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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 9:30:23 AM

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And here's Mother Jones getting caught lying yet again.

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You make some good points but I think Palin has proven that there are some on the left who are not all that fussed about lying. Well until someone on the right lies, then they think it's terrible. But as long as the lie backs up their agenda, it's all good.

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 1:44:46 PM

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Why is it si hard for the assholes to understand that every gun in America started out legal( we are,after all the land of milk ,honey and guns)but soon,with relative ease,find themselves in the hands of idiots.

Yup. In the same way as 'guns don't kill, people kill', no gun is ever illegal - though its user might be.

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 4:09:27 PM

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Why is it si hard for the assholes to understand that every gun in America started out legal( we are,after all the land of milk ,honey and guns)but soon,with relative ease,find themselves in the hands of idiots.

Yup. In the same way as 'guns don't kill, people kill', no gun is ever illegal - though its user might be.

Then no gun is legal, though it's owner may be.
But back to reality. As both of you know, a firearm is legal if it is legally owned. Thus stating that the firearm is legal even though the person using it has it illegally is an oxymoron. There are other things that make it illegal.
A 10 inch barrel on a shotgun not properly registered with the Federal Government is illegal. A full auto weapon not properly registered in illegal.
One with the serial number removed is illegal. One in the possession of someone not legally allowed to own one is illegal. This is just one more lame attempt to cloud the issue, and one more reason not to take either one of you seriously.

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 4:47:21 PM

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This is just one more lame attempt to cloud the issue, and one more reason not to take either one of you seriously.

*Sob*. You absolute beast. :-(

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 4:53:14 PM

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Why is it si hard for the assholes to understand that every gun in America started out legal( we are,after all the land of milk ,honey and guns)but soon,with relative ease,find themselves in the hands of idiots.

Yup. In the same way as 'guns don't kill, people kill', no gun is ever illegal - though its user might be.

Yes because your country banned guns and now have a knife crime problem...

I mean seriously you cant buy fucking steak knifes with out it being a problem in the great old United kingdom... How sad for you...

Its illegal for me to stab Peon, It wont stop people who have the intent and inclination to stab Peon because well Peons the kinda bloke that inspires the urges to stab him...The law will stop me, because I look dreadful in orange, but it wont stop the other people who have the sharp intent of stabbing him because hes inspires that kind of emotion by speaking about things he doesnt understand.

The point is if its not a legal gun in the hand of the wielder, laws for the people who own guns arent going to fix the problem

CRIMINALS... DONT Follow the law... its why they are criminals...

Regardless of the laws you place on me, and any any other legal gun owner those laws wont change the fact that people who prove they dont follow the law wont.

How about you dont try to take my guns, and we work on the whole problem... which is CRIMINALS USING GUNS...

IF you have the cure to making criminals not criminals please do share, otherwise your points are about as useful as a monkey throwing its own shit. I personally vote for the monkey over you because its more entertaining.

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 4:57:12 PM

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Why is it si hard for the assholes to understand that every gun in America started out legal( we are,after all the land of milk ,honey and guns)but soon,with relative ease,find themselves in the hands of idiots.

Yup. In the same way as 'guns don't kill, people kill', no gun is ever illegal - though its user might be.

While you didn't intend to do so, you hit the point. Guns themselves are neither legal nor illegal, good or evil, it is the people who use them who are.
Gun control punishes the good for the deeds of the evil.

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 5:02:45 PM

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How about you dont try to take my guns, and we work on the whole problem... which is CRIMINALS USING GUNS...

Was the three year old in the OP a criminal, then? I hadn't realised that.

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 5:24:24 PM

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How about you dont try to take my guns, and we work on the whole problem... which is CRIMINALS USING GUNS...

Was the three year old in the OP a criminal, then? I hadn't realised that.

No more than the 9 year old who killed 17 people with a lighter in China, and if there is one problem they don't have it is a shortage of laws controlling people's actions. In case you hadn't noticed the parents are most likely going to be charged with endangerment, so this is already covered by the law.

