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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/12/2015 7:04:43 PM   
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Classical mythology is just too much for some students at Columbia...

During the week spent on Ovid’s “Metamorphoses,” the class was instructed to read the myths of Persephone and Daphne, both of which include vivid depictions of rape and sexual assault. As a survivor of sexual assault, the student described being triggered while reading such detailed accounts of rape throughout the work. However, the student said her professor focused on the beauty of the language and the splendor of the imagery when lecturing on the text. As a result, the student completely disengaged from the class discussion as a means of self-preservation. She did not feel safe in the class. ~Columbia Spectator

The above is just one example of how the Literature Humanities core is full of "triggering and offensive" texts of "exclusion and oppression" that "transgress" student identities.

Luckily, the university's Multicultural Affairs Advisory Board is on the case.

K.


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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/12/2015 8:04:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


~ FR ~

Classical mythology is just too much for some students at Columbia...

During the week spent on Ovid’s “Metamorphoses,” the class was instructed to read the myths of Persephone and Daphne, both of which include vivid depictions of rape and sexual assault. As a survivor of sexual assault, the student described being triggered while reading such detailed accounts of rape throughout the work. However, the student said her professor focused on the beauty of the language and the splendor of the imagery when lecturing on the text. As a result, the student completely disengaged from the class discussion as a means of self-preservation. She did not feel safe in the class. ~Columbia Spectator

The above is just one example of how the Literature Humanities core is full of "triggering and offensive" texts of "exclusion and oppression" that "transgress" student identities.

Luckily, the university's Multicultural Affairs Advisory Board is on the case.

K.



First, my heart goes out to the rape survivor.

WTF, really. Go at it Multicultural Affairs Advisory Board. Someone has to hire women's studies majors.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/12/2015 8:20:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


~ FR ~

Classical mythology is just too much for some students at Columbia...

During the week spent on Ovid’s “Metamorphoses,” the class was instructed to read the myths of Persephone and Daphne, both of which include vivid depictions of rape and sexual assault. As a survivor of sexual assault, the student described being triggered while reading such detailed accounts of rape throughout the work. However, the student said her professor focused on the beauty of the language and the splendor of the imagery when lecturing on the text. As a result, the student completely disengaged from the class discussion as a means of self-preservation. She did not feel safe in the class. ~Columbia Spectator

The above is just one example of how the Literature Humanities core is full of "triggering and offensive" texts of "exclusion and oppression" that "transgress" student identities.

Luckily, the university's Multicultural Affairs Advisory Board is on the case.

K.



Sexual assault sucks. That being said, if you are going to have these kinds of reactions to reading material, perhaps you are not ready for college and need some more work with your therapist.

How could you have NOT known that there would be a rape involved?

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/12/2015 9:06:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


~ FR ~

Classical mythology is just too much for some students at Columbia...

During the week spent on Ovid’s “Metamorphoses,” the class was instructed to read the myths of Persephone and Daphne, both of which include vivid depictions of rape and sexual assault. As a survivor of sexual assault, the student described being triggered while reading such detailed accounts of rape throughout the work. However, the student said her professor focused on the beauty of the language and the splendor of the imagery when lecturing on the text. As a result, the student completely disengaged from the class discussion as a means of self-preservation. She did not feel safe in the class. ~Columbia Spectator

The above is just one example of how the Literature Humanities core is full of "triggering and offensive" texts of "exclusion and oppression" that "transgress" student identities.

Luckily, the university's Multicultural Affairs Advisory Board is on the case.

K.



Sexual assault sucks. That being said, if you are going to have these kinds of reactions to reading material, perhaps you are not ready for college and need some more work with your therapist.

How could you have NOT known that there would be a rape involved?


I dont know. Lucky seems to think mothers should read syllabi and govern that sort of thing.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/12/2015 9:46:55 PM   
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Sexual assault sucks. That being said, if you are going to have these kinds of reactions to reading material, perhaps you are not ready for college and need some more work with your therapist.

Also to be considered is the fact that there is no vivid and detailed depiction of rape and sexual assault in the myth. Here's the scene: Cupid (using the Latin names) shoots Dis with an arrow at the bidding of his mother Venus, who wants Dis to fall in love with Cere's daughter, Proserpine.

"And Ceres’s daughter too, Proserpine, will be a virgin if we allow it, since she hopes to be like them. But you, if you delight in our shared kingdom, can mate the goddess to her uncle." So Venus spoke: he undid his quiver, and at his mother’s bidding took an arrow, one from a thousand, and none was sharper, more certain, or better obeyed the bow. Then he bent the pliant tips against his knee, and with his barbed arrow struck Dis in the heart. ~Source

From that follows the rape of Proserpine (trigger warning):

While Proserpine was playing in this glade, and gathering violets or radiant lilies, while with girlish fondness she filled the folds of her gown, and her basket, trying to outdo her companions in her picking, Dis, almost in a moment, saw her, prized her, took her: so swift as this, is love. ~Source

Whew! Did everybody get through that okay?

