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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/6/2015 10:20:52 PM   
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I think we've gotten far enough off track with the whole "Affordable Obamacare Act" discussion. Let's instead focus on the Original Topic of how long the sniveling piece of diamond encrusted shit should spend in prison for douchebaggery on a post 911 airplane. I started the bidding at 5 years, do I hear 10?

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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 2:30:24 AM   
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I feel those whom have greater levels of influence, money, and power, should be held to a greater level of scrutiny, accountability and responsibility with power.

So your solution to some people being more equal than others is to hold some people more accountable than others?


Right now, we treat someone whom steals $10,000 more harshly than a group of individuals that wrecked the United States economy in 2007. How many bankers, financial controllers, and CEO's were jailed and fined for their actions/in-actions? Lets compare that to those stealing money at the individual level. Its a pretty lopsided comparison.

The solution is, yes, hold those with more power, influence, and money, to higher levels of accountability and responsibility. Because if this does not happen, then whats the point of the US Constitution?

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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 2:37:54 AM   
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A paraphrasing of George Orwell's 'Animal Farm' famous words.

Recently, Conrad Hilton, of the Hilton family was charged by the FBI in connection to a flight he took last summer. What he is accused of doing and such can be found in the source material below....

SOURCE

How is it, this little shit can get away with breaking more than one federal laws and escape the law? Because he is rich! His attitude that since we are all 'peasants' that we should be happy he is gracing us with his presence! If anyone not worth multiple millions of dollars did this sort of crap on a plane, we would be hauled off to jail and await arraignment in the morning, right? But this adult is allow to avoid all that....because....he is rich!

The founding fathers understood that when we as a society allowed two forms of laws to come into being. One that effects the power and rich, and the other for all of us; that tyranny isnt to far behind. When the rich and powerful can avoid the penalties and punishments easily; should strike any good 'honest and law abiding' citizen with anger. That when this person turns themselves in, six months later, that we should be lenient with him?

Actually, we, the country, were lenient with him. His bail is $100,000. For most of us, that is a TON OF MONEY. But when your worth several multiple millions if not tens of millions; is it really an issue? Is it really a threat?

This person needs to be place in the hardcore sections of prison while awaiting his trial. In general population, to live with those 'peasants' he feels are below him. I'm sure there would be plenty of 'gentleman' whom would protect him from the evil criminals....

No, I feel those whom have greater levels of influence, money, and power, should be held to a greater level of scrutiny, accountability and responsibility with power. Otherwise, we might as all wear slave collars so we dont forget our 'place' in their society....

Since some have more resources than others they should they should be treated differently (more harshly) under the law?


How many black people have had an army of lawyers to convince a high profile court and jury that the damning evidence was not true? Since O.J. Simpson got away with murder. What did he have that most other blacks in the nation dont?

Dick Cheney shots someone in the head. Even if it was an accident, the legal system can still take action. Most people that get shot (not necessarily above the shoulders), even if it was an accident, are STILL charged and sent to a court room. Why did Mr. Cheney get away with it?

Ted Cruz tried to shut the entire US Government down! If any terrorist organization were to do that, would that be bad? Of Course it would be! But if Mr. Cruz does it (even partially), its 'ok'. How about all those right wing, gun nuts, in 'militias' that the FBI has taken down over the years and sent to prison?

The purpose of the US Constitution is to treat....ALL PERSONS....not just some, a few, or certain groups.....EQUALLY UNDER THE LAW. So why is it this is not happening? That the rich, powerful, and influential can get away with openly doing a crime, while the rest of us would be dragged off to prison for a few decades?

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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 2:41:13 AM   
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All insurance that can work that way...works that way. It is a transfer of risk. Those having less risk pay a smaller premium, those with greater risk pay a higher premium.


Thanks for the backup

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Before the ACA, the elderly and infirm were priced out of the market...too much risk to satisfy investor greed. It IS that simple.



No, there was and is Medicare and Medicaid

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Now they can't but still, the ACA...is a windfall for the health care insurance investor due to the healthy transferring a risk so low purchasers had no intention of doing so...until they did so when there was an emergency...to other premium payers.



Thats my point, the healthy are penalized under Obamacare

Thank you. Also I had forgot to mention the huge transfer of wealth into Obama crony pockets



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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 3:08:59 AM   
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How is it, this little shit can get away with breaking more than one federal laws and escape the law?

