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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/18/2015 3:59:13 PM   
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^^^^^I think I just fell in love..

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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/18/2015 4:03:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissKatya

It's not all trench-coats and glasses when it comes to Pro-Domination.



Well fuck... I was just about to call for a session... way to shoot that sale in the head.


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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/18/2015 4:04:39 PM   
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I need to know your marital status before I accept your affection.

Please check one of the following:

( ) married ( ) Single

Please also provide the required documentation. An acceptance/decline letter of your devotion will be sent in 1-3 days.

Thank you for your support,

MK-



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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/18/2015 4:08:26 PM   
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Ohhh Tyrant.... so ummmm... single or married? oh noz, documents. Do you have my documents?

I will have your answers shortly....

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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/18/2015 4:08:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant


quote:

ORIGINAL: MissKatya

It's not all trench-coats and glasses when it comes to Pro-Domination.



Well fuck... I was just about to call for a session... way to shoot that sale in the head.




Hey, I never said I was good at promoting.

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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/18/2015 4:11:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SinFix

Ohhh Tyrant.... so ummmm... single or married? oh noz, documents. Do you have my documents?

I will have your answers shortly....



[X] Owned by ExiledTyrant.

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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/18/2015 4:14:21 PM   
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And this right here is why he is my oh so amazing Tyrant.....

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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/18/2015 6:32:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissKatya

I've been glazing over this thread and the basic commentary that I am seeing from certain individuals is that:

1) Pro-Dommes are manipulative
2) Pro-Dommes are liars
3) Pro-Dommes do it only for money
4) Pro-Dommes are incapable of having a lifestyle of personal D/s relationship due to #3

While I cannot speak for the majority of the Pro-Domme community (they didn't approve my "spokesperson" application yet), I can speak for myself and the women who I personally know.

Before I make my comments, I just want to go on record to state that my comments are directed towards the latter portion of this thread and not the original post. I know not everyone agrees with Professional Domination....I'm cool with that. I just wanted to comment on that whole issue with Pro's and cheating.

First, I find it highly insulting when someone goes into that whole "Pro-Dommes only do it for money" because in a way, you are insinuating that the entire BDSM community is incapable of seeing past their proverbial hard-ons and making BDSM into an enjoyable, lifelong career. That taking something you love and is a part of you and turning it into a working career is wrong and impossible. People choose professions that they love every day-if someone is devoted to being a doctor or lawyer, does it make them any less of a doctor or lawyer if they charge a fee?

Also, there is a unrealistic concept that being a Pro-Domme is easy money. It's not. It really isn't. It's a lot of work and if we didn't love what we did, we wouldn't do it. A good indicator if a Domme is in it for just the money or it's a career-years of professional experience. Many who do it for the money usually drop out after a year or two because they figured out that it's not easy money. So that whole "doing it for the money" comment is getting real old now. Do people do it for money? Oh sure...but is every Pro-Domme like that? No.

A good portion of us are also lifestyle. I have/had personal relationships. They are in a different realm from my professional ones. If you and I were meeting at a munch, chances are, you would never know I was a Pro-Domme...and chances are, you would bash Pro-Dommes while complimenting me at the same time. I love when I get those "You're not one of those money Dommes, you are very serious about what you do" comments...love them!

Anyway, to answer the "cheating" debate. It's tomato/tomatoe.

Pro-Dommes offer the ability for men to live out their kink, whether they are single or married. It's not our responsibility to ask for marital status because it is assumed that the person who is approaching us is able to session with no strings attached. Do married men approach us? Of course. Do I know this right off the bat? Not always.

Since I am not having sex with these men, I do not see their desire to session with me as cheating. To be honest, I am more concerned if someone is a psychopath than if they are married. Also, 99% of the time, I have no idea if they are married or not. Usually this information comes out in idle conversation, once I get to know someone better.

