BamaD
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....It isn't about guns or gun control.
Sure, it is about a bully.
But the essence is, he shot them.... dead.
The fact that even if the guy had called the cops, they couldn't respond fast enough to have stopped him shooting them.
It is everything to do with guns and gun control - or lack of.
You clearly have not done your research.
He pulled a gun on someone weeks ago, even or incompetent American police could have gotten there in time. And that is the sort of thing that has an adverse affect on your ability to own and carry, even in a "gun crazy' country like this.
I quite agree.
But the whole point of this debate is the very simple fact that despite his previous actions, and his apparently known history, nobody sought to look into his mindset and do something before he shot these people??
Plus the fact that by allowing such individuals to even own a gun, much less allow him to carry it in public, begs the whole bucket of firearms control does it not?
But... as has been demonstrated, in this case and many others, he was considered normal and sane enough not to take away his firearms until after he snapped and killed someone.
It clearly points to a lack of gun control and severe lack of enforcement of the laws you already have in place.
So, how do you prevent this sort of thing happening in the future?
There are several measures that could be taken - none of which would appeal to the likes of you.
1) Restrict the ownership of arms to the general public.
Who the fuck actually needs an arsenal big enough to equip a small army?
2) Make everyone take a regular (annual?) health screening to qualify keeping their guns.
3) Stop people being able to carry in public - everyone except law enforcement.
4) make sure every damned gun in existence is catalogued, registered, and valid license held by its owner.
Decent law abiding citizens should have no fear of their guns being registered.
5) Go the whole hog and actually ban personal firearms.
Shit, even we haven't gone that far yet!!
Yanno, we are also, via our constitution, able to keep and bear arms just like you.
However, the main difference is, our laws stop us from carrying in public (#3 above).
Other than the fact that the majority of us don't have the paranoia of American gun owners and don't feel the need for a gun, we aren't much different to you lot over the pond (except #3).
And yet, we don't have those same issues that the US is suffering from all the time.
The same is also true of Canada, Australia, most of Europe and several other civilized countries.
You only have to look at the stats to see that something is very awry with the way the US has its gun laws.
All it would have taken was one phone call to the cops to stop this.'
It was known that he shouldn't be carrying but nobody told the authorities, that is the problem.
Legitimate owners shouldn't fear registration, I guess you missed the post about NO, CA, and NY all telling people that and then using the registration to confiscate firearms.
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