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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 7/21/2006 3:48:40 PM   
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I have begun to think that at times I am too caring and need to be more of the stern ilk---


I'm going to echo this as well. Sadly I've come across so many male sub/slaves that for some reason see that as not be dominant enough... unless I turn into a royal bitch they don't take me seriously... I don't get it.
 
Jewel



I have felt the same way...And run into the same problem of not being 'bitchy' enough....But the I also think of the mean things I have done and it seems to equal out somehow.

I am however more warm after a session than during 90% of the time.
After a session some submissives need to feel that tender touch and be told how proud you are of them.Some need it during when they have been spanked til red bottomed.

I have always thought of it this way...if your submissive is unhappy they are not going to give 100%.

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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 7/22/2006 2:44:11 AM   
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I have begun to think that at times I am too caring and need to be more of the stern ilk---


I'm going to echo this as well. Sadly I've come across so many male sub/slaves that for some reason see that as not be dominant enough... unless I turn into a royal bitch they don't take me seriously... I don't get it.
 
Jewel


yep..weird as it is.....some seem to think that u have to act like a royal bitch to show off as dominant...never gona get that...

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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 7/22/2006 2:46:30 AM   
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define love and caring?
i dont take anyone under my wing if i dont care for them, perfect is when im in love, but a strong feeling is required in my opinion.
but i still like to inflict pain n have them whimmper...does that make me a non caring domme?

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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 7/25/2006 4:16:43 AM   
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The more cruel you are (within reason), the sweeter the loving is after the torture:)

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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 7/25/2006 10:02:24 AM   
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I know what you mean ShiftedJewel,
 
I tend to treat my slaves with respect. But until they piss me straight off they dont wanna listen well.
If they tell me Im too nice to be a Domme, I tell them, look your job is to make MY life easier not turn me into some screaming bitch for your satisfaction.
Besides Im not sweating over them everyday to fullfill thier needs. Then whos the slave? ya know...
 
(Im a Lifestyle Domme, Im 24/7.)
Heres my take on it:
I think some guys beleive that 24/7 means 24/7 scenes and thats just not possible.  They might even see us as something but humane.
We got to eat, and shop and everything eles much to thier surprise.
<Boo how vanilla> Im sorry but its called life. lol I find this misguided idea in new subs/slaves most often. They think I should start "Domming" them from word go -dream on.
 
Some subs might confuse what they read about sessioning and beleive its the way the entire life would be with a Mistress. Scares half of them from being called a slave.
The others who thinks they want 24/7 abuse, Id like to take them and make thier entire life hell and just see how long they really wanna be tied to a pipe in my basement on thier knees, or how long theyd really live in a box..etc with no loving words or touch. *evil grin*
 
So in reality, most everyone needs love to some degree and some welcome my loving ways. It doesnt mean I cant play ruff. Just means I have balance in life. It tends to dissappoint some.. and make others very releived.
 
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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 7/25/2006 10:43:21 AM   
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I know what you mean ShiftedJewel,
 
I tend to treat my slaves with respect. But until they piss me straight off they dont wanna listen well.
If they tell me Im too nice to be a Domme, I tell them, look your job is to make MY life easier not turn me into some screaming bitch for your satisfaction.
Besides Im not sweating over them everyday to fullfill thier needs. Then whos the slave? ya know...
 
(Im a Lifestyle Domme, Im 24/7.)
Heres my take on it:
I think some guys beleive that 24/7 means 24/7 scenes and thats just not possible.  They might even see us as something but humane.
We got to eat, and shop and everything eles much to thier surprise.
<Boo how vanilla> Im sorry but its called life. lol I find this misguided idea in new subs/slaves most often. They think I should start "Domming" them from word go -dream on.
 
Some subs might confuse what they read about sessioning and beleive its the way the entire life would be with a Mistress. Scares half of them from being called a slave.
The others who thinks they want 24/7 abuse, Id like to take them and make thier entire life hell and just see how long they really wanna be tied to a pipe in my basement on thier knees, or how long theyd really live in a box..etc with no loving words or touch. *evil grin*
 
So in reality, most everyone needs love to some degree and some welcome my loving ways. It doesnt mean I cant play ruff. Just means I have balance in life. It tends to dissappoint some.. and make others very releived.
 
