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DaddySatyr -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/21/2015 11:29:42 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

Something relevant to the conversation; why liberals hate fox news:

Fox broke the monopoly on the otherwise liberal media and doesn’t tow the party line.

They don’t want conservative voices to be heard.

Liberals think they are right so there is no need/room for a dissenting position.

Sometimes the truth hurts.



Too right! For, easily, fifty years, the press was made up of college-educated, left-wing-indoctrinated useful idiots who had been taught to spout the party line. Those that were "hidden" and went even the slightest bit off the reservation, found themselves out of a job.

Geraldo Rivera used to be an admired journalist. He was an award-winning journalist. He started out in New York City on the local ABC station and was responsible for getting Willowbrook and Credemore (?Spelling?) shut down. He was a thorn in just about everyone's side. He made it to 20/20, the ABC news evening news magazine. He pissed them off, when he had some negative comments about Roone Arlidge (ABC News chief) not airing a report about the relationships of John F. and Robert Kennedy with Marilyn Monroe.

Roone was a family friend of the Kennedys.

As a result, we got "Al Capone's Vault" which allowed even the right to decry how far he had fallen.

Since butting heads with Arlidge, he's been a pariah. he pissed off the lefties.



Michael




Musicmystery -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/21/2015 11:36:17 AM)

More accurately, one lefty with a friend.

[8|]




CoSubGirl -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/21/2015 12:14:54 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

Something relevant to the conversation; why liberals hate fox news:

Fox broke the monopoly on the otherwise liberal media and doesn’t tow the party line.

They don’t want conservative voices to be heard.

Liberals think they are right so there is no need/room for a dissenting position.

Sometimes the truth hurts.



In this case it's really not about not wanting other voices to be heard. It's about the fact that they reported something as "fact" that was:

1. Not fact
and
2. Easy to check as to whether or not the "expert" was telling the truth or stating facts (he later admitted that he was wrong)

Part of journalism is fact checking.......if you get an expert to come on your program and state stuff as "fact" you should make sure they actually know their stuff and are going to actually state verifiable facts on your program as opposed to stating bullshit so stupid that they get called a "complete idiot" by the Prime Minister of the UK and you have to stumble over yourself apologizing for bad journalism.




Moderator3 -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/21/2015 12:37:13 PM)

I have just added to the section guidelines, something that has been a long standing rule, but there was little need for it because other rules covered it with personal attacks, etc. It was used when it applied and I must bring it forward because there is more of a need in the Feisty sections.

I don't have time this week to do a number of things and looking up when this rule was used on the forum isn't something I have time for, but it is there. If you would like to look yourself, you might search words that Mod21 posted on this guideline. I know it's there because I saw it a couple times when I first came on as M3 and was doing a lot of research.

Mentioning the name of another member in a derogatory manner, on a thread they are not on, isn't allowed. That becomes harassment and could be a few other things as well. So, lets work on this one please. I will be back to clean shortly.

Thank you and have a wonderful day!




Musicmystery -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/21/2015 12:45:05 PM)

If this case, the lefty is JFK and the friend is Roone Arlidge, it that's what you mean.




bounty44 -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/21/2015 3:41:25 PM)

This is long, but hopefully worthwhile. Some more myths and falsehoods from totally non-credible sources:

http://townhall.com/columnists/danielpipes/2015/01/21/draft-n1945776/page/full

This one is particularly interesting because the author regrets his prior use of the phrase “no go zones” and would rather call them “semi-autonomous sectors.” However, he nevertheless acknowledges “police enter only warily and in force, and Muslims get away with offences illegal for the rest of population.

“The Rotherham, England, child sex scandal offers a powerful example. An official inquiry found that for sixteen years, 1997-2013, a ring of Muslim men sexually exploited – through abduction, rape, gang rape, trafficking, prostitution, torture – at least 1,400 non-Muslim girls as young as 11. The police received voluminous complaints from the girls' parents but did nothing; they could have acted, but chose not to.”

In the article, the author, who is a prize winning columnist and runs the Middle East Forum (a think tank that is not credible) mentions he has traveled to these places in Athens, Berlin, Brussels, Copenhagen, Malmö, and Stockholm---first hand eye witness testimony bah!


http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3816/losing-malmo

“Fire and emergency workers refuse to enter Malmo's mostly Muslim Rosengaard district without police escort...

“The police and other emergency personnel are viewed as agents of the non-Muslim state. Their presumptuousness in entering the Islamic enclave and acting under the color of Swedish law is taken as an affront to Islamic sovereignty.”

