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vincentML -> ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (2/28/2015 10:59:14 AM)

This is from the March issue of The Atlantic Magazine (newsstand edition p.19):

President Obama catches flak for his supposed underreaction to crises in the Middle East, Ukraine, and elsewhere. Instead of leading, the professorial president lectures the American people not to be so darned worried. “If you watch the nightly news, it feels like the world is falling apart,” he said last August. “I promise you things are much less dangerous now than they were 20 years ago, 25 years ago, or 30 years ago. This is not something comparable to the challenges we faced during the Cold War.” Blame social media, he tells us, for shoving so much upsetting stuff in our faces.

Naturally Obama’s pontifications draw protests. “I strongly disagree with the president's assertions last night that America is safer,” said Senator John McCain. “By no objective measurement is America safer.” Danger abounds! In 2012, General Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, pronounced the world “more dangerous than it has ever been.” That was before The Islamic State, or ISIS, took over swaths of Iraq. Senator Lindsey Graham has warned that failure to defeat ISIS “will open the gates of hell to spill out on the world.” Obama appears to have his doubts: a few months after Chuck Hagel, then the Defense Secretary, pronounced ISIS an imminent threat, not just to the United States but “to every stabilized country on Earth,” Obama sacked him.


Is Obama right, or is he clueless?

Are McCain and Graham right, or are they self-serving politicians?

Are you scared, booby? Are you worried about dangerous times? Are there geopolitical or technical monsters keeping you awake at night? Or are the MSM and the social media giant boogie men beasts feeding us a line of fright to serve their own ends?

Obama: What, me worry?

McCain & Graham: the sky is falling, the sky is falling?

Fuck em, take another toke on this good shit and keep on truckin’?




bounty44 -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (2/28/2015 12:06:45 PM)

just a quick note to say I think those are absolutely great questions...




DesideriScuri -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (2/28/2015 2:15:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: vincentML
This is from the March issue of The Atlantic Magazine (newsstand edition p.19):
President Obama catches flak for his supposed underreaction to crises in the Middle East, Ukraine, and elsewhere. Instead of leading, the professorial president lectures the American people not to be so darned worried. “If you watch the nightly news, it feels like the world is falling apart,” he said last August. “I promise you things are much less dangerous now than they were 20 years ago, 25 years ago, or 30 years ago. This is not something comparable to the challenges we faced during the Cold War.” Blame social media, he tells us, for shoving so much upsetting stuff in our faces.
Naturally Obama’s pontifications draw protests. “I strongly disagree with the president's assertions last night that America is safer,” said Senator John McCain. “By no objective measurement is America safer.” Danger abounds! In 2012, General Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, pronounced the world “more dangerous than it has ever been.” That was before The Islamic State, or ISIS, took over swaths of Iraq. Senator Lindsey Graham has warned that failure to defeat ISIS “will open the gates of hell to spill out on the world.” Obama appears to have his doubts: a few months after Chuck Hagel, then the Defense Secretary, pronounced ISIS an imminent threat, not just to the United States but “to every stabilized country on Earth,” Obama sacked him.

Is Obama right, or is he clueless?


I don't know that we're any more or less safe than during the Cold War. I'm not so sure our safety was as precarious back then. I don't think our safety is precarious now. I'm not sure we're any safer than we were 15 years ago, either. But, that depends on how you define "safe."

Is there less threat of terrorist attack? Maybe. Maybe not.
Is there any less threat of being invaded? No (but that has more to do with the threat not being all that high before, either).

I can't say President Obama is wrong, but it's still a possibility. I don't think he's clueless at all. I think he'd lie (as would pretty much any President) and tell us we're safer even if we weren't.

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Are McCain and Graham right, or are they self-serving politicians?


Can't they be both? They may be right. They may be wrong. They (and pretty much every politician) are self-serving.

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Are you scared, booby? Are you worried about dangerous times? Are there geopolitical or technical monsters keeping you awake at night? Or are the MSM and the social media giant boogie men beasts feeding us a line of fright to serve their own ends?
Obama: What, me worry?
McCain & Graham: the sky is falling, the sky is falling?
Fuck em, take another toke on this good shit and keep on truckin’?


The amount of information that is nearly immediately available to us can create situations where hysteria can spread like wildfire. If the MSM wants to push a particular angle, it can, and it will have a great impact on people.

