lightly. I will be back to explain.

CreativeDominant -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 7:01:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Everything to you is all or none, so you assume everything to everyone else is all or none. It isn't. Except for HillWilliam, maybe? After all, it WAS he that said this: You folks on the Right may not agree with the author's lifestyle but I don't think you can disagree with his message. I'm on the right, William and I've stated before...I don't care if he fucks he or she eats she...it doesn't bother me. I guess my inability to see it as an important issue will either get me sent to hell, into heaven straightaway or it won't matter. As for the substance of his observations? Go back through any paper telling us Republicans or those on the right or Christians what we need to do and you'll find the same points.

dcnovice -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 7:19:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: Those who want to ban the wearing of religious items in public buildings, those who oppose posting copies of the Ten Commandments on personal lockers and notebook covers, those who want to stop someone from wearing a wristband in class that says "protect life" on it are those who you say don't exist. How numerous or influential are these folks? Does it matter? Or, does the US Constitution only apply to some? To my mind, knowing whether these censor wannabes are numerous and/or influential is awfully handy for assessing how grave a threat they pose to the First Amendment. Ymmv, of course.

Moderator3 -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 7:46:23 PM)
I am thanking everyone for not creating havoc when I couldn't explain what was going on. I will not use the name and I don't want anyone else using the name. Most of you will know what I am talking about or can guess. If members don't know, I hope that we can contain this as I am not going to allow it. As they say in the second God Father movie, I will go to the mattress on this one. [:D] From time to time we will have members that have some challenges in life and sometimes it will be clear that there is a problem. Some know what mental illness is first hand and it isn't something you want to poke a stick at. As a staff member I am supposed to serve and protect at moments and assure that I am in keeping with various standards, guidelines and laws even. I will not sit idly by while someone that may or may not have a life challenge, is used to insult or strike fear. No member current or former will be used as a tool on this forum in a manner that would be hurtful to them or anyone else. The ill will not be abused here. I do hope I am making myself clear without the need to say too much. If members take part in the Feisty sections, that is their choice, they face what is allowed. No one will be brought into the Feisty section that did not wish to be here. Most of you know the name I am talking about and if I see it used again, it will mean a very serious act of moderation on my part. Abuse of the ill will not be something I take lightly. I hope you understand and are willing to take a stand and not take part in a situation that amounts to that. I can take care of this forum, know all about socks and bad guys/gals and how to combat whatever this forum could meet with. If I can't, I have someone that can. I might have to pull some all nighters, but I will be here to make sure that things don't go too far. So please, lets stick to the people here on the threads and not use those that may have an illness in a manner that would be abusive. It is time that this forum moved on. Thank you

BamaD -> RE: Why is the Right afraid of Sharia Law? (1/17/2015 7:47:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice quote: Those who want to ban the wearing of religious items in public buildings, those who oppose posting copies of the Ten Commandments on personal lockers and notebook covers, those who want to stop someone from wearing a wristband in class that says "protect life" on it are those who you say don't exist. How numerous or influential are these folks? Does it matter? Or, does the US Constitution only apply to some? To my mind, knowing whether these censor wannabes are numerous and/or influential is awfully handy for assessing how grave a threat they pose to the First Amendment. Ymmv, of course. If school boards across the country are doing this on a regular basis, and it does happen often, you have to admit that the school board having a policy like this has influence on the local people. And teaching children that letting anyone know they are Christian is a threat to the 1st amendment. Where are the people who want hundred year old crosses taken down because of separation of church and state when the state (in the form of a school board) outlaws free expression? If you read the 1st it says you can't establish a state religion, but also that you can't prohibit free exorcise of personal religion.

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