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needlesandpins -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 1:54:10 PM)
you know my long distance sight is fantastic, however, I really couldn't see you all the way back there in the 1950s. here in 2015 you could actually be really liberal, and offer to pay for him on a date. before you pull any d/s crap on me too. until it's set that that's what is going on, you're just two people meeting up. needles

Kittenluv954 -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 1:56:18 PM)
could be, but am not. /shrug. neither of us is wrong for our beliefs.

crazyml -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 2:04:15 PM)
So you don't want women to have equal rights, equal pay, and to be taken seriously?

Kittenluv954 -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 2:08:03 PM)
if you think any of those things are happening now, you are fooling yourself. what i personally want is my own concern, i was only sharing my opinion on the OPs question.

GoddessManko -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 2:09:24 PM)
This entire thread makes me a little sad about the state of affairs regarding men. Men typically are the protectors and providers in every species. There are exceptions to the rule but they are so few. My father raised us to expect a certain standard for ourselves (Sorry dad but you see what we're working with!). He and my mother married when she was 20 and he was 22. He knew she wouldn't accept any less than making an honest woman out of her, it's called STANDARDS. Yet nowadays men don't want to do that AND expect us to not have them pick up a tab. My father built her a house, bought her a car and provided her with maids and nannies and the one thing I remember most about him is that he never complained. He enjoyed being our strength and our center. He worked long hours and did domestic duties. He was such a GOOD MAN. Now it's turned into "well this is all part of the equal rights package". How convenient! LMAO Can't we be DIFFERENT but equal? Since when is running a household a walk in the park? Unless you just expect her to suck your dick and gtfo. I will tell you now, I am my father's daughter. I have no problem being the one everyone close to me can turn to, worked for everything I have and when MEN would want me as their wives but not their business partners I gave them the finger and started my own entrepreneurial pursuits. But don't you think it's a little sad that the one thing life has taught me is that the only person I can rely on is MYSELF? Moreso than any man? Isn't that a tad bit, I don't know, pathetic? Considering my background? How far the mighty have fallen. That we have these older guys looking for the Bush recession babies 10 years MY JUNIOR yet saying "I don't get why they expect me to flip the bill?" Forget marriage, even getting a guy to commit has this entire list of requirements and expectations often times, but it's SO EASY to scapegoat the women, isn't it? My friend is a millionaire and UC Berkeley, when he married his wife he married someone who looks like and fucks like a porn star. Everyone's standards are different and that should be OK. Well good luck figuring it out sunshine. By the way, most of those who drive Pinterest marketing are upperclass WOMEN. Women are consumers? Shocking. And they are also my customers. The best thing about my bed is I bought it and it is mine. So why share yours? [8\|] But don't try to visit me at my home in the islands sweetpea. You're not welcome. I'll gladly pick up the $50 tab in order to deny you that. Funny thing too about this thread, I have been on the other side of this where I picked up the tab for myself and my friend without expectation and thought nothing of it...Anyway...

DerangedUnit -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 2:30:39 PM)
I agree with what manko and kitten have said If a guy asks me out to dinner, yep I expect him to pay, I also expect him to order for me... it's his money he chooses. But then I don't often agree to go out to dinner with guys, I prefer to meet in the day time, go for a walk. I don't eat that much so going out to eat is over kill for me. I had 2 dates last year one he wanted to go out for sushi, the idea of me paying never mentioned, the second was with someone new to the state who I knew was looking for work so I brought food with me and we just hung out at the beach. I would never go out to eat if it were my idea so yeah I would never pay for something I wouldn't do. I've been around guys who expect me to make the money, keep the house, take care of them, and have the babies while they sit around and what, look pretty? My sisters fiance is like that and she is the most traditional girl you'll meet but she thinks all guys are like that and if she wants a family she has to put up with it. It's sad. But then I found someone who has been through multiple marraiges, lost his fortune to child support and alimony.... and was happy about that. He still wanted to support the people he loved even if they weren't around. There was no expectation of what he would get out of it, they were just his family. I didn't even know that could exist anymore. My grandparents were all married until one died (always the guy first), my parents generation all the guys upgraded to new women every ten years and the women who gave them their youth were taken care of, my generation.... all my cousins have kids, jobs, educations... and deadbeat baby daddies.... I don't see how that is better.

crazyml -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 2:46:18 PM)
No need to get in a snit. I was just asking the question. And no... I don't think any of those things are happening now. But hey, I've been able to form a new opinion. But I won't share it.

usememistress775 -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 2:47:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crazyml No need to get in a snit. I was just asking the question. And no... I don't think any of those things are happening now. But hey, I've been able to form a new opinion. But I won't share it. Not sharing an opinion? Are you sure you know how the internet works?