Mistress DeAnnya



Wonderfully stated...As I also have that balance.
Cant please all the people all the time...But you can please some of the people some of the time.

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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 7/25/2006 10:43:43 AM   
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Dear MistressDeAnnya, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
I do agree with your post, that some of these lads/lassies have no real appreciation how 24/7 life in 'their' fantasy image of what "love and caring" domination may be.  I think the wishful thinking, the romantic side of things are added on, as to be later a huge disappointment as real life proves otherwise, to be rather mundane in most cases.
 
Sadly, many dominants who are gentle, kind and loving are assumed to be weak and unable to exact any administrations, such as physical scenes and the enforcement of discipline.
 
Perhaps, men need to feel the 'force' as to become a 'victim' in their own logic and or mind, as to not feel as a total whimp for submitting from the heart, mind and or spirit.  Perhaps men have been so programed by society and or civilization that, unless forced into something, they are considered cowards, sissy, weak and or any other label used to lower a man's self esteem.  Of course, those who do know, it takes much courage to submit freely, without force and to serve from the pure joy of it--
 
I also feel that dominants who identify as loving and caring, as I do-- should not become something they are not, e.g. cruel, pain in the neck, etc.  That wouldn't be authentic and that is what both dominants and submissives strive to be--authentic to one another, as to foster a relationship and successfully carry that relationship forward to hopefully, a long term relationship.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 7/25/2006 12:46:06 PM   
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For myself.....

I am a cold Dominant.  I am somewhat cruel and always coldly in control.  This I guess is my style. 

After play I need space.  I need to be left alone for a bit to gain back some of my 'humanity'.  When I play I become somewhat meglomaniacal.  It is quite a leap from being a God to becoming a human who genuinely cares about another person.  This process takes some time.

Outside of a play environment I am warm, witty, caring, affectionate, etc.  I am very interested in what my slave is doing and try to be a solid block that he can come to in times of crisis.

Perhaps it is this change of head space that leads some to think of some Dominants as cold and uncaring.

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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 8/2/2006 2:32:48 PM   
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im curious to know if there are caring Dommes in the world. Im in love with mine and she with me but have heard that some Dommes are cruel and show no love or caring after sessions is this true?


Absolutely know what you mean...... Couple the loving/understanding nature of Blktllfllfig / Oumae with the elegance/class of Dusty Gold, and then throw in some of Akasha's ambition and tenacity - I'm good to go.

Cold, non-caring women are the biggest turn off in the world.



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Almost forgot....Have to have Tress's warm but sadistic nature ; }


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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 8/2/2006 3:30:44 PM   
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im curious to know if there are caring Dommes in the world. Im in love with mine and she with me but have heard that some Dommes are cruel and show no love or caring after sessions is this true?


I have begun to think that at times I am too caring and need to be more of the stern ilk---


I would so have to agree with this.  There are times I too think that perhaps I am too caring and less stern.  Yet I know that it is Me and I can not change that.  Then again there are times I am a Sadistic Bitch when I shouldn't be!
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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 8/2/2006 3:42:45 PM   
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Dear LadyHugs,

I always really enjoy reading your posts (not only for the content, but also for the consistently serene tone!), and and I agree with so much of what you said in this one. Thanks for putting it out there.

One thing I wasn't clear on was your reference "it is far worse when submissives don't after care their dominant partners after the scene"

What did you mean by this?

Thanks in advance,
Lunamor

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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 8/2/2006 4:25:38 PM   
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Huh?   To the OP, I think you answered your own question (or did I miss something?). 

< Message edited by joyinslavery -- 8/2/2006 4:26:45 PM >


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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 8/2/2006 4:57:44 PM   
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I agree that if someone wants me to truely be a bitch I can in a heartbeat and have no problems with it.... but its not for them to want as far as I see it........Im not a paid Domme and its not for them to tell me if I'm to nice or to mean......if they got to know me then they would know that Im very lovable but in sessions I do what I want

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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 8/2/2006 5:10:51 PM   
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planomaid very well said......