It seems like more and more people are less concerned about real life situations, and more concerned with vacuous garbage. Look at the frenzy this past week caused by a dress. Two llamas got loose in a small AZ city, and the media went berserk, too.




DaNewAgeViking -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (2/28/2015 4:41:32 PM)

Obama talks sense and his detractors talk shit. Go figure.
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CreativeDominant -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (2/28/2015 4:53:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking

Obama talks sense and his detractors talk shit. Go figure.
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In what fantasyland?




vincentML -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (2/28/2015 8:52:00 PM)

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The amount of information that is nearly immediately available to us can create situations where hysteria can spread like wildfire. If the MSM wants to push a particular angle, it can, and it will have a great impact on people.

There is an online news site called The Daily Beast. I have the impression it is so named to convey the idea that news outlets must be fed enormous quantities of information, mostly useless and unrelated to our daily lives to satisfy an unrelenting hunger. This was true also in the yellow press hay days that lead us into war with Spain at the end of the 19th C. The very existence today of so many paper and electronic news and opinion sources creates the imperative. The beasts must be fed even if shit is irrelevant or invented. One of the strategies employed by the Bush/Cheney war criminals in 2003 was to co-opt the beast and let it ride along with the armoured vehicles north into the deserts of Iraq. The danger imo is that a mindless four headed beast (political/military/industrial/informational) will lead us repeatedly into needless conflicts. Who is ISIS for example and why should we give a fuck? We are nevertheless at war with them. How did that happen? What I am saying is that the threat to our safety is structural.

The ease with which we go to war is greased by the fact that we have an all volunteer army, so most of us have no skin in the game.

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Is there less threat of terrorist attack? Maybe. Maybe not.
Is there any less threat of being invaded? No (but that has more to do with the threat not being all that high before, either).

Well, we have suffered several disastrous attacks on the home land within the last 25 years: Oklahoma City, and twice at the Twin Trade towers. Those are still within our memory.

We were under serious danger of invasion early in WW2 when German submarines were active off our Atlantic coast and Japanese troops had invaded the Aleutian Islands. In the early 1960s, the Cuban missile crisis held out the potential for an attack.

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Can't they be both? They may be right. They may be wrong. They (and pretty much every politician) are self-serving.

Were there more than three votes against authorizing GW Bush's war on terrorism by any means?





joether -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (3/1/2015 12:34:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
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ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking
Obama talks sense and his detractors talk shit. Go figure.
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In what fantasyland?


Its called 'Reality'. Which subspace dimension are you from again?




joether -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (3/1/2015 1:07:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: vincentML
Is Obama right, or is he clueless?


The job of the President is never an easy one. Anyone that tells you otherwise is full of shit. This is the person that gets handled the toughest of situations were even a minor 'fuck up' can be REALLY bad. Every President's foreign policy has had its 'fuck ups'. So if we are being objective, that is one thing. If we are approaching this from a partisan angle, no amount of truth or evidence will come out from it.

The problem with ISIS, is that it represents an entity very different from those faced before. Most Americans have simply not studied that region of the world to understand the people and cultures in total flux with each other. It would be like taking twenty people from each state in America, placing them on an island with about 75% food and water of the whole population. Warring, culture clashes, and uneasy truces/treaties form. Backstabbing is all to common. Likewise you take away laws governing how a people are to behave, and the enforcement to keep people in line; and now you'll have a start of an understanding of that region.

Comparing President Obama to former President Bush is like watching two karate students from different schools of thought spar against each other. One just unloads with a 'flurry of attacks' while the other dodges, blocks, and waits for the one moment to strike. Who is the better fighter, has more to do with one's belief of the the two fighters, rather than the actual outcome.

Objectively speaking, both Presidents have had their successes and failures. ISIS is a whole different entity from Al Qaeda. Most people that can not be objective view the two groups as one and the same. Just as people outside the nation might view Mr. Obama and Mr. Bush as 'one and the same'. Weighing things is not measured by pounds on one scale, but by mere grams on hundreds of scales at once.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML
Are McCain and Graham right, or are they self-serving politicians?