But if we were to enforce a "single men only" policy, the conversation would go something like this;

Him: I would like to have a session with you (note that he approaches me and not the other way around)
Me: That's great-tell me your interests to see if we are a good match (**does required interview, etc**). Also, I need to know if you are married or single. Also, to prove that you are indeed single, I will need your full name, address, employment, and SSI so I can do a background check to make sure you aren't lying to me.

**crickets chirping**

See how odd this is? Think of it in vanilla terms-Do you go to a OB/GYN's or Proctologist's office and ask the doctor if they are single because your examination means that they are cheating on their spouse by looking at your Vag or diddling a finger up your bum? No? Ok because the same concept applies to Pro-Domination.

With that being said, yes, a decent amount (Not as much as you may believe though-I'm going to say 60/40) of who we session with are married or in a committed relationship. It doesn't mean that they don't love their spouses any less by seeing a Pro-Domme. It means that they love them so much seeing us is a healthy alternative to act out their kinks without disrupting their personal life. We meet, we play, we chat and we go onto our lives.

Out of those married subs, a small percentage of them keep it from their wives. Most of them have either tried to get their spouses involved in their kink and they either didn't like it or their spouses were once kinky with them and decided it's not their thing and are allowed them to see a Pro-Domme. And it's a lot more than you believe. And yes, I do talk to their spouses on occasion. It's not all trench-coats and glasses when it comes to Pro-Domination.

As for the manipulating portion of this thread....I just can't respond to it without getting angry. The only manipulating I am capable of doing is twisting a guy's dick into a balloon toy.

That's a CBT joke, by the way.






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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/18/2015 6:49:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant


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It strikes me that you are questioning the activity of others, and that the activity you are questioning is...questioning the activity of others. You might consider why you started this thread in the first place as an answer to your question.



When we have a slave vs sub thread everyone weighs in why they "self identify as X" and it always turns heated because how one identifies is personal to them and should not be judged by me (or anyone else). For the most part we "accept" how someone self identifies rather than tolerate it. It's easier to accept it because if you're not in a relationship with that person how can you really say one way or the other?

We are here to indulge in "iniquitous" behavior, and I find "iniquitous" an appropriate word because many have to remain very clandestine in WIITWD. What I find reprehensible is one facet of WIITWD is "shunned" for one reason or the other. It's simply about choices. There are a whole slew of things I choose to not participate in for one reason or the other, but it puts no burr under my saddle for you to do so.

There are many topics that are closed, forbidden, shunned on this site because of the legal implications of those topics, and unless/until pro-domme becomes forbidden on this site I fail to understand the campaign of condemnation. If a pro-domme is your kink, wooohooo, more power to you, if not, who the fuck cares?

That said, who are we to form the angry mobs of "you can't sit with us" over a legitimate and legal kink?


Why would it have to be one extreme or the other? I neither have to remain completely closed-mouthed, nor do I have to be part of an angry mob. I can question without frothing at the mouth about it. And it's specifically because much of this is clandestine that this would be the only place to question. I can't very well walk into Thanksgiving dinner and start questioning why a D/lg relationship isn't emotionally damaging, and I can't ask my mailman whether he thinks hypnotism should best be left out of the D/s dynamic. Here, we are, if not all knowledgeable, at least interested. Who better to have those conversations with?

I know we're not supposed to knock each others' kinks. And I imagine there's a fine and subjective line between insulting someone and discussing something. But I also think people are way, way, way too sensitive here about that. I dislike walking on eggshells and it's ironic that the place I have to do that most is here.


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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/18/2015 7:01:41 PM   
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Alrighty Kaliko, so where is your dog in the fight?

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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/18/2015 7:37:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SinFix

^^^^^I think I just fell in love..



Me too

Like I keep saying, business is business. There is no "seeking out married men". I run a business that I happen to enjoy as well. If its a crime for me to operate that way in some eyes, well then they can spit shine their opinions, turn that som-bitch sideways and stick it up their roody poo candy asses. (burn compliments of the Rock) I am not selling sex, so there is no cheating. There is no sex involved, hell the wife can fuckin book a session too.