K.


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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/13/2015 1:12:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee

Sexual assault sucks. That being said, if you are going to have these kinds of reactions to reading material, perhaps you are not ready for college and need some more work with your therapist.

Also to be considered is the fact that there is no vivid and detailed depiction of rape and sexual assault in the myth. Here's the scene: Cupid (using the Latin names) shoots Dis with an arrow at the bidding of his mother Venus, who wants Dis to fall in love with Cere's daughter, Proserpine.

"And Ceres’s daughter too, Proserpine, will be a virgin if we allow it, since she hopes to be like them. But you, if you delight in our shared kingdom, can mate the goddess to her uncle." So Venus spoke: he undid his quiver, and at his mother’s bidding took an arrow, one from a thousand, and none was sharper, more certain, or better obeyed the bow. Then he bent the pliant tips against his knee, and with his barbed arrow struck Dis in the heart. ~Source

From that follows the rape of Proserpine (trigger warning):

While Proserpine was playing in this glade, and gathering violets or radiant lilies, while with girlish fondness she filled the folds of her gown, and her basket, trying to outdo her companions in her picking, Dis, almost in a moment, saw her, prized her, took her: so swift as this, is love. ~Source

Whew! Did everybody get through that okay?

K.



I just assumed that it may have been some extra description by the professor or perhaps one of the other rapes in the story. That Jupiter had less morals than a cat when it came to that kind of thing.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/13/2015 6:18:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


~ FR ~

Classical mythology is just too much for some students at Columbia...

During the week spent on Ovid’s “Metamorphoses,” the class was instructed to read the myths of Persephone and Daphne, both of which include vivid depictions of rape and sexual assault. As a survivor of sexual assault, the student described being triggered while reading such detailed accounts of rape throughout the work. However, the student said her professor focused on the beauty of the language and the splendor of the imagery when lecturing on the text. As a result, the student completely disengaged from the class discussion as a means of self-preservation. She did not feel safe in the class. ~Columbia Spectator

The above is just one example of how the Literature Humanities core is full of "triggering and offensive" texts of "exclusion and oppression" that "transgress" student identities.

Luckily, the university's Multicultural Affairs Advisory Board is on the case.

K.



Reynolds commented today that even the Victorians could handle the classics. Heh.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/13/2015 8:40:07 AM   
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wonders why Ovids Metamorphoses wasnt quoted K...
That was the relevant mythology wanst it?
I) HAIDES ABDUCTS PERSEPHONE

Ovid, Metamorphoses 5. 462 ff (trans. Melville) (Roman epic C1st B.C. to C1st A.D.) :
"The land [of Sicily] quakes [as Typhoeus the Giant buried beneath it tries to escape] and even Rex Silentum (the king who rules the land of silence) [Haides] shudders lest the ground in gaping seams should open and the day stream down and terrify the trembling Umpire (Shades). Tyrannus [Haides] had left his dark domains to and fro, drawn in his chariot and sable steeds, inspected the foundations of the isle. His survey done, and no point found to fail, he put his fears aside; when, as he roamed, Erycina [Aphrodite], from her mountain throne, saw him and clasped her swift-winged son, and said : `Cupido [Eros], my child, my warrior, my power, take those sure shafts with which you conquer all, and shoot your speedy arrows to the heart of the great god to whom the last lot fell when the three realms were drawn. Your majesty subdues the gods of heaven [and sea] . . . Why should Tartara (Hell) lag behind? Why not there too extend your mother’s empire and your own? The third part of the world’s at stake, while we in heaven (so long-suffering!) are despised--my power grows less, and less the power of Amor [Eros]. Do you not see how Pallas [Athene] and Diana [Artemis], queen of the chase, have both deserted me? And Ceres’ daughter [Persephone], if we suffer it, will stay a virgin too--her hope’s the same. So for the sake of our joint sovereignty, if that can touch your pride, unite in love that goddess and her uncle [Haides].’
So she spoke. Then Cupido, guided by his mother, opened his quiver and of all his thousand arrows selected one, the sharpest and the surest, the arrow most obedient to the bow, and bent the pliant horn against his knee and shot the barbed shaft deep in Dis’ [Haides’] heart. Not far from Henna’s walls there is a lake, Pergus by name, its waters deep and still; it hears the music of the choiring swans as sweet as on Caystros’ gliding stream. Woods crown the waters, ringing every side, their leaves like awnings barring the sun’s beams. The boughs give cooling shade, the watered grass is gay with spangled flowers of every hue, and always it is spring. Here Proserpina [Persephone] was playing in a glade and picking flowers, pansies and lilies, with a child’s delight, filling her basket and her lap to gather more than the other girls, when, in a trice, Dis [Haides] saw her, loved her, carried her away--love leapt in such a hurry! Terrified, in tears, the goddess called her mother, called her comrades too, but oftenest her mother; and, as she’d torn the shoulder of her dress, the folds slipped down and out the flowers fell, and she, in innocent simplicity, grieved in her girlish heart for their loss too. Away the chariot sped; her captor urged each horse by name and shook the dark-dyed reins on mane and neck. On through deep lakes he drove, on through Palici’s sulphurous pools that boil in reeking chasms, on past Bacchiadae [Syracuse], where settlers once from Corinthus’ isthmus built between two harbours their great battlements.
A bay confined by narrow points of land lies between Arethusa Pisaea and Cyane. And there lived Cyane, the most renowned of all the Nymphae Sicelidae (of Sicily), who gave her pool its name. Out of her waters’ midst she rose waist-high and recognised the goddess. `Stop, stop!’ she cried, `You cannot take this girl to wife against Queen Ceres’ will! She ought to have been wooed, not whirled away. I too, if humble things may be compared with great, was loved; Anapus married me; but I was wooed and won, not, like this girl, frightened and forced.’ She held out her arms outstretched to bar his way. But Saturnius [Hades] restrained his wrath no longer. Urging on his steeds, his terrible steeds, and brandishing aloft his royal sceptre in his strong right arm, he hurled it to the bottom of the pool. The smitten earth opened a way to Hell and down the deep abyss the chariot plunged. But Cyane, heartbroken at the rape of Proserpine and at her pool’s outrage, in silence carried in her heart a wound beyond consoling, and in endless tears she wasted away. Into the pool--her pool and she but now its deity--she spread dissolved.

