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and in case you miss the irony of your "holocaust" point. there is nothing inherently "right" about bigotry, in fact, conservatives and libertarian types are primarily color blind when it comes to race and ethnicity, as opposed to leftists who see pretty everything through that particular prism---and um---its the left who were then and are today, the anti-Semitic crowd.

Nazism is a leftists wet dream.

I barely know where to begin here.

The term far-right is distinct from the radical right. The term "radical right" is strongly associated with conservatism and libertarianism while the term "far right" is used to describe groups more associated with racism and hate.

It is a pretty stupid and clumsy lie to assert that the Nazi's were "leftist", they banned socialist and communist groups.

It is also pretty stupid to assert that the "left" is the anti-semitic crowd.

And only a disgusting nasty little stain would assert that Nazism is a leftist's wet dream.

I acknowledge that, especially here, there is a natural tendency to pop people into containers labelled "leftist" or "rightist" and then to create fabulous and extreme characterizations of what a "leftist" or a "rightist" might feel or believe but it's not entirely useful.


"Leftist" could mean anything from someone who believes that socialized healthcare is a good thing, or it could mean that state ownership of everything is a good thing"

"Rightist" could mean anything from a passionate belief in small government and individual freedom, or it could mean that corporate ownership of everything is a good thing.

Perhaps these are nuances that you miss.

You are trying telling us with a straight face, that the Nationalist Socialists (the Nazis name for themselves) outlawed every group that called itself 'socialists'



You got a link for that?

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You are trying telling us with a straight face, that the Nationalist Socialists (the Nazis name for themselves) outlawed every group that called itself 'socialists'

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You are trying telling us with a straight face, that the Nationalist Socialists (the Nazis name for themselves) outlawed every group that called itself 'socialists'

You're on a hiding to nothing zeroing in on the word 'socialists' in the context of 'national socialists', Sanity. 'Socialists' in that sense just refers to 'the people as a whole' rather than one particular class. It's meaningless beyond that.

But, *sigh*, I think at some level you probably know this. You know that 'national socialism' is not some sub-department of 'socialism'. Which is why I don't generally bother to talk to you - because you are a tiresome troll.

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Just wondering NorthernGent why all the emphasis on education when it comes to rape and sexual assault? I find it against human nature to think education makes you less likely to rape or sexually assault someone... And... other than competition, which I think plays a greater role than racism, would the lack of education and economic stability make you more racists?

Butch

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Is it possible that's why they fought a bloody no quarter given war against each other ?
Just asking.....

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the evidence suggests that semi-illiterate peasants alone can see any value in the far right

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the evidence suggests that semi-illiterate peasants alone can see any value in the far right

You do realize what you are saying? So hard working people that are economically challenged are peasants and in your opinion are far more likely to be radical in their politics and lean towards rape and sex trafficking?

Butch

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Police in swoop on 45 more men over child sex grooming: 'Milestone' operation sees dozens of Asian suspects charged with rape, sexual assault and trafficking

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In a separate case, 25 men from Halifax, West Yorkshire, were charged with a number of historic and child-related sex offences.

Almost all of the men in both cases are from Asian backgrounds, prompting police leading one of the cases to warn that far-Right groups may use the issue to stir up racial tension.

Because "racial tension" is just as bad as rape, sexual assault, and trafficking?

What is so wrong with people getting upset over this? Sounds like its about time for the far-right, the right, the center, the liberals and anyone else that has some basic standards to get upset.

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the evidence suggests that semi-illiterate peasants alone can see any value in the far right

You do realize what you are saying? So hard working people that are economically challenged are peasants and in your opinion are far more likely to be radical in their politics and lean towards rape and sex trafficking?

Butch

I know exactly what I'm saying, but clearly you don't.

The far right are drawn almost exclusively from a part of the population with few qualifications and skills. There's a reason for that.

Who said anything about them being 'far more likely to rape? I think your eyes are playing tricks on you.

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lets take this chap shall we?
A Republican state lawmaker said Thursday that women who become pregnant from sexual assault should not be exempt from an anti-abortion measure, because childbirth resulting from rape is "beautiful."

"Obviously rape is awful," West Virginia Del. Brian Kurcaba (R) said during a committee hearing on a new abortion restriction, according to David Gutman, a Charleston Gazette reporter. "What is beautiful is the child that could come from this."

Kurcaba, a financial adviser, was elected to the House of Delegates in November.


He may be a financial advisor, but he is ignorant about women and rape
and he is a lawmaker....if he was educated to believe that women are more than incubators. He couldnt be as dumb to believe what he states.

A group that systematically threatens and rapes young girls for years is the moral equivalent of a man that thinks all babies have equal worth. Nice.

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Just wondering NorthernGent why all the emphasis on education when it comes to rape and sexual assault? I find it against human nature to think education makes you less likely to rape or sexually assault someone... And... other than competition, which I think plays a greater role than racism, would the lack of education and economic stability make you more racists?

Butch

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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and in case you miss the irony of your "holocaust" point. there is nothing inherently "right" about bigotry, in fact, conservatives and libertarian types are primarily color blind when it comes to race and ethnicity, as opposed to leftists who see pretty everything through that particular prism---and um---its the left who were then and are today, the anti-Semitic crowd.

Nazism is a leftists wet dream.

I barely know where to begin here.

The term far-right is distinct from the radical right. The term "radical right" is strongly associated with conservatism and libertarianism while the term "far right" is used to describe groups more associated with racism and hate.

It is a pretty stupid and clumsy lie to assert that the Nazi's were "leftist", they banned socialist and communist groups.

It is also pretty stupid to assert that the "left" is the anti-semitic crowd.

And only a disgusting nasty little stain would assert that Nazism is a leftist's wet dream.

I acknowledge that, especially here, there is a natural tendency to pop people into containers labelled "leftist" or "rightist" and then to create fabulous and extreme characterizations of what a "leftist" or a "rightist" might feel or believe but it's not entirely useful.


"Leftist" could mean anything from someone who believes that socialized healthcare is a good thing, or it could mean that state ownership of everything is a good thing"

"Rightist" could mean anything from a passionate belief in small government and individual freedom, or it could mean that corporate ownership of everything is a good thing.

Perhaps these are nuances that you miss.

You are trying telling us with a straight face, that the Nationalist Socialists (the Nazis name for themselves) outlawed every group that called itself 'socialists'



You got a link for that?

Well I am not sure what bearing the straightness of my face has on the actual fucking facts of history. They banned all other parties you halfwit.

Get a grown up to google “Gleichschaltung,”

As for the presence of the word "socialist" in the Nazi party's name you're (as fucking usual) a confused little troll.

The Nazi party's definition of "Socialism" was not the same as Marx's. But I know that will fly waaaaaaay over your pea sized brain.

So your assertion that the Nazis "banned socialist and communist groups" morphs into "they banned all other parties"

Have you any other changes to your version of history to declare?

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I'm sure there must be a few of your countrymen who still pine for the days when the Sun never set on the British Empire?

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The Nazis banned the National Socialist Party of Germany in 1933. The same year that the Nazis banned the communists.

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National Socialism, German Nationalsozialismus, also called Nazism or Naziism, totalitarian movement led by Adolf Hitler as head of the Nazi Party in Germany.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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The Nazis banned the National Socialist Party of Germany in 1933. The same year that the Nazis banned the communists.

No, they did not ban themselves

One day you will graduate and you will no longer have to come to me for your schooling

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National Socialism, German Nationalsozialismus, also called Nazism or Naziism, totalitarian movement led by Adolf Hitler as head of the Nazi Party in Germany.