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 5:35:29 PM

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How about you dont try to take my guns, and we work on the whole problem... which is CRIMINALS USING GUNS...

Was the three year old in the OP a criminal, then? I hadn't realised that.

Yes the Three year old was, because Its illegal to shoot someone elses gun without their consent. The Parents of the three year old are also criminals for not keeping their gun safe.

All of this can be prevented if we work on that whole NOT LEGAL thing....

But ya know You dont care about that part, you care about the guns are bad part instead of the fixable part... because you dont want to fix it, you like being a condescending jerk in your high and mighty your country doesnt have problems because look at those barbaric americans.

I go back to my original, YOU have a penis, and because penis's are usually the cause of rape, you must be a rapist there for you must go to jail because of the fact you have a penis and the number one perp in rape has a penis.

I have a gun you want to take my gun and or regulate my having a gun because some idiot whos too stupid to understand a condom (which is the real crime here), let their gun get into the hands of a three year old.

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 5:43:31 PM

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How about you dont try to take my guns, and we work on the whole problem... which is CRIMINALS USING GUNS...

Was the three year old in the OP a criminal, then? I hadn't realised that.

Yes the Three year old was, because Its illegal to shoot someone elses gun without their consent. The Parents of the three year old are also criminals for not keeping their gun safe.

All of this can be prevented if we work on that whole NOT LEGAL thing....

But ya know You dont care about that part, you care about the guns are bad part instead of the fixable part... because you dont want to fix it, you like being a condescending jerk in your high and mighty your country doesnt have problems because look at those barbaric americans.

I go back to my original, YOU have a penis, and because penis's are usually the cause of rape, you must be a rapist there for you must go to jail because of the fact you have a penis and the number one perp in rape has a penis.

I have a gun you want to take my gun and or regulate my having a gun because some idiot whos too stupid to understand a condom (which is the real crime here), let their gun get into the hands of a three year old.

If they had proper control of their kids then
A They would have noticed the 3 year old getting into the purse particularly knowing there was a gun there
B The kids would have known better than to get into mamas purse
C The kids would have known better than to touch a gun

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 5:57:45 PM

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Why is it si hard for the assholes to understand that every gun in America started out legal( we are,after all the land of milk ,honey and guns)but soon,with relative ease,find themselves in the hands of idiots.

Yup. In the same way as 'guns don't kill, people kill', no gun is ever illegal - though its user might be.

While you didn't intend to do so, you hit the point. Guns themselves are neither legal nor illegal, good or evil, it is the people who use them who are.
Gun control punishes the good for the deeds of the evil.

Substitute that for gun control that makes it more difficult for the guns to flow to criminals and you got a deal.
National legislation that restricts any one buyer to one handgun per month and you would slow the influx of handguns to urban centers.
Surely no one has the need to purchase thirty handguns a month as can be done in the great State of Virginia

That is the beauty of a right, you don't have to justify exercising it.

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 6:01:44 PM

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But ya know You dont care about that part, you care about the guns are bad part instead of the fixable part... because you dont want to fix it, you like being a condescending jerk in your high and mighty your country doesnt have problems because look at those barbaric americans.

Wow. I hadn't realised you felt either so sensitive about this subject, or so sensitive towards me in particular. You are, of course, projecting onto me with your comments about my being 'condescending' and seeing Americans as 'barbaric': those feelings are for you to sort out, not me.

The truth is I find the situation of the OP utterly alien. It's next to impossible for me to imagine and, yes, the chances of something like it happening in the UK are next to nil. Yet of course it was a tragedy. I don't like to hear of people being killed - Brits, Arabs or Americans. There it is: believe it, or not, it's up to you.

You show up in Every gun thread talking about how guns are bad

How about instead you dont comment on threads you cant offer anything to other then... guns are bad... You know nothing about guns, nothing about their safety, nothing about them other then to you guns are bad.

Its simple you want to say guns are bad they need to be banned...