First of all, didn't you read the article? He's out on $100k bail. That means he hasn't gotten away with anything. He just hasn't been tried yet. Are you willing to forego his right to a trial, just because he's a rich brat?


What is $100,000 bail to someone with access to $100,000,000+? That's like $0.10 to you or me. Does that sound pathetic to you? Imagine all those whom are being charged with murder, rape, armed robbery, and even terrorism; whom can post a $0.10 bail. Do you...REALLY....want them on the streets so quickly?

Did I mention he doesn't have a right to trial? No, I expect him to go to trial like anyone else accused of crimes. That he is treated no differently than someone else that doesnt have access to vast fortunes, political favors, and influence over the courts.

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From the details in the article, I can't see how this kid isn't going to be spending time in jail. If he gets away with the things he's accused of doing, I'll be just as pissed as you that he was able to buy his way out. At this point, though, that would be jumping the gun, so to speak.


So what sort of punishment could an 'average joe' expect to receive after all of this stuff? Just for clogging up a smoke detector in the bathroom is like $2200-5000. For the average 'joe', that's a pile of money. How much is it, to someone with $100,000,000? The 'penalty' becomes laughable.

Threatening someone is battery. The average 'joe' with a court appointed lawyer, could face some serious penalities. Now compare that with someone that can have an army of lawyers that know their shit? Like the 'Dream Team' O.J. Simpson had.

Why do we not see more people behaving like savages on a plane? The penalties are pretty damn stiff. But those penalties are for 'average' people with 'average' resources. What if the penalty was just a nickle? Or you had to wait off the plane until everyone else was on it, to be escorted to to your first class seat? How much would that be a penalty?

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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 3:17:05 AM   
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I am good with equal under the law. Which is why I am more annoyed that David Gregory has not been prosecuted.
Back in the day a guy showing his ass like Hilton ways would have gotten his teeth knocked in. Too bad that was not able to happen here. Or at least coshed in the head by a male flight attendant.


I wonder how Joether is going to address the Brian Williams lie.

No I don't.


Like conservatives/libertarians hold conservative media to the same level of accountability and responsibility with 'the press' as Mr. Williams? How often does FOX 'news' lie again, DS? How many threads have you created attacking FOX 'news' for lying in the last year? None of you conservative/libertarians have a leg to stand on....

That Mr. Williams embellished on a story when he knows better, is disappointing. He has a freedom of speech to embellish things. Otherwise, we have to hold FOX news to several million moments of 'embellishing'. Where is the thread on that one again? Oh that's right, not created....

You want to hang Mr. Williams? Sure, just after you do the same from Hannity to Stormfront. Don't see that happening in the next ten years....

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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 3:46:27 AM   
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WHy dont you start a new thread on Brian williams lie/mistake(hahahha) instead of derailing this one as a way of ignoring the actual topic. Brian williams lied, but Hilton broke a law, apparently.
Not the same thing,
Unless you wanna excuse affluenza and hjjack
A lie versus a criminal charge...
You wanna see Williams charged with lying?
Losing his job, maybe, trust in his abilities to be impartial? thats ok. it happens to liars.
But why the hell should Joether answer when it has bugger all to do with the thread.


When have you...EVER...known one of these people to hold a conservative/libertarian to the same level of accountability and responsibility with power, as they slam President Obama and the Democrats on an hourly basis? Name all those posts that have come to the forums in the last three years? That we can count them on one hand and have four fingers/ one thumb left over...

Yes, derailing the thread is what they have to do. Because they dont have a leg to stand on. They give the rich and powerful whom share their causes with complete freedom, and then bitch about the after effects it causes. How many tried to blame the whole bad economy on Obama in his first few months in office? Did the Koch brothers earn all their wealth like Warren Buffet? You know, they guy the love to attack when they can?

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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 3:55:40 AM   
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I wonder what a law to make attractive people more equal to ugly people would look like, with a rider penalizing people for being young

Obamacare already penalizes health, so thats done

...by bringing others up to healthy lives.

He's evil, that man.


I didnt write Obama, I wrote Obamacare. Try to pay attention

And no, Obamacare literally "redistributes" money from the healthy to the unhealthy

Work out, eat right, take proper care of yourself and pay the way for those who dont


Could you point out on which page in the ACA where it states 'this law redistributes money from the healthy to the unhealthy'? Thanks in advance....

