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This is no longer a scientific debate. It is scientific fact. The greatest fear of most climate scientists is continued complacency that leads to a series of natural climatic feedbacks — like the melting of the methane-rich permafrost of Arctic Canada.

Artificial snow-making now helps to cover 88 percent of American ski resorts, and has become the stopgap measure to defend against the early effects of climate change. Snow-making requires a tremendous amount of electricity and water, though, so it’s unlikely that snow guns will be our savior...

With several dry winters back to back, the ski industry is waking up. Last spring, 108 ski resorts, along with 40 major companies, signed the Climate Declaration, urging federal policy makers to take action on climate change. A few weeks later, President Obama announced his Climate Action Plan, stating, “Mountain communities worry about what smaller snowpacks will mean for tourism — and then, families at the bottom of the mountains wonder what it will mean for their drinking water.”

...I remember watching my first Winter Olympics in 1980. We were on a family ski trip at Copper Mountain in Colorado, where my brother and I skied the first powder run of our lives. It was on a gentle slope just off one of the main trails. We wiggled down the hill in chaotic rapture then skied the run again and again. The snow was soft and the turns effortless. You don’t have to be a skier to feel nostalgia for those whitewashed days — or to see the writing on the wall.

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The first problem is the lack of knowledge on many of science itself.

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The first problem is the lack of knowledge on many of science itself.

The problem is, over a hundred million people can just look out their window and see the big lie for what it is

Naht again! Another massive blizzard buries Boston

Icy storm paralyzes central U.S., pummels nation's capital

Kentucky declares state of emergency

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A prediction...

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This is no longer a scientific debate. It is scientific fact. The greatest fear of most climate scientists is continued complacency that leads to a series of natural climatic feedbacks — like the melting of the methane-rich permafrost of Arctic Canada.

Artificial snow-making now helps to cover 88 percent of American ski resorts, and has become the stopgap measure to defend against the early effects of climate change. Snow-making requires a tremendous amount of electricity and water, though, so it’s unlikely that snow guns will be our savior...

With several dry winters back to back, the ski industry is waking up. Last spring, 108 ski resorts, along with 40 major companies, signed the Climate Declaration, urging federal policy makers to take action on climate change. A few weeks later, President Obama announced his Climate Action Plan, stating, “Mountain communities worry about what smaller snowpacks will mean for tourism — and then, families at the bottom of the mountains wonder what it will mean for their drinking water.”

...I remember watching my first Winter Olympics in 1980. We were on a family ski trip at Copper Mountain in Colorado, where my brother and I skied the first powder run of our lives. It was on a gentle slope just off one of the main trails. We wiggled down the hill in chaotic rapture then skied the run again and again. The snow was soft and the turns effortless. You don’t have to be a skier to feel nostalgia for those whitewashed days — or to see the writing on the wall.

And there you have it - the writing is on the wall.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


A prediction...

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This is no longer a scientific debate. It is scientific fact. The greatest fear of most climate scientists is continued complacency that leads to a series of natural climatic feedbacks — like the melting of the methane-rich permafrost of Arctic Canada.

Artificial snow-making now helps to cover 88 percent of American ski resorts, and has become the stopgap measure to defend against the early effects of climate change. Snow-making requires a tremendous amount of electricity and water, though, so it’s unlikely that snow guns will be our savior...

With several dry winters back to back, the ski industry is waking up. Last spring, 108 ski resorts, along with 40 major companies, signed the Climate Declaration, urging federal policy makers to take action on climate change. A few weeks later, President Obama announced his Climate Action Plan, stating, “Mountain communities worry about what smaller snowpacks will mean for tourism — and then, families at the bottom of the mountains wonder what it will mean for their drinking water.”

...I remember watching my first Winter Olympics in 1980. We were on a family ski trip at Copper Mountain in Colorado, where my brother and I skied the first powder run of our lives. It was on a gentle slope just off one of the main trails. We wiggled down the hill in chaotic rapture then skied the run again and again. The snow was soft and the turns effortless. You don’t have to be a skier to feel nostalgia for those whitewashed days — or to see the writing on the wall.

And there you have it - the writing is on the wall.

The author seems to be saying the '80 Winter Olympics were in Colorado?

The ones I was at (I won the trip as a result of getting the most new customers on my paper route) were in Lake Placid, NY.



Michael

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: joether
The first problem is the lack of knowledge on many of science itself.

The problem is, over a hundred million people can just look out their window and see the big lie for what it is

Naht again! Another massive blizzard buries Boston

Icy storm paralyzes central U.S., pummels nation's capital

Kentucky declares state of emergency

And that would be a 100 million people (if that number is even remotely accurate), that are not understanding the knowledge known so far. 2014 its reported fairly recently in the news, was 0.7 F degrees above the hottest year on record (over 136 years) in 2003. Did you feel it? Probably not.