The gatestone institute is an international policy think tank, chaired by John Bolton, former US ambassador to the UN. Also among their members is Alan Dershowitz, a constitutional law expert who “published more than 1000 articles in magazines, newspapers, journals and blogs such as The New York Times Magazine, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, The Harvard Law Review, the Yale Law Journal, Huffington Post, Newsmax, Jerusalem Post and Ha’aretz. Others in the institute are of the same caliber.

But they don’t know anything about the state of the world, or Islam.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslims_Against_Crusades

“Muslims Against Crusades maintain that Muslims are not "obliged to obey the law of the land in whatever country they reside".[5] In 2011 the group proposed that Muslims should set up independent emirates in select cities in the UK, operating under sharia (Islamic law) entirely outside British law. The group suggested the towns of Bradford, Dewsbury, and Tower Hamlets in the East End of London as the possible first test beds for these entities.[6] The group has often clashed with the English Defence League.[7][8] Home Secretary Theresa May banned the group from midnight on 11 November 2011, making membership or support of the group a criminal offence.”

The article was written with research from 25 sources, almost all of them local newspapers and news sites. So they, or the author, don’t know anything they are talking about.


https://actforamericahouston.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/britains-islamic-emirates-project/

“One of the group’s strategy documents, “Islamic Prevent 2011: Preventing Secular Fundamentalism and the Occupation of Muslim Land,” provides insights into the religious and/or philosophical mindset behind the Islamic Emirates Project. For example, Chapter 1 states: “The Only Identity for Muslims is Islam … In no shape or form can a Muslim support any form of nationalism such as promoting Britishness.”
Chapter 4 states: “A Muslim can only abide by Sharia and is not allowed to obey any man-made law.” Chapter 5 states: “Muslims must reject secularism and democracy,” terms which are “completely alien to Islam and against the basic tenets of Islam.” Chapter 10 states: “Every Muslim must call for Sharia to be implemented wherever they are.” Chapter 12 states: “It is not allowed for Muslims to integrate with a non-Islamic society.” Chapter 13 states: “Muslims should set up Islamic Emirates in the United Kingdom.” Chapter 14 states: “Any Muslim who opposed the policies in this pamphlet should be confronted.” Chapter 16 states: “Any Muslim who has been affected by the Western way of life need to be rehabilitated.”
The author is Soeren Kern, who is a university professor in spain, teaching international relations and who is an analyst, essayist and commentator for a large variety of organizations, publications and news agencies.
He doesn’t know anything about how Islam is playing out around the world however and he must be making up those quotes.


http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2014/April/Native-French-under-Attack-in-Muslim-Areas/

“Violent crime can happen anywhere and to anyone and for many reasons, but in Muslim-controlled parts of France, it has become especially dangerous to be white.

“Surveillance camera video shows white French being beaten up by predominantly Muslim immigrant gangs in the Metro and on the street.

“Islamic immigrants consider it their territory and whites enter at their own risk. The French call them "sensitive urban zones" -- no-go zones where the police don't enter or don't enforce the law.

“Some call them little Muslim caliphates inside the borders of France.

"The French people are increasingly living in fear. They fear the imposition of Islamic law and the organized violence against any French person, including the police," Cassen said.

"More and more Islamists threaten riots, assault, and try to impose Sharia (Islamic law). They attack the police," Tasin added.

"The republic is in danger," Tasin warned.”

Well, that was from CBN, and we certainly cannot trust Christians to tell the truth and I suspect the French citizens really never said those things.


http://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2015/01/21/will-the-west-defend-itself-n1945100/page/full

“Several European countries have what are called "no-go zones." No-go zones function as microstates governed by Shariah. The host countries' authorities have lost control over these areas. In some cases, they are unable to provide even police, firefighting and ambulance services.

“In France, no-go zones are officially called Zones Urbaines Sensibles, or Sensitive Urban Zones. According to some reports, there is hardly a city in France that does not have at least one ZUS. There are estimated to be more than 750 such zones in France. According to The Washington Times, "France has Europe's largest population of Muslims, some of whom talk openly of ruling the country one day and casting aside Western legal systems for harsh, Islam-based Shariah law.

“No-go zones have also emerged in Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands and Italy.”

Walter Williams has a PhD in economics and is a Distinguished Professor of Economics at George Mason University. He must be making things up too. And TownHall will just let any old thing appear in print so they cannot be trusted.