II) DEMETER SEARCHES FOR PERSEPHONE

"Ceres [Demeter] meanwhile in terror sought her child vainly in every land, o'er every sea. Never Aurora (the Dawn) rising with dewy hair, nor ever Hesperus (the Evening Star) saw her at rest. She lit pine-torches, one in either hand, at Aetna's fires, and through the frosty dark bore them unsleeping. When the friendly day had dimmed the stars, she sought her daughter still from sunrise until sunset hour by hour . . .
Through what far lands and seas the goddess roved were long to tell; the whole world failed her search. She turned again to Sicania (Sicily) and there, in wanderings that led her everywhere, she too reached Cyane; who would have told all, had she not been changed. She longed to tell but had no mouth, no tongue, nor any means of speaking. Even so she gave a clue, clear beyond doubt, and floating on her pool she showed the well-known sash which Persephone had chanced to drop there in the sacred spring.
How well the goddess knew it! Then at last she seemed to understand her child was stolen, and tore her ruffed hair and beat her breast. Where the girl was she knew not, but reproached the whole wide world--ungrateful, not deserving her gift of grain--and Trinacria (Sicily) in chief where she had found the traces of her loss. So there with angry hands she broke the ploughs that turned the soil and sent to death alike the farmer and his labouring ox, and bade the fields betray their trust, and spoilt the seeds . . .
Then that fair Nymphe Alpheias [Arethousa] . . . rose from her pool and brushed back from he brow her dripping hair, and said : `O thou, divine Mother, who through the world hast sought thy child . . . The land is innocent; against its will it opened for that rape. While beneath the earth I glided in my Stygian stream, I saw, myself with my own eyes, your Proserpina. Her looks were sad, and fear still in her eyes; and yet a queen, and yet of that dark land Empress, and yet with power and majesty the consort of the Tyrannus Infernus (Sovereign lord of Hell) [Haides].’ The mother heard in horror, thunderstruck it seemed and turned to stone.