In Boston, there has been more snow fall in this month than in any other recorded year. Both concepts are of people taking measurements and recording them for later study. Information that is complied with many other types of information gathered in the same time frame. Then to look at this information in the short term an ask "what does it mean if anything?" And to take this short term information with the information gathered over a long term amount of information an ask "Does this change things?".

One of the observations within climate change is more freakish and unusual weather activity. For the past decade, winters in my area of Massachusetts have been mild. What snow we have gotten, has not remained for very long. This would be the first year in a long while in which not only has the temperature remained below freezing for three weeks straight, but snow storms have hit frequently. If things hold up correctly, we'll have the forth weekend in a row with snow storms. I'm not a climate scientist; but by observations of this winter compared to the last decade (previous ten years) is really odd and unusual for the area.

I have not had to shovel over my head since the '90s. Past few years, its usually just two or three feet and melts away in a few days. What your showing me in those three articles is: You dont know what Climate Change, from a scientific perspective, actually is define. I'm not saying this to be mean or hateful to you. I'm asking you to shelf the politics and examine the science objectively.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: joether
The first problem is the lack of knowledge on many of science itself.

The problem is, over a hundred million people can just look out their window and see the big lie for what it is

Naht again! Another massive blizzard buries Boston

Icy storm paralyzes central U.S., pummels nation's capital

Kentucky declares state of emergency

And that would be a 100 million people (if that number is even remotely accurate), that are not understanding the knowledge known so far. 2014 its reported fairly recently in the news, was 0.7 F degrees above the hottest year on record (over 136 years) in 2003. Did you feel it? Probably not.

In Boston, there has been more snow fall in this month than in any other recorded year. Both concepts are of people taking measurements and recording them for later study. Information that is complied with many other types of information gathered in the same time frame. Then to look at this information in the short term an ask "what does it mean if anything?" And to take this short term information with the information gathered over a long term amount of information an ask "Does this change things?".

One of the observations within climate change is more freakish and unusual weather activity. For the past decade, winters in my area of Massachusetts have been mild. What snow we have gotten, has not remained for very long. This would be the first year in a long while in which not only has the temperature remained below freezing for three weeks straight, but snow storms have hit frequently. If things hold up correctly, we'll have the forth weekend in a row with snow storms. I'm not a climate scientist; but by observations of this winter compared to the last decade (previous ten years) is really odd and unusual for the area.

I have not had to shovel over my head since the '90s. Past few years, its usually just two or three feet and melts away in a few days. What your showing me in those three articles is: You dont know what Climate Change, from a scientific perspective, actually is define. I'm not saying this to be mean or hateful to you. I'm asking you to shelf the politics and examine the science objectively.

Sure

Because of global warming our kids wont know snow at all

Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past

CNN: Where have all the hurricanes gone?

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All you needed to do was to post this link
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/09/23/the_left_relentlessly_pushes_climate_hoax_in_all_out_assault_on_capitalism
for the proof of what RW say must be the truth


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RUSH: This is really unreal. They just don't stop. They just keep coming at us full speed ahead. Obama, as we speak, is addressing the United Nations on something that is not happening -- climate change -- and he is announcing all of his support for new regulations on limiting emissions of greenhouse gases. It's an upside down world.

Let me go through a little exercise in logic, of which we are in sad short supply. Okay? A person predicts global warming every year for 20 years, man-made global warming due to one thing: The predicted increased levels of CO2 in the atmosphere. I should precede this by pointing out that... I know for you true believers, you're not gonna believe this. But there is no hard evidence of global warming, period, man-made or otherwise.

The only basis for even talking about this is the predictions spewed out by computer models. The only quote/unquote "evidence" of global warming is what models are predicting the climate and the weather will be in the next 50 to 100 years. Now, what those models spit out is only as good as the data that's put in, and it's an absolute joke. In terms of science, it's a total joke. There is no warming, global or otherwise!

There never has been.

They're not predicting global warming based on what's happened in the past; they're basing it on what their computer predictions say, and nothing more. The agent that is causing this (that isn't happening) is CO2, carbon dioxide, created by man in his smokestacks and his SUVs and his factories and his cars and his exhalations in breathing, 'cause what we exhale is CO2.

So just our existence is destroying the climate.

Okay, so that's the umbrella under which the following logic is made: CO2 is it. CO2 and the computer models. So a person predicts global warming every year for 20 years due to increased levels of CO2 in the atmosphere -- and, get this, for each of those 20 years there is an increase in CO2 in the atmosphere. For 20 consecutive years, CO2 levels jump dramatically every year.

However, during those same 20 years, there is no actual warming.

There is no increase in global temperature.

For 20 years!

Even though all that CO2 has been spewed and belched into the atmosphere, there isn't any warming. Therefore, the person, people, whatever, predicting global warming for any reason have been wrong for 20 consecutive years. Every year for 20 years the supporters of this theory have been wrong, as wrong as it's possible to be. That means that the person predicting global warming is not credible and does not deserve to be listened to.