So---i’ll just go on believing no such places exist and that everything is hunky dory in the western world.








bounty44 -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/21/2015 3:42:57 PM)

This is long, but hopefully worthwhile. Some more myths and falsehoods from totally non-credible sources:

http://townhall.com/columnists/danielpipes/2015/01/21/draft-n1945776/page/full

This one is particularly interesting because the author regrets his prior use of the phrase “no go zones” and would rather call them “semi-autonomous sectors.” However, he nevertheless acknowledges “police enter only warily and in force, and Muslims get away with offences illegal for the rest of population.

“The Rotherham, England, child sex scandal offers a powerful example. An official inquiry found that for sixteen years, 1997-2013, a ring of Muslim men sexually exploited – through abduction, rape, gang rape, trafficking, prostitution, torture – at least 1,400 non-Muslim girls as young as 11. The police received voluminous complaints from the girls' parents but did nothing; they could have acted, but chose not to.”

In the article, the author, who is a prize winning columnist and runs the Middle East Forum (a think tank that is not credible) mentions he has traveled to these places in Athens, Berlin, Brussels, Copenhagen, Malmö, and Stockholm---first hand eye witness testimony bah!


http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3816/losing-malmo

“Fire and emergency workers refuse to enter Malmo's mostly Muslim Rosengaard district without police escort...

“The police and other emergency personnel are viewed as agents of the non-Muslim state. Their presumptuousness in entering the Islamic enclave and acting under the color of Swedish law is taken as an affront to Islamic sovereignty.”

The gatestone institute is an international policy think tank, chaired by John Bolton, former US ambassador to the UN. Also among their members is Alan Dershowitz, a constitutional law expert who “published more than 1000 articles in magazines, newspapers, journals and blogs such as The New York Times Magazine, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, The Harvard Law Review, the Yale Law Journal, Huffington Post, Newsmax, Jerusalem Post and Ha’aretz. Others in the institute are of the same caliber.

But they don’t know anything about the state of the world, or Islam.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslims_Against_Crusades

“Muslims Against Crusades maintain that Muslims are not "obliged to obey the law of the land in whatever country they reside".[5] In 2011 the group proposed that Muslims should set up independent emirates in select cities in the UK, operating under sharia (Islamic law) entirely outside British law. The group suggested the towns of Bradford, Dewsbury, and Tower Hamlets in the East End of London as the possible first test beds for these entities.[6] The group has often clashed with the English Defence League.[7][8] Home Secretary Theresa May banned the group from midnight on 11 November 2011, making membership or support of the group a criminal offence.”

The article was written with research from 25 sources, almost all of them local newspapers and news sites. So they, or the author, don’t know anything they are talking about.


https://actforamericahouston.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/britains-islamic-emirates-project/

“One of the group’s strategy documents, “Islamic Prevent 2011: Preventing Secular Fundamentalism and the Occupation of Muslim Land,” provides insights into the religious and/or philosophical mindset behind the Islamic Emirates Project. For example, Chapter 1 states: “The Only Identity for Muslims is Islam … In no shape or form can a Muslim support any form of nationalism such as promoting Britishness.”
Chapter 4 states: “A Muslim can only abide by Sharia and is not allowed to obey any man-made law.” Chapter 5 states: “Muslims must reject secularism and democracy,” terms which are “completely alien to Islam and against the basic tenets of Islam.” Chapter 10 states: “Every Muslim must call for Sharia to be implemented wherever they are.” Chapter 12 states: “It is not allowed for Muslims to integrate with a non-Islamic society.” Chapter 13 states: “Muslims should set up Islamic Emirates in the United Kingdom.” Chapter 14 states: “Any Muslim who opposed the policies in this pamphlet should be confronted.” Chapter 16 states: “Any Muslim who has been affected by the Western way of life need to be rehabilitated.”
The author is Soeren Kern, who is a university professor in spain, teaching international relations and who is an analyst, essayist and commentator for a large variety of organizations, publications and news agencies.
He doesn’t know anything about how Islam is playing out around the world however and he must be making up those quotes.


http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2014/April/Native-French-under-Attack-in-Muslim-Areas/

“Violent crime can happen anywhere and to anyone and for many reasons, but in Muslim-controlled parts of France, it has become especially dangerous to be white.

“Surveillance camera video shows white French being beaten up by predominantly Muslim immigrant gangs in the Metro and on the street.

“Islamic immigrants consider it their territory and whites enter at their own risk. The French call them "sensitive urban zones" -- no-go zones where the police don't enter or don't enforce the law.