GoddessManko -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 2:52:16 PM)
I'm not in a snit, I'm just not of the same mind as people like OP, I'm sorry. My family knows that about me. And my sub knows my heart and home is always welcome to him because neither is he. Always and forever this will be the case. I can't handle people who only want to know what they can get out of the deal. I I am also not gonna tally points with someone as far as generosity goes. I have paid for dates with men and it's because they were very casual, sure, let's go dutch. But don't tell me you're shocked that a woman's upkeep to look nice for you has actual cost. Then you're just being disingenuous, cloudboy brought this up on another thread. ETA, By the way this apple crumble pie I made is delicious, you can google the recipe including how to make the crust from scratch. Here's the one I used. Apple Crumble Pie

crazyml -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 2:56:22 PM)
I didn't think you were in a snit ;-)

needlesandpins -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 3:07:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GoddessManko I'm not in a snit, I'm just not of the same mind as people like OP, I'm sorry. My family knows that about me. And my sub knows my heart and home is always welcome to him because neither is he. Always and forever this will be the case. I can't handle people who only want to know what they can get out of the deal. I I am also not gonna tally points with someone as far as generosity goes. I have paid for dates with men and it's because they were very casual, sure, let's go dutch. But don't tell me you're shocked that a woman's upkeep to look nice for you has actual cost. Then you're just being disingenuous, cloudboy brought this up on another thread. ETA, By the way this apple crumble pie I made is delicious, you can google the recipe including how to make the crust from scratch. Here's the one I used. Apple Crumble Pie What on has what it's taken you to get ready got to do with whether a guy should pay for a date? A guy doesn't dictate that you spend xxx amount to get ready. the offer from a woman to pay shouldn't be because he's being casual, or because she has been brought up differently to you, but because she has standards of independence of her own. I have no expectations of a men other than he has good manners, and is polite. I have been brought up to have very high standards, and that if I want those standards then to rely on myself for them. It's a very backward view that a man should provide anything to a woman until there is an actual commitment. in fact it's just double standards. it's well enough if he offers, but he shouldn't feel obligated, and certainly not because she got her nails and hair done. needles

Kittenluv954 -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 3:35:55 PM)
manko.. that pie. drools

DarkSteven -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 3:38:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kittenluv954 i have never asked a man to pay me to show up for a date. any amount, ever. yes, i expect him to pick up the tab for our date, but i have never charged a trip fee to get in my car and meet him. trip charges are for plumbers and air conditioning people lol What the hell! You told me you wouldn't have lunch with me unless I shelled out for a plane ticket to Florida!!!! [sm=anger.gif]

Kittenluv954 -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 3:41:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven quote: ORIGINAL: Kittenluv954 i have never asked a man to pay me to show up for a date. any amount, ever. yes, i expect him to pick up the tab for our date, but i have never charged a trip fee to get in my car and meet him. trip charges are for plumbers and air conditioning people lol What the hell! You told me you wouldn't have lunch with me unless I shelled out for a plane ticket to Florida!!!! [sm=anger.gif] <3 DS! still, i would not charge you to pick you up at the airport! lol

DarkSteven -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 3:57:06 PM)
That's just a pick up line.

Gauge -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 4:38:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KevinCaDom I work hard and I make good money. I love what money buys for me. When I buy something nice I feel appreciated and I deserve it. I meet so many women that want me, and men, to buy them nice things. And I'm talking about women I don't know very well. For example, I saw a woman twice, strictly platonic, and she said she wants a boob job and was hoping to find a man to pay for it. I paid cash for my car and I love it. If someone paid it for me, I just wouldn't feel good about it. The car wouldn't have as much value to it then. I don't understand why some women want men to pay for all their things. Isn't what they get devalued and not appreciated? I was corresponding with a woman on this site and she wanted to meet me for lunch, but she would like $100. She isn't a Dominatrix. Don't women realize how difficult it is for people these days? Don't they care? Oh... I see... this is a backhanded fin-domme thread. I get it now. Clever disguise. Welcome to the forums.