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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 8/2/2006 5:17:13 PM   
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  I think it all depends on what has influenced them.  For many men it has probably been porn, which most often has the bitch like mistress on top of the poor male sub all the time.  I think thats were those fantasies aride from personally,...although I might be wrong....but it is what I've gotten as responses from people I've talked with.

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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 8/2/2006 5:18:33 PM   
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What is a great deal of BDSM/DS but fantasy come to life

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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 8/2/2006 5:24:19 PM   
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And my grinning and giggling like a maniac when I'm hurting you? LOL

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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 8/2/2006 6:04:00 PM   
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I have begun to think that at times I am too caring and need to be more of the stern ilk---


God, MH, I know the feeling all too well. I am so happy to see that you feel this way, you are my hero lol and if you can feel this way, then I don't feel so badly feeling the same way you do. It is so freaking hard to be cruel sometimes even if the situation warrants it.



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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 8/2/2006 7:45:52 PM   
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Porn has had too much of an influence IMO.  There has been a huge shift since the internet and everyone got horny watching what it is that we do.  A Dom/me used to be someone with a truly Dominant personality who acted that out in the Lifestyle.  Now, there is a lot of role playing going on, weekend warriors, "TOPS" calling themselves Dom/mes and bottoms calling themselves subs.  Not that there's anything wrong with that.  Have fun.  Imitation is the highest form of flattery. 

But do not mistake MY kindness for weakness.  I control My environment, and I prefer a peaceful, calm existance.  If I have to beat the crap out of someone to make them behave, that is serving their needs, not Mine.  They are in control, not Me.  If someone is acting out and I have to punish them all the time, I have no use for them.  They need to go.  Let them go pay a ProDomme to get their jollies and needs met.  My needs are met by someone willingly worshipping Me and serving Me.  That means I don't need to be a bitch.  I'm a Goddess.  Being a bitch gives me grey hair and hypertension.  Worrying about a brat is stressful, Who needs it?  The sub I have had for 5 years will break down in tears when I calmly (but firmly) correct her as she lives to please Me.  My son was the same way when he was young, because I am a good Mother.  I never spanked him, I just kept control of My home and he loves Me.  I am a powerful, smart, demanding Woman, thats what a Domme is, isn't it?  My voice is enough.  The people who have stayed in My life for many years go out of their way to please Me, and I let them know they have My favor.  They seek to please Me, that is what a true submissive lives for.  Thats why I have submissives who have been loyal to Me for over 30 years and they are devestated if they displease Me.  That is Dominance.  They do not live for getting the crap beat out of them or being abused.  Thats a Masochist.  I am a Domme, not a Sadist.  There is a big difference.  My most cruel method of discipline is to ignore a sub.  My TRUE loyal subs who want nothing more then My attention and to be near Me, that is the most cruel punishment I can dish out, believe Me.  Bondage, whips, chains, spankings are for scening and play and saved for people who are in My favor.  That stuff is fun.  I can put on leather, fishnets, boots and role play, too.  Thats for Saturday night, parties and dungeoun scenes, not 24/7.  The difference between Who and What I really am, how I run my household and role playing.

So the problem isn't that the Domme's are being too Loving and Caring.  Dominants are Who they are.  The problem is that so called "submissives" are not really submissive.  They are just horny wanker bottoms who want to get spanked, fisted and forced to do things their pussy homophobic asses aren't man enough to do on their own.  Send them to the prostitutes and get a real submissive.  We do not yield to them.  Its the other way around, dears.

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RE: loving and caring Dommes? - 8/2/2006 7:51:45 PM   
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I've been told by many I am not Domme enough becasue I do not punish my boy at the drop of a hat.  That just isnt our dynamic.  He lives for my affection, and serves to make me happy.  We have no need for physical punishment, unless there is a major transgression.  Otheres I have met in the lifestyle dont believe this translates to actual power and control.  My boy believes differently. And quite honestly, as long as I am happy with our dynamic, he is happy serving me my way... outside of us, no one elses opinion matters. as I have told other Doms at clubs before.  You dont like how I do it, then dont do it my way. I dont tell you how to handle your whip, you dont tell me how to handle my pet.

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