Because that person hasn't been right.

That person has been as wrong as that person could be for 20 years.

Therefore, the debate about global warming due to increased levels of CO2 -- in real terms -- is over. Except that it's not. Because as we speak, the president and the secretary of state are at the United Nations telling everybody of the threat of global warming because of CO2 emissions and how we, as a leading economic industrial nation, have got to cut back or else it's end times for our planet.

Yet it isn't.

There isn't any warming.

Virtually everything... I don't care how scientific they sound. I don't care. They're wrong. They've been as wrong as it's possible to be. But that doesn't matter. Do you know why? Because the global warming advocates "care," and those of us pointing out how they're wrong obviously don't care. In their view, we don't care. So it's not about fact.

It's a political issue, and they're gonna sell this lie like they've sold every other lie. You know David Brooks has a column in the New York Times. A lot of people are responding and tweeting about this, 'cause it's just over the top. It's asinine. One of the things: Brooks is lamenting that we as a society have lost our self-regard. We have lost our self-confidence. We've lost respect for ourselves.

We refuse to accept the realities, the joys of being governed by Big Government, caring government,and so forth. And then he said... This is one of the things people are tweeting. There hasn't been, he said, a major piece of legislation in God knows how long, and there doesn't look like there is any to come. Has he never heard of Obamacare? What the hell is Obamacare if it's not a major piece of legislation?

But beyond that, the supposed "conservative" columnist at the New York Times worried that there isn't any major legislation coming, and because of that we don't have any hope. The conservative columnist at the New York Times says there hasn't been a major piece of legislation in God knows how long, and there isn't any in sight? Uh, what was Obamacare? Major legislation?

These are the kinds of people, this is the kind of thinking that is leading this country right now, and it's why we are so challenged. John Kerry, who served Vietnam... I made this point yesterday, and it's in the news again today. John Kerry had a bunch of foreign leaders at the State Department to talk about ISIS and what our upcoming action is gonna be, and he actually told them that global warming is a bigger threat to the people of this country than even is ISIS.

He's back with the news media covering it today. This TheHill.com: "Secretary of State John Kerry," who served in Vietnam, "said the threats posed by climate change should be addressed with as much 'immediacy' as confronting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), and the Ebola outbreak. During a meeting with foreign ministers on Sunday, Kerry said global warming is creating 'climate refugees,'" kind of like Christians running for their lives from ISIS.

There are no "climate refugees," folks.

The LA Times. I don't know what happened out there, but the LA Times has a story today that just totally destroys the global warming advocacy. It's been repeated. Actually it comes from the journal, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. And this report from the journal. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, says that the warming trend on the Left Coast over the last 100 years was not caused by human activity, but rather by a change in wind.

Now, the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences is an approved, peer group, leftist bunch. The LA Times repeated this. I don't know how this got past their editors, 'cause this totally debunks a major spoke of the wheel of global warming. This cuts out one of the legs of a three-legged stool, to say that man-made global warming is not at all responsible for the warming trend the last century in the West.

It's wind.

"Using independent data from 1900 to 2012, researchers showed that the temperature change is 'primarily attributed to changes in atmospheric circulation.'" That would be wind, for those of you in Rio Linda. "This, they wrote, 'presents a significant reinterpretation of the region’s recent climate change origins.'

"'Surface winds and wind-driven ocean currents have large effects on temperatures in and around the northeast Pacific Ocean; they dominate the overall temperature variability and also account for a large fraction of the warming trend,' Jim Johnstone, lead author of the study, said in a statement." So it's not your SUV. It isn't your smokestack. It isn't your lightbulbs. It's not your stupid hair spray! It's not the fact that you don't recycle.

It's none of that.

It's the wind!

And I'm telling you, folks, I don't know anybody who claims to control it. They say that George Bush steered Hurricane Katrina to New Orleans, but I have never heard anybody claim that they have control over the wind, where it blows, and how strong, and where it comes from. Have you? (interruption) Okay. So we could conclude that even the radicals have not laid claim for man being responsible for the wind. Here comes the proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The evidence every day piles up.

Folks, I'm telling you, it is one of the most amazing sights to behold. There isn't any, there hasn't been any global warming, not man-made, there isn't any of any kind. The number one agent causing it has increased in volume exponentially, CO2, and there hasn't been any warming. And yet they're still pushing it. You've got to believe that this is all politics. It can only be politics keeping this alive. And it is a politics that intentionally insults the intelligence of people and preys on the stupid and the dumb and the weak, intentionally, in order to gain popular support.

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It just keeps getting curiouser and curiouser ...



Michael

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~FR

Okay people, tell that white stuff all over my yard that it isn't real and to GTFO of my yard.