The law does not redistribute 'wealth' from the healthy to the unheathy, because it was never created to do that! Maybe you should try...READING THE LAW....instead of opening your mouth. That you have a poor understanding of science, economics, politics, and just common sense, is on display every time you post....

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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 4:02:59 AM   
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Everyone calls it Obamacare, dunce

And no, insurance has never been about penalizing those who are dilligant about things

That's purely a leftist thing


Everyone calls it that? funny, since 2010, I've called it either 'The Affordable Care Act' or simply the 'ACA'. Most intelligent, educated, and mature people call it the same. Funny that long after Mr. Obama leaves office, he'll be remembered as a Democrat whom did good for the American people.

People that are unintelligent, uneducated, and immature, most likely have never read the ACA. As such, other people tend to manipulate these people for their own agendas. The ACA does quite a bit of good at the individual level. But you do not hold the capacity to understand it. Your 'talking' points I've seen on dozens of conservative blogs and forums. That you think like mindless robots is both amusing and sad at the same time. Amusing in that I dont have to work hard to thrash your points. Sad, that you keep failing the founding father's expectations of future generations.

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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 4:20:58 AM   
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I think we've gotten far enough off track with the whole "Affordable Obamacare Act" discussion. Let's instead focus on the Original Topic of how long the sniveling piece of diamond encrusted shit should spend in prison for douchebaggery on a post 911 airplane. I started the bidding at 5 years, do I hear 10?


Why stop at a prison sentence? Put down a $100,000,000 fine. Then we'll have alot less of 'Do you know who I am, asshole?" types on planes. The 8th amendment protects against 'cruel and unusual' penalties. But that is assuming the person is normal and usual. Mr. Conrad Hilton's case, is not neither a normal person nor usual. Therefore, charging him a hefty penalty of $10,000,000 is the same as $5,000 for most of us working stiffs.

How do we treat people fairly, across the board, when one person is charged 1/9th of their yearly earnings, and another is charged the equivalent of $0.05? For doing the same thing? What keeps people with power, money, and/or influence from behaving like assholes and tyrants, when the penalties they....might....face (unlike the rest of us who WILL face it), in line with the rest of us? Honest and law abiding?


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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 4:34:21 AM   
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People that are unintelligent, uneducated, and immature, most likely have never read the ACA...


How conveniently you ignore the fact that the Obamacare architect calls Obamacare supporters "stupid voters"

Gruber further admitted that Obamacare was purposely written so as to deceive

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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 5:02:53 AM   
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All insurance that can work that way...works that way. It is a transfer of risk. Those having less risk pay a smaller premium, those with greater risk pay a higher premium.

Thanks for the backup


Ya didnt study the problem...either of you! Insurance was not being placed with 'low amounts' for good health individuals and 'high amounts' for the eldarly or ill. It was being based on a number of criteria:

A ) One's gender
B ) One's age
C ) Ones race
D ) Ones current health and the scientific understanding of it

The ACA explains what a healthcare policy must have within it, to be grandfathered under the law. Which is why many policies were phased out in insurance companies across the nation. Because of points A, B, and C, and to a minor extent, D. The media failed to explain this information to the general public. In fact, many of them either didnt explain it, or embellished it (i.e. FOX 'news' and fear mongering).

That while many Americans suffer with an assortment of low level health conditions (i.e. asthma), they were treated as if they had high level health conditions (i.e. stage 4 cancers). The policies ranged so widely that no one policy was like or exact to any other policy in the nation. So comparing policies was difficult at best, and impossible at worst.

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Before the ACA, the elderly and infirm were priced out of the market...too much risk to satisfy investor greed. It IS that simple.

No, there was and is Medicare and Medicaid


An people were...STILL...being priced out of healthcare insurance. People were....STILL....suffering health conditions that a trip to a doctor's office could fix. Most people who had simple medical problems either went to the emergency room or 'suffered' through it. How does one enjoy liberty when they are suffering?

When Massachusetts established healthcare for all US Citizens whom were Mass Citizens, the level of health in the commonwealth rose. Opponents stated it would bankrupt the commonwealth within a year. That people would abuse it. Well....they were wrong. It help lowered the crowding in emergency rooms, so the doctors could treat the ones that...REALLY...needed attention. It helped people visit doctors for an assortment of problems and start working on the conditions. It even helped me get one combat vet in to see a therapist.....BECAUSE....the VA was unable to help him properly (ok, I convinced his folks to do it).