Whem Mr. McCain was running for US President he behaved as this...creature...that was wholly unlike Mr. McCain's character. The reason was simple; he was playing up to conservative voters. Both in the GOP nomination and the general election. And I hated listening to the crap. On the night he was defeated on election day, he held a speech acknowledging Mr. Obama's win to the White House, In that speak, Mr. McCain behaved like the Mr. McCain I had come to know and like. I was like 'where was this guy on the campaign trial?" As time has passed, he has become less of a respectable person and more a creature that lives in the darkness. Hateful, angry, possessive, and back stabbing. That election lost really did many unpleasant things to the man's viewpoints and outward character. His views are more self-serving than 'good for the nation'.

Mr. Graham has been and always will be a 'self serving' asshole! That guy cares for nothing and nobody except for Mr. Graham. He wants everyone to think he's Francis Underwood. He really isn't.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML
Are you scared, booby? Are you worried about dangerous times? Are there geopolitical or technical monsters keeping you awake at night? Or are the MSM and the social media giant boogie men beasts feeding us a line of fright to serve their own ends?


"Good and Evil, never one without the other. And usually were you least expect it" -Excalibur-

Its important to obtain good and reliable information at all times. Knowing what is bullshit and propaganda from 'the real information' is also an important skill set to have. Most Americans do not have either of theses. And that can be very dangerous. That organizations prey upon the unsuspecting and knowledgeable Americans frequently is bad enough. Worst when those people believe the information as true and correct. When they meet people that have the best information that is truth and correct; the two groups clash. The first group claims the second group are just partisan hacks trying to hide 'the truth'. The second is angry the first were so easily manipulated and give a pile of shit. Classing is all to common. We see it here on these forums if you looking for some examples.

Whether I sleep soundly or none at all, has nothing to do with assholes on the other side of the planet. As more to do with my Depression 'attacking' me.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML
Obama: What, me worry?


A US President's ability to be a good person is not solely decided by who they are as an individual. I grant you, the individual does have quite a part in their 'character' as President. But its the people around that person. Their education, experience, maturity, and desires. If a President has surrounded himself with good advisers whom give him good advise, things will often act more smoothly.

When the President gives a speech, I understand how the man explains things. Like an educated adult. He will explain his primary thought(s) with follow up information and/or supporting evidence. I dont agree with some of his policies and views; but I understand the 'how' and 'why of his actions and words. The man has the best interests of the nation at heart.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML
McCain & Graham: the sky is falling, the sky is falling?


I think you asked this in the question above on these two individuals. They are both struggling to stay 'relavent' to the American people. This more to do with getting reelected than anything useful to the American people.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML
Fuck em, take another toke on this good shit and keep on truckin’?


Maybe I'm just sleepy, but could you ask the question in another manner?




DesideriScuri -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (3/1/2015 6:08:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: vincentML
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Is there less threat of terrorist attack? Maybe. Maybe not.
Is there any less threat of being invaded? No (but that has more to do with the threat not being all that high before, either).

Well, we have suffered several disastrous attacks on the home land within the last 25 years: Oklahoma City, and twice at the Twin Trade towers. Those are still within our memory.


Are we any safer from terror attacks now? I'm not sure we are any safer, though that has nothing to do with the President.

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We were under serious danger of invasion early in WW2 when German submarines were active off our Atlantic coast and Japanese troops had invaded the Aleutian Islands. In the early 1960s, the Cuban missile crisis held out the potential for an attack.


While those things are true, they didn't happen 20-30 years ago (which was the time frame President Obama gave).

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Can't they be both? They may be right. They may be wrong. They (and pretty much every politician) are self-serving.

Were there more than three votes against authorizing GW Bush's war on terrorism by any means?


Probably. One vote, however, doesn't make a politician not self-serving. If I walk into a synagogue, does that automatically make me a follower of Judaism?




MercTech -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (3/1/2015 7:05:54 AM)

If the population stays fixated on trouble outside the country they tend to ignore the subtle degradation of the home economy and body politic.




thishereboi -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (3/1/2015 7:38:46 AM)

Is Obama right, or is he clueless?

I think he really hopes he is but I fail to see the logic. The terrorists today have a better means of recruiting through the internet and they have better technology. I haven't seen any sign that they hate us any less now so how are we safer?


Are McCain and Graham right, or are they self-serving politicians?

I think they are going to far in the other direction.

I also think it is interesting that you ask if Obama is right or just clueless yet the other two, you ask if they are right or self-serving. Sounds like if Obama is wrong, it's just because he doesn't know any better but if McCain or Graham are wrong it's because they are self-serving. Interesting twist.