I get to say you have a penis there for your likely to be a rapist and need to go to jail, IF people with penis's werent allowed to be free to roam the streets rape wouldnt happen... Think of all the crime wed solve if people with penisis were locked up.

Anyone under 18 should not have access to a gun unless its with the gun owners consent. That was the problem, it will continue to be a problem as we dont kill stupid people at the first showing of their stupid.

Just like we dont put moms in jail when they leave little johnny alone in the tub and johnny drowns. Or when johnny injests poison.

IF we dont care about little johnny when it comes to a few million things like posion, drowning, choking, and all the other top reasons why kids die, why do we care when little johnny has a gun..

OH thats right.. guns are bad and must be banned.

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 6:10:13 PM

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Where the fuck do you get off telling another poster what he does or does not have the right to post on ?
Who the fuck put you in charge ?

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 6:14:02 PM

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Where the fuck do you get off telling another poster what he does or does not have the right to post on ?
Who the fuck put you in charge ?

Of course she does not have any right to tell me what to post on. I'll comment on the problems in the Middle East, or the European mainland, as do a lot of us (without any complaint from anyone), and I'll certainly comment on matters in the USA if I feel like it. I can't see why the USA should be 'off limits'.

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 6:14:07 PM

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Where the fuck do you get off telling another poster what he does or does not have the right to post on ?
Who the fuck put you in charge ?

The as you do trying to put laws on me for owning a gun.

I get it you think guns are bad, all you contribute is guns are bad, I get it, its old and boring and useless because guns arent bad.

Just because you can post where ever you want regardless, doesnt mean you should.. Its called... Using common sense, If i dont know about a topic, I dont post on it, because most post value is useless.

If more people did this, the internet would be a better place.

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 6:17:35 PM

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Where the fuck do you get off telling another poster what he does or does not have the right to post on ?
Who the fuck put you in charge ?

Of course she does not have any right to tell me what to post on. I'll comment on the problems in the Middle East, or the European mainland, as do a lot of us (without any complaint from anyone), and I'll certainly comment on matters in the USA if I feel like it. I can't see why the USA should be 'off limits'.

Short answer...it isn't
and only the truly stupid march out here and suggest it should be so.

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 6:22:22 PM

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I am so going to have to beat someone up. Kdsub or me. I have created a monster!

and

Remember what I have forgotten twice now.

Check the area you are in, because this isn't a feisty section. A more awake and with it person did point this out to me. (Again!) I need sleep and to be less busy. I may need to hunt for a new slave. The other one got fired, we won't talk about the run away. See, I really am mean. Tired and overworked and you have something I may need someone else to discribe because I may not be honest with myself.

And

Be careful. Because even if I am in brain cell flight, sooner or later I will wake up and smell the coffee, then you all are in for it!

Be nice.

Edit: I forgot the FR. Really, I'm even scaring myself.

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 6:31:23 PM

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The problem is that your points always come back to the same thing, QK: that guns just must be good, no matter what terrible thing has happened with them.

Guns don't have a mind. Therefore they are neither good nor bad.
Bad people use guns, but so do good people. Deal with the bad people and leave the good ones alone.

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 6:49:00 PM

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Time out or its to the feisty section for this thread.

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RE: Hands UP!!! Mom and Dad - 2/8/2015 7:51:30 PM

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Now that this has been hacked up to the point of who the heck knows if it makes any sense at all, you can play again. However, gun threads will never be allowed in OT again. If you are waiting for an email from me or want an explanation; forget about it. That was one heck of a mess and I could have just pulled it.

To those that wanted to know how a thread goes poof, this is a few of the reasons. Too much crazy in one thread, too much work for busy staff and many members contributing to it, complaints about the thread that has one or both of the things I mentioned or you just ticked off a busy mod with other guidelines issues in the same thread. In any circumstance, it is too many things wrong in the thread, not by way of opinion of the mod, but by guidelines.

It starts again on this one and the gold mail you get from me won't be one of the happy ones. Just sayin.

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