“Some call them little Muslim caliphates inside the borders of France.

"The French people are increasingly living in fear. They fear the imposition of Islamic law and the organized violence against any French person, including the police," Cassen said.

"More and more Islamists threaten riots, assault, and try to impose Sharia (Islamic law). They attack the police," Tasin added.

"The republic is in danger," Tasin warned.”

Well, that was from CBN, and we certainly cannot trust Christians to tell the truth and I suspect the French citizens really never said those things.


http://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2015/01/21/will-the-west-defend-itself-n1945100/page/full

“Several European countries have what are called "no-go zones." No-go zones function as microstates governed by Shariah. The host countries' authorities have lost control over these areas. In some cases, they are unable to provide even police, firefighting and ambulance services.

“In France, no-go zones are officially called Zones Urbaines Sensibles, or Sensitive Urban Zones. According to some reports, there is hardly a city in France that does not have at least one ZUS. There are estimated to be more than 750 such zones in France. According to The Washington Times, "France has Europe's largest population of Muslims, some of whom talk openly of ruling the country one day and casting aside Western legal systems for harsh, Islam-based Shariah law.

“No-go zones have also emerged in Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands and Italy.”

Walter Williams has a PhD in economics and is a Distinguished Professor of Economics at George Mason University. He must be making things up too. And TownHall will just let any old thing appear in print so they cannot be trusted.


So---i’ll just go on believing no such places exist and that everything is hunky dory in the western world.








bounty44 -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/21/2015 3:48:41 PM)

my apologies, I didn't mean to post that twice. I had just wanted to add this:

its totally fictitious though.

[image]local://upfiles/1936645/F1BE821D476F4F5AA1FA6C2F3E056B2E.jpg[/image]




Hillwilliam -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/21/2015 4:32:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

my apologies, I didn't mean to post that twice. I had just wanted to add this:

its totally fictitious though.

[image]local://upfiles/1936645/F1BE821D476F4F5AA1FA6C2F3E056B2E.jpg[/image]

Especially since whoever made it up was so fucking stupid they misspelled "Sharia".

Seriously, the fucking sign is in English and the places we are talking about are in places where the primary language is not ENGLISH.

Only a dedicated FOX viewer would be fucking stupid enough to believe it was real.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/21/2015 4:38:26 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

Walter Williams has a PhD in economics and is a Distinguished Professor of Economics at George Mason University. He must be making things up too.





How many people who have PhD's in meteorology and physical oceanography do you claim are making shit up when they talk about climate change?[8|]




Politesub53 -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/21/2015 4:45:03 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

my apologies, I didn't mean to post that twice. I had just wanted to add this:

its totally fictitious though.

[image]local://upfiles/1936645/F1BE821D476F4F5AA1FA6C2F3E056B2E.jpg[/image]


Quoting an Islamophobe like Pipes regards Rotherham is hardly credible, but please continue with your ignorance.

Got to laugh at you keyboard hacks who read this shit and then take it in so far it comes spouting out of your arse, like some geyser of truth.




Politesub53 -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/21/2015 5:06:30 PM)

With regards to the so called Islamic patrols in London, most of those involed have been dealt with by the courts with ASBO,s. It is also worth noting most of them dont even come from a muslim background but are recent converts. Either way, the link below shows that said patrols are neither tolerated or ignored by the Met Police.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/feb/15/sharia-law-campaign-muslim-groundbreaking-asbo




Kirata -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/21/2015 8:21:15 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Especially since whoever made it up was so fucking stupid they misspelled "Sharia".

There are several acceptable spellings, and "shariah" is one of them.

http://www.whyislam.org/faqs/understanding-shariah/

K.




CoSubGirl -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/21/2015 8:32:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

This is long, but hopefully worthwhile. Some more myths and falsehoods from totally non-credible sources:

http://townhall.com/columnists/danielpipes/2015/01/21/draft-n1945776/page/full

This one is particularly interesting because the author regrets his prior use of the phrase “no go zones” and would rather call them “semi-autonomous sectors.” However, he nevertheless acknowledges “police enter only warily and in force, and Muslims get away with offences illegal for the rest of population.

“The Rotherham, England, child sex scandal offers a powerful example. An official inquiry found that for sixteen years, 1997-2013, a ring of Muslim men sexually exploited – through abduction, rape, gang rape, trafficking, prostitution, torture – at least 1,400 non-Muslim girls as young as 11. The police received voluminous complaints from the girls' parents but did nothing; they could have acted, but chose not to.”

