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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
Tell you what freedom...you show me a state where it days that a car owner must show a valid physical examination each year to keep their license to drive.

I have to have an eye test every year to keep my license.
My car also has to be tested every single year or it's illegal and I get prosecuted.
I am also obligated by law to notify the authorities of any condition that may give rise to my license being forfeit.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Must be nice to have such faith in government, what was wrong was in two cases the government lied, and just got the registration so they would be able to collect them.
In the other the mayor, who didn't care enough about his citizens to use school buses to evacuate them used looting as an excuse to grab guns of the people most likely to be victims.

But I repeat... if the people were legally allowed to have those guns - they would still have them wouldn't they?

Much as I hate our government and every politician lies (it's part of the territory), it would seem that at least ours don't deliberately obfuscate and act illegally to confiscate guns legally owned.

All I can say is, there must be more to those stories than was reported.
As you keep reminding everyone, the 2nd allows Americans the right to own and bear arms.
If they were legally owned, they'd still have them or there would have been a class action lawsuit filed PDQ.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I'm getting pretty weary of blanket sweeping statements from all sides of this "debate."

A little accuracy would be welcome.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
Tell you what freedom...you show me a state where it days that a car owner must show a valid physical examination each year to keep their license to drive.

I have to have an eye test every year to keep my license.
My car also has to be tested every single year or it's illegal and I get prosecuted.
I am also obligated by law to notify the authorities of any condition that may give rise to my license being forfeit.

Your car has to be tested for what? Here in the U.S., it varies from state to state but most states require an emissions test, depending where you're at. That's it. I'd be okay with taking any gun I use more than 200 days a year in to have the state test it and see that it fires safely.

Here in the U.S., you are also required to report these conditions. However, you are not required...as you suggested...to undergo any physical exam each year to keep your license.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Maybe beat this some more.

Make sure it's more deader.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

FW you obviously don't understand.
Despite how important their guns are Americans simply can not be bothered to submit to any intrusive examinations.....no matter that they are obviously needed(see death rate by firearms in USA) they are an infringement on the rights that some of our forefathers fought to defend .
That will not be tolerated,even if that means barricading themselves in their forts...er houses and fighting to the last breath.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

FW you obviously don't understand.
Despite how important their guns are Americans simply can not be bothered to submit to any intrusive examinations.....no matter that they are obviously needed(see death rate by firearms in USA) they are an infringement on the rights that some of our forefathers fought to defend .
That will not be tolerated,even if that means barricading themselves in their forts...er houses and fighting to the last breath.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

FW you obviously don't understand.
Despite how important their guns are Americans simply can not be bothered to submit to any intrusive examinations.....no matter that they are obviously needed(see death rate by firearms in USA) they are an infringement on the rights that some of our forefathers fought to defend .
That will not be tolerated,even if that means barricading themselves in their forts...er houses and fighting to the last breath.

You really don't get the concept of a right do you?

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

FW you obviously don't understand.
Despite how important their guns are Americans simply can not be bothered to submit to any intrusive examinations.....no matter that they are obviously needed(see death rate by firearms in USA) they are an infringement on the rights that some of our forefathers fought to defend .
That will not be tolerated,even if that means barricading themselves in their forts...er houses and fighting to the last breath.

You really don't get the concept of a right do you?

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I do,you don't get the concept that you are only a PART of a society....and that the other PARTS of that society have rights too.
The first and foremost right is the one to LIFE....which is exceedingly infringed upon by gun owners/holders who indiscriminately rob others of that first and foremost righ.


By the way anyone else notice that the idiot in Missoula (sp?) got himself a seventy year prison sentence...of course the German exchange student is still dead.
This was another "responsible" "law abiding" citizen at work,wasn't it ?


Still waiting for that example of my true goal of confiscation or whatever you imagine my thought to be
How long must I wait ?

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

FW you obviously don't understand.
Despite how important their guns are Americans simply can not be bothered to submit to any intrusive examinations.....no matter that they are obviously needed(see death rate by firearms in USA) they are an infringement on the rights that some of our forefathers fought to defend .
That will not be tolerated,even if that means barricading themselves in their forts...er houses and fighting to the last breath.

You really don't get the concept of a right do you?

Add that to the fact that he completely ignored the information I provided in an earlier post about deaths due to distracted driving...by drunk driving. Of course, those are caused by cars, cell phones, and alcohol and we all know that cell phone owners and car owners are responsible owners.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I do,you don't get the concept that you are only a PART of a society....and that the other PARTS of that society have rights too.
The first and foremost right is the one to LIFE....which is exceedingly infringed upon by gun owners/holders who indiscriminately rob others of that first and foremost righ.


By the way anyone else notice that the idiot in Missoula (sp?) got himself a seventy year prison sentence...of course the German exchange student is still dead.
This was another "responsible" "law abiding" citizen at work,wasn't it ?


Still waiting for that example of my true goal of confiscation or whatever you imagine my thought to be
How long must I wait ?

You also only speak for a portion of society, a shortsighted portion at that.
Even if I only speak for a portion of society it is one that wants to protect RIGHTS, not turn them into PRIVILEGES.
Right to life, that is the point to the right of self defense, and you want to take that away.
And since you are trying to skip to another subject no he wasn't responsible, but you can't ignore the fact that if the German hadn't been in someone else's garage he wouldn't be dead either, but I suppose going through other peoples garage in the middle of the night is responsible.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Must be nice to have such faith in government, what was wrong was in two cases the government lied, and just got the registration so they would be able to collect them.
In the other the mayor, who didn't care enough about his citizens to use school buses to evacuate them used looting as an excuse to grab guns of the people most likely to be victims.

But I repeat... if the people were legally allowed to have those guns - they would still have them wouldn't they?

Much as I hate our government and every politician lies (it's part of the territory), it would seem that at least ours don't deliberately obfuscate and act illegally to confiscate guns legally owned.

All I can say is, there must be more to those stories than was reported.
As you keep reminding everyone, the 2nd allows Americans the right to own and bear arms.
If they were legally owned, they'd still have them or there would have been a class action lawsuit filed PDQ.

No, there was no legal justification for taking them.
And my dear know nothing friend, they are in court, problem is there are too many cases against Nagel , the moron mayor of NO and the real cause of things getting screwed up in Katrina.
All you are saying is they took them because they had a good reason and they had a good reason because they took them.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

FW you obviously don't understand.
Despite how important their guns are Americans simply can not be bothered to submit to any intrusive examinations.....no matter that they are obviously needed(see death rate by firearms in USA) they are an infringement on the rights that some of our forefathers fought to defend .
That will not be tolerated,even if that means barricading themselves in their forts...er houses and fighting to the last breath.

Actually, I do understand.
And that's the shame of it and what makes the whole bag of shit so laughable.

It's akin to what's worse - the disease or the cure!
Almost every other country took the cure and we're still here to tell the tale.
Americans refuse to do so because it might just infringe their personal rights!
Oh fuck me! What a terrible thought!!! The medicine might help me stay alive.

Pahh!! What utter paranoid lunacy.

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incompetent American police

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incompetent American police

are you telling us that the cops who you back to the hilt pretty much every time there is a thread about a cop killing someone are incompetent?

I seem to recall you blaming the dead people nearly 100% of the time, saying it was there own actions that caused their death.

Now suddenly, when it suits you, cops are incompetent. That puts a funny old spin on a lot of your old posts doesn't it?