Are you scared, booby? Are you worried about dangerous times? Are there geopolitical or technical monsters keeping you awake at night? Or are the MSM and the social media giant boogie men beasts feeding us a line of fright to serve their own ends?

Nope, not even a little bit.




vincentML -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (3/1/2015 7:39:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MercTech

If the population stays fixated on trouble outside the country they tend to ignore the subtle degradation of the home economy and body politic.

Good point, Merc. But we are also so easily distracted by native events that seem to merit volumes of bandwidth and passionate editorializing but eventually fade into near forgotten trivia.




vincentML -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (3/1/2015 7:51:30 AM)

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I also think it is interesting that you ask if Obama is right or just clueless yet the other two, you ask if they are right or self-serving. Sounds like if Obama is wrong, it's just because he doesn't know any better but if McCain or Graham are wrong it's because they are self-serving. Interesting twist.

Very insightful! It does expose my bias. But my defense is that Americans have historically regarded their sitting president as a doofus to be mocked and made fun of and our Congressional pols as scheming, mooching scoundrels. Even the now revered Lincoln was mocked as a rube much like Ford and little Bush. So, yeah, my bias. But well within the established tradition.

However, again, very clever of you.




Zonie63 -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (3/1/2015 10:44:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

This is from the March issue of The Atlantic Magazine (newsstand edition p.19):

President Obama catches flak for his supposed underreaction to crises in the Middle East, Ukraine, and elsewhere. Instead of leading, the professorial president lectures the American people not to be so darned worried. “If you watch the nightly news, it feels like the world is falling apart,” he said last August. “I promise you things are much less dangerous now than they were 20 years ago, 25 years ago, or 30 years ago. This is not something comparable to the challenges we faced during the Cold War.” Blame social media, he tells us, for shoving so much upsetting stuff in our faces.

Naturally Obama’s pontifications draw protests. “I strongly disagree with the president's assertions last night that America is safer,” said Senator John McCain. “By no objective measurement is America safer.” Danger abounds! In 2012, General Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, pronounced the world “more dangerous than it has ever been.” That was before The Islamic State, or ISIS, took over swaths of Iraq. Senator Lindsey Graham has warned that failure to defeat ISIS “will open the gates of hell to spill out on the world.” Obama appears to have his doubts: a few months after Chuck Hagel, then the Defense Secretary, pronounced ISIS an imminent threat, not just to the United States but “to every stabilized country on Earth,” Obama sacked him.


Is Obama right, or is he clueless?

Are McCain and Graham right, or are they self-serving politicians?


I'm not sure who is right or whether America is any more or less safe than we were 20-30 years ago. I suppose much of it would depend on how one defines "safe."

One thing I've noticed is that the interventionists and warmongers of America seem to count on the fact that not very many Americans can read maps or know much about world geography. This way, they can easily manipulate people into thinking that there's some sort of "imminent threat" to American soil, when a simple look at any competent world map outlining the current geopolitical situation would quickly disprove any notions of any "imminent threat" from the Middle East or Ukraine.

If their concern is terrorism, then that's a domestic security issue. Taking military action in the Middle East would not do thing one to protect us from terrorists who could potentially already be on our soil. But concerns about internal security, questions of who might be a terrorist and who might become "radicalized" - those can lead to another political can of worms. History has shown that whenever the public is worked up into believing that there are "enemies among us," it does not usually go well.

The situation in Ukraine might be a bit more complicated in that it has the potential to become a threat to the United States - but only if the warmongers and interventionists want it to be such. Russia itself has generally been viewed as a potential "threat" to some degree or another - even long before they ever became communist. Other would-be world conquerors viewed Russia as a prize to be taken.

If McCain and Graham are really trying to drum up public opinion and suggest we get involved in a war with the Russians on their own soil, then they might consider brushing up on their history and take a look at what happened to the last guy who tried that. Being a self-serving politician is one thing, but crazed megalomania based on paranoid fear is a far more dangerous threat to a nation's well-being than anything else.

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Are you scared, booby? Are you worried about dangerous times? Are there geopolitical or technical monsters keeping you awake at night? Or are the MSM and the social media giant boogie men beasts feeding us a line of fright to serve their own ends?

Obama: What, me worry?

McCain & Graham: the sky is falling, the sky is falling?

Fuck em, take another toke on this good shit and keep on truckin’?