In the article, the author, who is a prize winning columnist and runs the Middle East Forum (a think tank that is not credible) mentions he has traveled to these places in Athens, Berlin, Brussels, Copenhagen, Malmö, and Stockholm---first hand eye witness testimony bah!


http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3816/losing-malmo

“Fire and emergency workers refuse to enter Malmo's mostly Muslim Rosengaard district without police escort...

“The police and other emergency personnel are viewed as agents of the non-Muslim state. Their presumptuousness in entering the Islamic enclave and acting under the color of Swedish law is taken as an affront to Islamic sovereignty.”

The gatestone institute is an international policy think tank, chaired by John Bolton, former US ambassador to the UN. Also among their members is Alan Dershowitz, a constitutional law expert who “published more than 1000 articles in magazines, newspapers, journals and blogs such as The New York Times Magazine, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, The Harvard Law Review, the Yale Law Journal, Huffington Post, Newsmax, Jerusalem Post and Ha’aretz. Others in the institute are of the same caliber.

But they don’t know anything about the state of the world, or Islam.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslims_Against_Crusades

“Muslims Against Crusades maintain that Muslims are not "obliged to obey the law of the land in whatever country they reside".[5] In 2011 the group proposed that Muslims should set up independent emirates in select cities in the UK, operating under sharia (Islamic law) entirely outside British law. The group suggested the towns of Bradford, Dewsbury, and Tower Hamlets in the East End of London as the possible first test beds for these entities.[6] The group has often clashed with the English Defence League.[7][8] Home Secretary Theresa May banned the group from midnight on 11 November 2011, making membership or support of the group a criminal offence.”

The article was written with research from 25 sources, almost all of them local newspapers and news sites. So they, or the author, don’t know anything they are talking about.


https://actforamericahouston.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/britains-islamic-emirates-project/

“One of the group’s strategy documents, “Islamic Prevent 2011: Preventing Secular Fundamentalism and the Occupation of Muslim Land,” provides insights into the religious and/or philosophical mindset behind the Islamic Emirates Project. For example, Chapter 1 states: “The Only Identity for Muslims is Islam … In no shape or form can a Muslim support any form of nationalism such as promoting Britishness.”
Chapter 4 states: “A Muslim can only abide by Sharia and is not allowed to obey any man-made law.” Chapter 5 states: “Muslims must reject secularism and democracy,” terms which are “completely alien to Islam and against the basic tenets of Islam.” Chapter 10 states: “Every Muslim must call for Sharia to be implemented wherever they are.” Chapter 12 states: “It is not allowed for Muslims to integrate with a non-Islamic society.” Chapter 13 states: “Muslims should set up Islamic Emirates in the United Kingdom.” Chapter 14 states: “Any Muslim who opposed the policies in this pamphlet should be confronted.” Chapter 16 states: “Any Muslim who has been affected by the Western way of life need to be rehabilitated.”
The author is Soeren Kern, who is a university professor in spain, teaching international relations and who is an analyst, essayist and commentator for a large variety of organizations, publications and news agencies.
He doesn’t know anything about how Islam is playing out around the world however and he must be making up those quotes.


http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2014/April/Native-French-under-Attack-in-Muslim-Areas/

“Violent crime can happen anywhere and to anyone and for many reasons, but in Muslim-controlled parts of France, it has become especially dangerous to be white.

“Surveillance camera video shows white French being beaten up by predominantly Muslim immigrant gangs in the Metro and on the street.

“Islamic immigrants consider it their territory and whites enter at their own risk. The French call them "sensitive urban zones" -- no-go zones where the police don't enter or don't enforce the law.

“Some call them little Muslim caliphates inside the borders of France.

"The French people are increasingly living in fear. They fear the imposition of Islamic law and the organized violence against any French person, including the police," Cassen said.

"More and more Islamists threaten riots, assault, and try to impose Sharia (Islamic law). They attack the police," Tasin added.

"The republic is in danger," Tasin warned.”

Well, that was from CBN, and we certainly cannot trust Christians to tell the truth and I suspect the French citizens really never said those things.


http://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2015/01/21/will-the-west-defend-itself-n1945100/page/full

“Several European countries have what are called "no-go zones." No-go zones function as microstates governed by Shariah. The host countries' authorities have lost control over these areas. In some cases, they are unable to provide even police, firefighting and ambulance services.