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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/18/2015 7:56:14 PM   
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^ Gah. Move closer!

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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/18/2015 8:00:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

I am not selling sex, so there is no cheating. There is no sex involved, hell the wife can fuckin book a session too.



This was what I was waiting to read on the thread. I do not doubt that some pro-dommes are pro in other areas as well, but most of the pro-domme profiles I have read say no sex will happen during pro sessions. If you regard any intimate times with another woman as cheating then your husband can have no female friends or coworkers and you have no trust.

Just sayin

ETA: I do want to say I'm Anti-Pickles

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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/18/2015 8:02:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: usememistress775


quote:

ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

I am not selling sex, so there is no cheating. There is no sex involved, hell the wife can fuckin book a session too.



This was what I was waiting to read on the thread. I do not doubt that some pro-dommes are pro in other areas as well, but most of the pro-domme profiles I have read say no sex will happen during pro sessions. If you regard any intimate times with another woman as cheating then your husband can have no female friends or coworkers and you have no trust.

Just sayin



I agree. To me, a pro domme session is akin to having a massage by someone of the opposite sex.

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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/18/2015 8:08:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: usememistress775


ETA: I do want to say I'm Anti-Pickles


What kind of pickles... exactly?

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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/18/2015 8:10:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: shiftyw


quote:

ORIGINAL: usememistress775


quote:

ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

I am not selling sex, so there is no cheating. There is no sex involved, hell the wife can fuckin book a session too.



This was what I was waiting to read on the thread. I do not doubt that some pro-dommes are pro in other areas as well, but most of the pro-domme profiles I have read say no sex will happen during pro sessions. If you regard any intimate times with another woman as cheating then your husband can have no female friends or coworkers and you have no trust.

Just sayin



I agree. To me, a pro domme session is akin to having a massage by someone of the opposite sex.


Wait a minute... wait a minute... wait a minute... HEY!

Paying for a massage by a member of the opposite sex!?!?!?!? Paging Cheater McCheaterson, paging Cheater McCheaterson... come to the infidelity desk please.

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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/19/2015 1:06:09 AM   
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MissKatya said it all really.

I also think Kaliko is right when she suggests some of us are far too sensitive. As an ex pro Domme, I don't really care what anyone here thinks about me. If they want to call me a dirty little whore its inconsequential and it certainly won't spoil my day. Some pro Dommes that use sites like this are far too sensitive and although I'll repeat that MissKatyas post was probably the best 'pro Domme' post I've ever seen on this site in all the years I've used it, I think too many pro Dommes spend far too much time trying to justify to the hand why they do what they do.

Back to MissKatyas post regarding not taking married men. Perhaps I've been around on this site too long but I have seen a number of posts where pro Dommes clearly argue that they don't take on a client who is in a relationship. Its those posts that hugely irritate me because like MissKatya says, how can they possibly know?

This is a BDSM site and if we can't talk about pro Domming on here, where can we talk about it (online)?. Discussion is great but on this sort of subject we are still going to have people taking their own moral high ground. Its unlikely we will ever change their views and we have to accept that, just as we have to accept that some of our vanilla friends and acquaintances would think us sick sexual deviants if they knew what we got up to.

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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/19/2015 3:24:28 AM   
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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/19/2015 3:30:29 AM   
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Except that my point has been bastardized (gee? Here? On CC? Impossible!)

My point was: Being a "business woman" doesn't absolve immoral behavior.

In my view, ANYONE that helps a married (or otherwise committed) person to cheat on their partner is a scumbag. I don't care if they're making money doing it. That doesn't clear the books. The ACT ITSELF is a moral abomination (It's called "dishonesty" or "Subterfuge", if you like).

NO ONE gets a pass, in my book. Damn the bullshit artists that try to paint my position differently.



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RE: The Anti-Anything Crowd - 2/19/2015 3:43:43 AM   
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Its a debate DS don't take it personally.

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