I'm not particularly scared of any imminent threat. The world outside my window seems rather peaceful at the moment, which is rather typical for a Sunday morning. Of course, there's the usual threat of street crime - along with a fair number of poor drivers who might be deemed a "threat" from a certain point of view, considering the number of auto accidents out there.

As for the times we're living in, I suppose I've gotten to the point in my life where I've been hearing about all these "threats" around the world, as well as growing up on a slew of post-apocalyptic and nuclear war movies...perhaps it doesn't faze me as much as it used to. Then there are those who are really big on Bible prophecy and see every crisis in the world as some sort of harbinger of doom and that we're heading towards Armageddon.

Of course, there are potential long-term concerns one might have about the overall future of America and the world as a whole, and if we look at those concerns rationally and try to prepare for them before they become "imminent threats," then that would be a wiser course of action.

Then there are potential environmental threats which may be a problem even if we solve all our geopolitical troubles and all nations and peoples come together as one big happy family embracing freedom, truth, justice and the American Way. So, even if our policy is successful in creating a peaceful and stable world (not that I'm saying that's their actual goal), we may still have other things to worry about.

For many of the problems in this world I may worry about, I think we'd be better equipped to handle them if we really could set aside our differences and work in common cause for the betterment of our species and planet. But human beings are too fucked up for that to ever come to pass.




vincentML -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (3/1/2015 2:08:19 PM)

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The problem with ISIS, is that it represents an entity very different from those faced before. Most Americans have simply not studied that region of the world to understand the people and cultures in total flux with each other.

True. As I have read ISIS has its roots in disgruntled Iraqi Sunni. But are they a real threat to us and why the hell are we fighting them?

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As time has passed, he has become less of a respectable person and more a creature that lives in the darkness. Hateful, angry, possessive, and back stabbing. That election lost really did many unpleasant things to the man's viewpoints and outward character. His views are more self-serving than 'good for the nation'.

Agree. What a downward slide. I can hear ol' John breathing heavily through his Darth Vader mask.

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Mr. Graham has been and always will be a 'self serving' asshole! That guy cares for nothing and nobody except for Mr. Graham. He wants everyone to think he's Francis Underwood. He really isn't.

He comes off as a bit a whiney prince, doesn't he?

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Its important to obtain good and reliable information at all times. Knowing what is bullshit and propaganda from 'the real information' is also an important skill set to have. Most Americans do not have either of theses.

Quite to the point. The most basic issue. American history is replete with false flags. Is that the term? Was the USS Maine really torpedoed? Were we really attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin? Pearl Harbor evidently, but WMDs?
And now ISIS? What?

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Maybe I'm just sleepy, but could you ask the question in another manner?


Good shit is marijuana and keep on truckin comes from the 70's and to me it means just keep on keeping on and don't let assholes bother you.





DesideriScuri -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (3/1/2015 4:29:35 PM)

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The problem with ISIS, is that it represents an entity very different from those faced before. Most Americans have simply not studied that region of the world to understand the people and cultures in total flux with each other.

True. As I have read ISIS has its roots in disgruntled Iraqi Sunni. But are they a real threat to us and why the hell are we fighting them?


Why?!? It's because... uh... um... er... [sm=dunno.gif]

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Its important to obtain good and reliable information at all times. Knowing what is bullshit and propaganda from 'the real information' is also an important skill set to have. Most Americans do not have either of theses.

Quite to the point. The most basic issue. American history is replete with false flags. Is that the term? Was the USS Maine really torpedoed? Were we really attacked in the Gulf of Tonkin? Pearl Harbor evidently, but WMDs?
And now ISIS? What?


ISIS is real, and not a false flag.

The problem with the ISIS meme, is that they are being construed as an imminent threat to US national security. How, is a rambling story of possibilities and improbabilities. But, it's being used to support US involvement in the situation. That there is no real imminent threat, nor is there any real possibility of a threat to our national security is meaningless.

President GW Bush went into Iraq, going after WMD's that weren't there, and as punishment for helping al Qaeda (which was also not found to be correct). He didn't do it strictly under the auspices of an imminent threat to US national security, though.

President Obama inserted the US military into Libya without there being any real imminent threat to US national security, too.

Based on those two situations, why wouldn't we go after ISIS? We can't rely on the lack of threat to US national security to prevent us from joining the fray. The last two Presidents already proved that doesn't matter.

