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kdsub -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/8/2015 4:26:21 PM)

It is not where but if Politesub...the group existed before our involvement why would you think if we were not involved it would suddenly disband?

Butch




Sanity -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/8/2015 5:13:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


Cornered where?



"The Americans are nowhere near Baghdad" [:D]

[img]http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/_39061593_min-ap-203body.jpg[/img]




Musicmystery -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/8/2015 7:18:43 PM)

...which has nothing to do with the point discussed -- your claim that regime change in Iraq predates W and the neo-cons.

But keep twisting and turning in hopes of a successful spin.




thishereboi -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/8/2015 10:03:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

yes you fuckwit I can read. And I know what the word that are bolded say, that's why I fucking bolded them you jack ass.

And as usual, although I didn't actually make a comment and just copied what you said, you are jumping in with your usual trollish remarks without having the slightest clue why I might have done so.



Fuckwits would be your department sweetiepie. If you had half a fucking brain you could have read the whole thread, worked out what I had actually said, and stopped yourself from looking like a stupid arsehole.

Instead, you just jumped straight in without looking, and removed all doubt.

DS finally got what I had actually said and has kindly appologised, no doubt you dont have the class, or guts, to do the same.

My advice to you would be to stop trolling, start reading, and get a life.




And if you had 1/2 a brain you pinhead you would have realized that what I did was show DS what you really said. But go ahead and keep acting like a fuckwit. It's what you do best.




Kirata -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/9/2015 12:13:56 AM)


~ FYI ~

AMMAN, Jordan (AP)Jordan has launched 56 airstrikes against Islamic State group weapons depots, training centers and military barracks since militants released a video of them burning a Jordanian pilot to death, Jordan's air force chief said Sunday... This includes 19 targets on the first day, 18 on the second and 19 on the third...

Gen. Mansour al-Jabour told reporters, "this is not the end. This is the beginning."

K.






PeonForHer -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/9/2015 1:57:52 AM)

Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.

-Obs what he should have said.




slvemike4u -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/9/2015 2:33:57 AM)

Winnie !!!!!!!




Sanity -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/9/2015 5:46:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

The US has a history of breaking agreements it decides are inconvenient.


Leftists enjoy holding the United States to ridiculously high standards.




Sanity -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/9/2015 5:55:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


I haven't checked the veracity of this, but it's being reported, by a few different sources.

Apparently, the Jordanian pilot was killed a month ago, right after he was captured and IS was still demanding ransom (and a "misunderstood" female suicide bomber), right before the video of this animal brutality was released.

People are saying that this is also a blow for IS because their credibility (if they had any) regarding negotiations for ransom is now shot all to hell and gone; that people can now factor in: "Well, shit. We can give them the money and our people will be dead, anyway".

I will posit that one of the problems with a "war on terror" is that terrorists don't have a government (although, they probably have a hierarchy). They're spread all over the place like horse shit in the lower forty (I like the analogy of scumbag terrorists to horse shit. Sue me). I think, though, that it may be fair to say that IS is using Syria as a base of operations.

I said, in another thread, recently that it is time for us to stop letting Islamic scumba ... errr ... extremists bring the fight to us. It is time to bring the fight to them and this is one fight we had better fight to win, from the beginning. No "peace keeping" bullshit. They need to to be eradicated and annihilated.



Michael



Yet this very post shows you why it is almost impossible to take the fight to them. They have no fixed base, in an area of the world with no real borders. They move fluidly between Syria and Iraq, just as the Taliban and AQ move fluidly between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

As for stopping them, well there was one thing GWB and Blair could have done (although I doubt Tony got much say) And that would have been to do what Bush Cheney et al claimed they would do. BUILD AN INCLUSIVE IRAQ. The day Bremer sacked the majority of Sunnis from any posts they held in the Government/Army, then the seeds of today were sown. AQ gained a stronghold among the Sunni, something they never had, despite georges claim, when saddam was in power. Infact back in 2010 American forces had killed most of the original leaders of ISIL, many of the new leaders come from the original Baathist officers who were under Saddam.

Does anyone doubt that if they had had better equality under Shia rule, we would be where we are today.



The seeds for TODAY were sewn when Barack Obama laughingly called ISIS "Junior Varsity" as he headed out to the golf course





Musicmystery -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/9/2015 6:26:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

The US has a history of breaking agreements it decides are inconvenient.


Leftists enjoy holding the United States to ridiculously high standards.

If keeping our agreements is a "ridiculously high standard," then why would anyone reach agreements with us?





Musicmystery -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/9/2015 6:27:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


I haven't checked the veracity of this, but it's being reported, by a few different sources.

Apparently, the Jordanian pilot was killed a month ago, right after he was captured and IS was still demanding ransom (and a "misunderstood" female suicide bomber), right before the video of this animal brutality was released.

People are saying that this is also a blow for IS because their credibility (if they had any) regarding negotiations for ransom is now shot all to hell and gone; that people can now factor in: "Well, shit. We can give them the money and our people will be dead, anyway".

I will posit that one of the problems with a "war on terror" is that terrorists don't have a government (although, they probably have a hierarchy). They're spread all over the place like horse shit in the lower forty (I like the analogy of scumbag terrorists to horse shit. Sue me). I think, though, that it may be fair to say that IS is using Syria as a base of operations.

