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Politesub53 -> RE: Has ISIS finally went too far? (2/6/2015 5:00:14 PM)
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
From the first two lines of your link.
The group originated as Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad in 1999, which was renamed Tanzim Qaidat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn—commonly known as al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI)—when the group pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda in 2004.
The original group was founded in 1999, as you cleverly point out. It morphed into AQI in 2004, as you not so cleverly missed out. When i was at school, 2003 always came before 2004, how did it work for you ?
The fact is, the original group was set up in Jordan by a Jordanian, again geography tells me Jordan is next to Iraq but isnt actually Iraq. It remains as said, there was no such thing as AQ in Iraq PRIOR to the 2003. Your being obtuse wont alter that fact one iota.
As for you trying to blame the Iraqis, you are happily using a one sided premis which abjectly fails to work. Blame the Shia Leadership, the one that was installed by the left wing BBC (Bush Bremer Cheney) < a joke for sanitys sake > { Mine not his [8D] }
In order to assist Mod3 in her trials and tribualtions, no one was called stupid in the making of this post.
Thank you for agreeing that the seeds of ISIS weren't sown by the actions of Bush, and it is noted that you are playing a name game.
Were the Shia Leadership not Iraqi's? And, I'm not disagreeing that the Bush Administration (which means not just Bush) has some blame for the mess that is Iraq right now. I'm not going to blame Blair, or hold Blair blameless. I'll leave that up to you (though it seems you want to blame Blair only for being a Bush lapdog).
Which group is "the original group?" Was it "Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad" or something else?
Now you are using sanitys trick of putting words in my mouth. Is that really the best you can do ?
Just to make clear to you what I was actually saying, altough it is something a four year old would have understood, The origins of the group may have been in Jordan, but they WERE NOT IN IRAQ PRIOR to Bush and Blairs illegal war. The fact you are unable to see such a simple premis is your problem, not mine. The other fact that you cant even read your own link is unforgivable. If you had read it (Your link) You would know the groups original name.
And yes, the Shia are Iraqis, but they were not the origin of the current civil war, just the result of failed US policies not that I think Blair had much input. I am even dubious Bush had much clout, most likely his "team" pulling the strings.
I am unsure if you just love acting like a moron or aare just really thick, since you just blather on denying any facts ever given to you, about anything, in thread after thread.
Finally, your suggestion I dislike Blair because he seen as Bush`s lapdog is fucking laughable, given the previous posts I have made on the man.
He is a lying shit who has lost any scruples he once held. Sanity and other suggest I am left wing, I am not. not by a fucking long way. Blair was left wing until the day he got power, just like the rest of New Labour. They sold out any principles they held and became Thatcher light. Since leaving office he has held, and still holds, some despicable posts as a political advisor to many of the world biggest tyrants. The man is a two faced prick undeserving of any respect. He even gave Khazakstan damage limitation advice after the Zhanaozen massacre..... Look it up.
I hold him in contempt for the suffering he has caused and the tryants he has worked for, I hold him in contempt for the principles he has lost. I hold him in contempt for all the loss of life, military and civillians since 2003 in Iraq. Middle East peace Envoy ?....... Like fuck is he.
So while I also hold Bush and co in Contempt, Blair get the most of my anger..... Why ? because he did much of what he did in my name and my Countrys name....... well fuck you Tony.
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