I'm all for withdrawing our troops, and getting them further from harm's way than they are now. Some (or much) of the mess in the ME is due to our "intervention" in those nations. I'm all for having Israel's back when they're attacked, but, other than that, I'm all for ending the merry go round and leaving the rest of the ME alone to let them figure it out.




CreativeDominant -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (3/1/2015 11:08:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
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ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking
Obama talks sense and his detractors talk shit. Go figure.
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In what fantasyland?


Its called 'Reality'. Which subspace dimension are you from again?
"Obama had made a point of saying many times over the past six years that he was unable to take executive action on immigration."

We heard from Obama administration officials and even the President himself that terrorism has something to do with lack of opportunities and poverty. Obama said that "we have to address grievances terrorists exploit, including economic grievances."

He said, "when millions of people -- especially youth -- are impoverished and have no hope for the future, when corruption inflicts daily humiliations on people, when there are no outlets by which people can express their concerns, resentments fester. The risk of instability and extremism grow. Where young people have no education, they are more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and radical ideas..."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/opinion/bergen-terrorism-root-causes/

To a Washington Post reporter: “I never want to make myself 100% clear with you guys.” So much for being the “most transparent administration in history.”
http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/44330677825/the-5-dumbest-things-obama-said-today

“I can no more disown (Jeremiah Wright) than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.”

“The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person…”
http://rightwingnews.com/quotes/the-worst-of-barack-obama-in-quotes-87-quotes/




Sanity -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (3/2/2015 7:03:34 AM)


Scared? Afraid? One mustnt "fear" cockroaches (for example) to loathe them and exterminate them. Its more like proper hygiene

And Obamas community organizer approach to ISIS is bizarre, it is as if he has left this reality for a much friendlier funny farm reality

His grand speeches during his global apology tour right after he was first elected were supposed to make everyone love us, but now things are much worse than ever, most any place you look

Hope & Change Man has simply checked out.

On a similar note, I found this entertaining:

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Obama finally accepts his transparency award... behind closed doors

It’s as if the president were to thank environmentalists for an award by serving lunch with paper plates and plastic forks that weren’t recyclable: After a two-week delay, President Obama this week received an award from transparency and good-government advocates in a closed-door Oval Office meeting that wasn’t on his public schedule — a snub that’s angering the folks who met with him...







tweakabelle -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (3/2/2015 7:41:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


We heard from Obama administration officials and even the President himself that terrorism has something to do with lack of opportunities and poverty. Obama said that "we have to address grievances terrorists exploit, including economic grievances."

He said, "when millions of people -- especially youth -- are impoverished and have no hope for the future, when corruption inflicts daily humiliations on people, when there are no outlets by which people can express their concerns, resentments fester. The risk of instability and extremism grow. Where young people have no education, they are more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and radical ideas..."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/opinion/bergen-terrorism-root-causes/

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I am unable to discern why your are making some kind of issue about these quotes from Obama. While you don't specify why you find the quotes objectionable, the tone of your post makes it pretty clear that you do find them objectionable. Yet, these quotes seem to me to pretty close to common sense.

It's no secret that terrorism doesn't occur in a vacuum, that there are socio-political/material reasons (including, to mention just a few, foreign military occupation, lack of employment or economic prospects, poor education, failures of the local political system etc.) that underpin the appeal and growth of terrorism. Obama mentions a few of the possible causes of terrorism, but is making no attempt to list them all, there is no attempt at a definitive and thorough analysis. So I would appreciate it if you could outline for me your reasons for objecting/disagreeing with Obama's statements on this question




Zonie63 -> RE: ARE YOU SCARED, BOOBY? (3/2/2015 8:40:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Scared? Afraid? One mustnt "fear" cockroaches (for example) to loathe them and exterminate them. Its more like proper hygiene


So, the world is "more dangerous than it has ever been" and we're on the verge of "opening up the gates of hell to spill out on to the world" because of...cockroaches?

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And Obamas community organizer approach to ISIS is bizarre, it is as if he has left this reality for a much friendlier funny farm reality


I've noticed that you keep using the word "reality" as if you believe that your understanding and perception of "reality" is superior to that of everyone else. But if one's perception of "reality" keeps switching back and forth from "grave threat" to "a nest of cockroaches," then one might find reason to question such a perception of "reality."




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