“In France, no-go zones are officially called Zones Urbaines Sensibles, or Sensitive Urban Zones. According to some reports, there is hardly a city in France that does not have at least one ZUS. There are estimated to be more than 750 such zones in France. According to The Washington Times, "France has Europe's largest population of Muslims, some of whom talk openly of ruling the country one day and casting aside Western legal systems for harsh, Islam-based Shariah law.

“No-go zones have also emerged in Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands and Italy.”

Walter Williams has a PhD in economics and is a Distinguished Professor of Economics at George Mason University. He must be making things up too. And TownHall will just let any old thing appear in print so they cannot be trusted.


So---i’ll just go on believing no such places exist and that everything is hunky dory in the western world.




I addressed the ZUS issue in my post and even gave a link explaining what the ZUS actually are. Apparently whoever wrote what you cited didn't bother to find out what they actually are but instead chose to make up their own definition.

And I've been to a number of these ZUS and have friends who live in them. Of course, silly us. We didn't realize that we weren't supposed to be there according to these "experts". We also missed seeing the tons of Muslims who are supposedly controlling these areas.

Reality is they are areas that the government is targeting for economic stimulus.

Do you own research. Go directly to the sources. It does help to be able to read French, but the actual information isn't hard to find from actual objective French sources.

Wonder if the PhD guy actually reads French or has even been to France......




cloudboy -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/22/2015 9:17:16 AM)

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and I could go on and on and on.


That's the wonder of internet, you can find "anything" you want to support any kind of crack-pot point imaginable. The internet is an incredible tool for motivated reasoning and confirmation bias.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/22/2015 4:05:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Especially since whoever made it up was so fucking stupid they misspelled "Sharia".

There are several acceptable spellings, and "shariah" is one of them.

http://www.whyislam.org/faqs/understanding-shariah/

K.


Left out the rest of the post didn't you?

It was in Europe and written in ENGLISH?




Kirata -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/22/2015 5:03:07 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata
quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Especially since whoever made it up was so fucking stupid they misspelled "Sharia".

There are several acceptable spellings, and "shariah" is one of them.

It was in Europe and written in ENGLISH?

I was responding to your objection about the spelling. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Maybe I should have used smaller words. I don't know in what country the sign allegedly appeared, but I do know that Rotherham, Bradford, Dewsbury, and the East End of London were mentioned, and I'm pretty sure they still speak English there.

K.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/23/2015 1:21:07 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata
quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Especially since whoever made it up was so fucking stupid they misspelled "Sharia".

There are several acceptable spellings, and "shariah" is one of them.

It was in Europe and written in ENGLISH?

I was responding to your objection about the spelling. Sorry if that wasn't clear. Maybe I should have used smaller words. I don't know in what country the sign allegedly appeared, but I do know that Rotherham, Bradford, Dewsbury, and the East End of London were mentioned, and I'm pretty sure they still speak English there.

K.


Maybe you shouldn't cherry pick, leave out things and try for the 0.005% possibility that it was legit.




Tkman117 -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/23/2015 2:09:56 PM)

FR

Just found this video which is a bunch of highschoolers doing their own ethics audit of a fox news segment. They might be kids, but they're completely right when they take apart this news segment point by point. Not to mention, if you watch any other segment of fox news, they're likely breaking those exact same ethical guidelines as they are in this segment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&x-yt-cl=84503534&v=VzYymuslGDw

In conclusion: Fox news is a propaganda network, not a news network.




CreativeDominant -> RE: Fox News -- Textbook Case of Baseless Right Wing Hysteria (1/23/2015 4:10:07 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Tkman117

FR

Just found this video which is a bunch of highschoolers doing their own ethics audit of a fox news segment. They might be kids, but they're completely right when they take apart this news segment point by point. Not to mention, if you watch any other segment of fox news, they're likely breaking those exact same ethical guidelines as they are in this segment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&x-yt-cl=84503534&v=VzYymuslGDw

In conclusion: Fox news is a propaganda network, not a news network.


Actually...and I know it may make little difference to you, the college student at...I'd be willing to bet...a liberal college, but the piece they took apart is a part of The O'Reilly Factor. A COMMENTARY program...you know, much like the Rachel Maddow Show or Anderson Cooper 360. Those two aren't exactly known for adherence to "journalistic ethics".

As to O'Reillycs claim that Vermont is liberal, see if you can find anything in here that, at a national level politically, disputes that.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/fivethirtyeight/2012/10/01/new-vermont-is-liberal-but-old-vermont-is-still-there/




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