Back in 2008, it got me to wondering. How do people in the other 49 handle these sorts of problems? Without resources? Yet, deal with many of the known conditions and problems that plague mankind. Particularly as humans grow older?

That conservatives cant acknowledge it, shows a real lack of reality.

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Now they can't but still, the ACA...is a windfall for the health care insurance investor due to the healthy transferring a risk so low purchasers had no intention of doing so...until they did so when there was an emergency...to other premium payers.

Thats my point, the healthy are penalized under Obamacare

Thank you. Also I had forgot to mention the huge transfer of wealth into Obama crony pockets


I was once in that 'healthy' category that you so deeply champion, Sanity. Didnt have health coverage, was healthy and exercised every other day. I ate healthy and well. Then an illness developed. The hospital bill for the first emergency room visit was $8,000. Tell me, Sanity, how many 30'somethings have $8,000 just lying around? Did I mention that was the first visit? How about the next three? How many 30 somethings have $40,000 just lying around in their bank account for a rainy day?

You live in this complete fantasy world. Its devoid of economics, science, reasoning, common sense, and education. I've destroyed all your arguments in the past, and will destroy them in the future.

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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 5:14:13 AM   
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I was once in that 'healthy' category that you so deeply champion


You are working awfully hard to invent an argument that I did not make

My only point in this thread was an on-topic observation that Obamacare penalizes the healthy, redistributes wealth from the healthy to the unhealthy

That is what Gruber worked so hard to cover up. What he mocked voters for being too stupid to perceive...

Didnt make any sort of judgement, just observed and commented on that basic fact, and compared it to the sentiment expressed in the OP re making everything "fair"

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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 5:14:40 AM   
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People that are unintelligent, uneducated, and immature, most likely have never read the ACA...

How conveniently you ignore the fact that the Obamacare architect calls Obamacare supporters "stupid voters"

Gruber further admitted that Obamacare was purposely written so as to deceive


Do you know what he thinks of those that opposed the bill? Much, much....MUCH....worst.

Mr. Gruber was annoyed that people did not bother to...READ THE FUCKING BILL...before supporting/opposing it. Nor once it was pass, to read it to understand what was in it and what was not in it. I guess you missed that underlying theme....(like many)

Apparently, Mr. Gruber, unlike you, knows how to apologize. There is much more reason to passing that bill into law. To promote better behaviors in the citizens of the nation. But you just look at the cost to your wallet and remain a 'short term' viewpoint. One's health is a 'long term' viewpoint. I would think at your age that you would understand that by now. Maybe I'm wrong...

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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 5:30:52 AM   
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I was once in that 'healthy' category that you so deeply champion

You are working awfully hard to invent an argument that I did not make


Didn't have to work at all. Its called 'History', Sanity. My History. I think I know my history better than you know my history. So therefore, I was giving history as it relates (directly actually) to the thread. You dont like that. Tough shit!

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My only point in this thread was an on-topic observation that Obamacare penalizes the healthy, redistributes wealth from the healthy to the unhealthy


How does it penalize the healthy? In exact terms please.

Because it doesnt redistribute wealth from one person to another. That's a conservative talking point that cant stand up to scrutiny.

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That is what Gruber worked so hard to cover up. What he mocked voters for being too stupid to perceive...


Oh....he 'covered it up', like a conspiracy? Please....

How do you 'cover up' a bill that the public had access to a week before it was debated let alone voted on? I like to hear your bullshit answer on this one....

I agree with Mr. Gruber, Americans have been stupid on this law. They didnt bother to read it and instead had other people do their thinking for them. How many times over the last four years have I schooled you on the conservative talking points you regurgitated to us on this forum? More than you can count. Why? Because I took the time to read it!

The majority of people whom have read it and dont have a political agenda, agree on two things: Its a fair bill, and it could be improved upon. But I cant discuss with you on what could be improved upon. I'd have to explain a small book of information....just....to explain the parts I think should be improved upon. But I have this feeling you would be automatically against it....because it would help Americans out.