TNDommeK -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 4:41:28 PM)
It slowly unfolded, but I was onto him from the beginning.

TieMeInKnottss -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 5:01:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Gauge quote: ORIGINAL: KevinCaDom I work hard and I make good money. I love what money buys for me. When I buy something nice I feel appreciated and I deserve it. I meet so many women that want me, and men, to buy them nice things. And I'm talking about women I don't know very well. For example, I saw a woman twice, strictly platonic, and she said she wants a boob job and was hoping to find a man to pay for it. I paid cash for my car and I love it. If someone paid it for me, I just wouldn't feel good about it. The car wouldn't have as much value to it then. I don't understand why some women want men to pay for all their things. Isn't what they get devalued and not appreciated? I was corresponding with a woman on this site and she wanted to meet me for lunch, but she would like $100. She isn't a Dominatrix. Don't women realize how difficult it is for people these days? Don't they care? Oh... I see... this is a backhanded fin-domme thread. I get it now. Clever disguise. Welcome to the forums. It might be a cleverly disguised thread about FinDomme but there IS a valid argument and discussion about the topic in the real world. As I said earlier..men have been willing participants in creating this phenom. If there is no buyer there will eventually be no sellers!! I am on assorted dating sites (fetish and vanilla) and you will constantly see (especially young) women who are seeking sugar daddies and you will see men (especially old ones) mentioning their willingness to "financially help young women or college students". There was one guy on here that was advertising as a hetero "FinDom"...based on his journal entries..I would say he had no female subs responding. As the stupid song says (or something close) "hate the game, not the players". As long as men are willing to trade money to date or have sex with women..it will continue. Men get older..they make more money. The ones that were smart but unattractive (uh..Silcone Valley death incident!!) as young men, got blown off by the hot, popular girls. The pendulum swings the other way as the aging process takes place. The unpopular nerd is now a "catch" because he has a high income. He now wants to buy what he was denied because, to him, that is a benefit of his success (same as now he wants to own a Mercedes). Hey! You want to end women demanding money from men? Start a campaign to make men STOP paying just so they can date outside their league!! Boy, I am riled up tonight!!!

KevinCaDom -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 5:12:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TieMeInKnottss As the stupid song says (or something close) "hate the game, not the players". As long as men are willing to trade money to date or have sex with women..it will continue. Men get older..they make more money. The ones that were smart but unattractive (uh..Silcone Valley death incident!!) as young men, got blown off by the hot, popular girls. The pendulum swings the other way as the aging process takes place. The unpopular nerd is now a "catch" because he has a high income. He now wants to buy what he was denied because, to him, that is a benefit of his success (same as now he wants to own a Mercedes). Hey! You want to end women demanding money from men? Start a campaign to make men STOP paying just so they can date outside their league!! Boy, I am riled up tonight!!! The problem with the SugarDaddy relationship is how do you tell if the young woman is really interested in you as a person, or it's strictly your money? Just because she needs financial help doesn't mean she won't love you. I have a friend who has a profile on a Filipina dating site. His mailbox is full of young beautiful women who wants to meet him. Probably most of them are interested in the green card. But just because she wants a green card doesn't mean she won't love you. How do you tell if she/he is authentically interested in you? He/she could just be a great salesperson selling themselves. And this doesn't have to involve money.

GoddessManko -> RE: I Don't Understand About Women & Money (2/8/2015 5:28:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven quote: ORIGINAL: Kittenluv954 i have never asked a man to pay me to show up for a date. any amount, ever. yes, i expect him to pick up the tab for our date, but i have never charged a trip fee to get in my car and meet him. trip charges are for plumbers and air conditioning people lol What the hell! You told me you wouldn't have lunch with me unless I shelled out for a plane ticket to Florida!!!! [sm=anger.gif] Hey now if you're heading this way I'm side saddling with Kitten, I have to warn you though, mischief would ensue. And nope, we're not shelling for your tix like the greedy harlots we are, muahahaha! [sm=evil.gif]

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