I said, in another thread, recently that it is time for us to stop letting Islamic scumba ... errr ... extremists bring the fight to us. It is time to bring the fight to them and this is one fight we had better fight to win, from the beginning. No "peace keeping" bullshit. They need to to be eradicated and annihilated.



Michael



Yet this very post shows you why it is almost impossible to take the fight to them. They have no fixed base, in an area of the world with no real borders. They move fluidly between Syria and Iraq, just as the Taliban and AQ move fluidly between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

As for stopping them, well there was one thing GWB and Blair could have done (although I doubt Tony got much say) And that would have been to do what Bush Cheney et al claimed they would do. BUILD AN INCLUSIVE IRAQ. The day Bremer sacked the majority of Sunnis from any posts they held in the Government/Army, then the seeds of today were sown. AQ gained a stronghold among the Sunni, something they never had, despite georges claim, when saddam was in power. Infact back in 2010 American forces had killed most of the original leaders of ISIL, many of the new leaders come from the original Baathist officers who were under Saddam.

Does anyone doubt that if they had had better equality under Shia rule, we would be where we are today.



The seeds for TODAY were sewn when Barack Obama laughingly called ISIS "Junior Varsity" as he headed out to the golf course



The seeds for today were sown when Iraq was destabilized and an insufficient government elevated to leadership.




Sanity -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/9/2015 7:17:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

The US has a history of breaking agreements it decides are inconvenient.


Leftists enjoy holding the United States to ridiculously high standards.

If keeping our agreements is a "ridiculously high standard," then why would anyone reach agreements with us?




Compared to what other similar countries. Apples to apples please.




Sanity -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/9/2015 7:19:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

The seeds for today were sown when Iraq was destabilized and an insufficient government elevated to leadership.


Is Saddam Husseins' Iraq really your definition of stability?

What a moron.









Musicmystery -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/9/2015 7:29:56 AM)

Well, then George H. Bush was a moron too.

Is THIS your idea of Iraqi stability?

What a moron.




Sanity -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/9/2015 7:38:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well, then George H. Bush was a moron too.

Is THIS your idea of Iraqi stability?

What a moron.


Throw the entire coalition and 99.999% of the Democrat party (who was for it before they were against it) into that mix and you have got yourself a deal, moron

Bush "destabilized" Iraq so much.... Joe Biden called Iraq 'One of the great achievements of this administration'

Then Obama laughingly headed out to the golf course while mocking ISIS as JV










Sanity -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/9/2015 7:42:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Jordan has executed two of its ISIS prisoners. It is a start.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/02/03/islamic-state-jordanian-pilot/22798055/

After ISIS execution, angry King Abdullah quotes Clint Eastwood to U.S. lawmakers ( http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/after-isis-execution-angry-king-abdullah-quotes-clint-eastwood-to-u.s.-lawmakers/article/2559770 )

Hunter would not say which part of "Unforgiven" the king quoted, but noted it was where Eastwood's character describes how he is going to deliver his retribution. There is a scene in the picture in which Eastwood's character, William Munny, says, "Any man I see out there, I'm gonna kill him. Any son of a bitch takes a shot at me, I'm not only going to kill him, I'm going to kill his wife and all his friends and burn his damn house down."


Heh.


Well, you've been wanting to know where the Muslims in opposition to the terrorists are.




Before the immolation, many Muslims were yawning in Jordan

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AMMAN, Jordan - The gruesome killing and cries for revenge have also drowned out dissenting voices, especially from Jordan's powerful Islamist bloc, the largest political force opposed to the Washington-backed monarchy of King Abdullah II.

Lt. Moaz Kasasbeh's elevation to national martyr status has abruptly made opposition to Jordan's participation in the U.S.-led bombing campaign against the Islamic State group appear unpatriotic, if not treasonous. The immolation of Kasasbeh, captured after his F-16 crashed in Syria while he was on a mission with the U.S.-led coalition, has narrowed what is considered acceptable public debate.

"Sitting in a gray area is no longer acceptable," said Oraib Rintawi, director of the Amman-based Al Quds Center for Political Studies. "Public opinion is very angry."

Before the killing was confirmed, many Jordanians - including the pilot's father and other members of his influential southern tribe - openly questioned any participation in the air campaign, declaring it was not Jordan's fight. Besides fear for air crews' safety, some voiced concern about possible Islamic State reprisal attacks in Jordan.

But exuberant endorsement of the aerial bombardment has now become a virtual test of loyalty. Martial scenes and bellicose declarations from the king and others have replaced the normally drab fare of state television. The pilot's father has called for the "annihilation" of Islamic State.

Read more here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2015/02/09/3635642_jordan-outrage-explodes.html?utm_source=feedburner&rh=1#storylink=cpy





Musicmystery -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/9/2015 7:43:27 AM)

It still hasn't dawned on you that ISIS is taking control of Muslim territory and fighting Muslims to do so.

Maybe if you sat down and drew pictures?




Sanity -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/9/2015 7:45:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

It still hasn't dawned on you that ISIS is taking control of Muslim territory and fighting Muslims to do so.

Maybe if you sat down and drew pictures?


Only partially true, and a red herring. More of your lowbrow, trollish ad hominems and obfuscation.




Musicmystery -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/9/2015 7:49:48 AM)

Yeah, your usual terms for reality.

Let's take this slow...who lives in Iraq?

You can Google the answer if it helps. What religion are they?





mnottertail -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/9/2015 7:52:26 AM)

The one that throws shoes at W in tribute?




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