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Didnt make any sort of judgement, just observed and commented on that basic fact, and compared it to the sentiment expressed in the OP re making everything "fair"


Facts? You? Affordable Care Act?

What is it like to live in Sanityland? Do you get your passport stamped when you cross over to our reality? Does it go in a little book or on your ass?

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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 5:43:25 AM   
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I am not about to bother with all of your inanity

I will just ask you this, joether

If it doesnt redistribute wealth, what do you think is so great about it

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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 6:15:44 AM   
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How is it, this little shit can get away with breaking more than one federal laws and escape the law?

First of all, didn't you read the article? He's out on $100k bail. That means he hasn't gotten away with anything. He just hasn't been tried yet. Are you willing to forego his right to a trial, just because he's a rich brat?


What is $100,000 bail to someone with access to $100,000,000+? That's like $0.10 to you or me. Does that sound pathetic to you? Imagine all those whom are being charged with murder, rape, armed robbery, and even terrorism; whom can post a $0.10 bail. Do you...REALLY....want them on the streets so quickly?

Did I mention he doesn't have a right to trial? No, I expect him to go to trial like anyone else accused of crimes. That he is treated no differently than someone else that doesnt have access to vast fortunes, political favors, and influence over the courts.

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From the details in the article, I can't see how this kid isn't going to be spending time in jail. If he gets away with the things he's accused of doing, I'll be just as pissed as you that he was able to buy his way out. At this point, though, that would be jumping the gun, so to speak.


So what sort of punishment could an 'average joe' expect to receive after all of this stuff? Just for clogging up a smoke detector in the bathroom is like $2200-5000. For the average 'joe', that's a pile of money. How much is it, to someone with $100,000,000? The 'penalty' becomes laughable.

Threatening someone is battery. The average 'joe' with a court appointed lawyer, could face some serious penalities. Now compare that with someone that can have an army of lawyers that know their shit? Like the 'Dream Team' O.J. Simpson had.

Why do we not see more people behaving like savages on a plane? The penalties are pretty damn stiff. But those penalties are for 'average' people with 'average' resources. What if the penalty was just a nickle? Or you had to wait off the plane until everyone else was on it, to be escorted to to your first class seat? How much would that be a penalty?




Earlier you claimed the solution was to hold them to a higher level of accountability and responsibility and yet in this post you say you don't think he should be treated any differently. So which is it?

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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 6:45:58 AM   
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Everyone calls it Obamacare, dunce

And no, insurance has never been about penalizing those who are dilligant about things

That's purely a leftist thing


Everyone calls it that? funny, since 2010, I've called it either 'The Affordable Care Act' or simply the 'ACA'. Most intelligent, educated, and mature people call it the same. Funny that long after Mr. Obama leaves office, he'll be remembered as a Democrat whom did good for the American people.

People that are unintelligent, uneducated, and immature, most likely have never read the ACA. As such, other people tend to manipulate these people for their own agendas. The ACA does quite a bit of good at the individual level. But you do not hold the capacity to understand it. Your 'talking' points I've seen on dozens of conservative blogs and forums. That you think like mindless robots is both amusing and sad at the same time. Amusing in that I dont have to work hard to thrash your points. Sad, that you keep failing the founding father's expectations of future generations.



I guess the folks at huffpo didn't get that memo...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/25/hillary-clinton-obamacare_n_5531334.html

or the VP for that matter...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/01/25/biden-to-doctors-obamacare-settled-it-health-care-is-a-right/



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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 6:52:42 AM   
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I am not about to bother with all of your inanity

I will just ask you this, joether

If it doesnt redistribute wealth, what do you think is so great about it

Whats so great about people actually being able to get hold of ongoing medical care they need, even when they cant afford it???
you wanna call it wealth distribution or inequality,
I call it saving lives and the general welfare of the whole population

You havent read the ACA, you have constantly posted bullshit about it (especially regarding the tax penalties), oh and death panels and a host of other crap that has been debunked, and flounced like above to Joe, because you cant answer his questions.

Back on "topic"
daddy will take care of lil conrads bills and he will get a bitch slap on the wrist..
and he can go on with terrorizing the little people on a plane....maybe daddy should let him have his own.
talk about inequality, LOL
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RE: We are all equal, but some of us are more equal... - 2/7/2015 6:53:29 AM   
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What I think is so great about redistributing wealth is that it was ours in the first place.

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