III) THE RETURN OF PERSEPHONE

"Then as her shock so great gave way to grief as great, she soared borne in her chariot, to the sky’s bright realms and stood, with clouded face and hair let loose, indignant before Jove [Zeus] and said : `I come to plead for my own flesh and blood, yours too; and if the mother finds no favour, let at least the daughter move her father’s heart; love her not less because I gave her birth. Behold the daughter I have sought so long is found, if found is surer loss, or if but to know where she is finding her. Her theft I’ll bear if he’ll but bring her back; a thief, a kidnapper’s no proper husband for child of yours, even if she’s mine no more.’
And Juppiter [Zeus] replied : `The child is yours and mine, our common care and love, If we allow things proper names, here is no harm, no crime, but love and passion. Such a son-in-law, if you, Ma’am, but consent, will not disgrace us. To be Jove’s brother, what a splendid thing!-- if that were all! What then, when that’s not all, when he yields place to me only because the lots so fell? But if your heart’s so set to part them, Proserpina shall reach the sky again on one condition, that in Hell her lips have touched no food; such is the rule forestablished by the three Parcae [the Moirai].’
So Jove [Zeus] replied; but Ceres was resolved to win her daughter back. Not so fate permitted, for the girl had broken her fast and wandering, childlike, through the orchard trees from a low branch had picked a pomegranate and peeled the yellow rind and found the seeds and nibbled seven. The only one who saw was Orphne's son, Ascalaphus, whom she, no the least famous of the Nymphae Avernales, bore once to Acheron in her dusky bower. He saw and told, in spite, and by his tale stole her return away. The Regina Erebi (Queen of Hell) [Persephone] groaned in distress and changed the tale-bearer into a bird. She threw into his face water from Phlegethon, and lo! a beak and feathers and enormous eyes! Reshaped, he wears great tawny wings, his head swells huge . . . a loathsome bird, ill omen for mankind, a skulking screech-owl, sorrow's harbinger.
That tell-tale tongue of his no doubt deserved the punishment. But the Acheloides [Seirenes], why should it be that they have feathers now and feet of birds, though still a girl’s fair face, the sweet-voiced Sirenes? Was it not because, when Proserpine [Persephone] was picking those spring flowers, they were her comrades there, and, when in vain they’d sought for her through all the lands, they prayed for wings to carry them across the waves, so that the seas should know their search, and found the gods gracious, and then suddenly saw golden plumage clothing all their limbs? Yet to reserve that dower of glorious song, their melodies’ enchantment, they retained their fair girls’ features and their human voice. Then Juppiter [Zeus], to hold the balance fair between his brother and his sister in her grief, portioned the rolling years in equal parts. Now Proserpine, of two empires alike great deity, spends with her mother half the year’s twelve months and with her husband half. Straightway her heart and features are transformed; that face which even Dis [Haides] must have found unhappy beams with joy, as when the sun, long lost and hidden in the clouds and rain, rides forth in triumph from the clouds again. So Ceres [Demeter] had regained her Proserpine."

http://www.theoi.com/Khthonios/HaidesPersephone2.html
Not AS Klines version

But....making decisions and deriding what a raped womans triggers should or shouldnt be...is vile.


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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/13/2015 8:48:23 AM   
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wonders why Ovids Metamorphoses wasnt quoted K...
That was the relevant mythology wanst it?



http://www.theoi.com/Khthonios/HaidesPersephone2.html
Not AS Klines version

But....making decisions and deriding what a raped womans triggers should or shouldnt be...is vile.



But an old guy college professor making all the kids get naked together in order to graduate from college is enlightening and uplifting? It appears, that you wait around until you can find something to call vile, then no matter which side of the argument it's on, you go there.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/13/2015 9:01:48 AM   
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nudity is not rape
not in any way shape or form.

But again, you arent reading what I said, you are making it all up in your sad little goading attempts. But you you are lying, "enlightening and uplifting" is NOwhere in my statements anywhere and not even close to being truthful.



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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/13/2015 9:16:31 AM   
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nudity is not rape
not in any way shape or form.

But again, you arent reading what I said, you are making it all up in your sad little goading attempts. But you you are lying, "enlightening and uplifting" is NOwhere in my statements anywhere and not even close to being truthful.




In the campus rape industry, in order to get to the levels of rape that are claimed, they have to define rape differently. For instance, and I believe you can source Christina Hoff Soomers for this, they'll ask a woman if she has ever been looked at by a man in a way that made her feel uncomfortable. If she answers yes, she is considered to have been raped whether or not she believes she was.

The point is that the whole wounded dove that is oppression of the patriarchy is tiresome. Everything you say harkens to some oppression somewhere. The oppressions is always inferred. I comment on that. You don't contribute unless you can make some comment that something, in your opinion, is vile. It's a constant theme. The one who is not seeing here is you not seeing your constant theme. I totally ignore you when you contribute to the conversation. But when you lecture, cajole and drip bile on all men not yourself, I'll make an effort to point it out. Hate speech should never just be overlooked and for some reason you seem to feel as if you get a pass on that sort of thing because you've been oppressed.


Oh and nudity is not rape is an absurd comment. If the professor forces nudity in order for the students to get a degree, it's a forced sexual contact. Certainly within the confines of what the campus rape industry considers rape.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/13/2015 10:42:00 AM   
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Isnt the mere existence of the class itself at least discriminatory, or even racist hate speech, against Islamists...?



If some jihadists came in and shot the class up, who would be to blame.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/13/2015 11:55:31 AM   
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nudity is not rape
not in any way shape or form.

But again, you arent reading what I said, you are making it all up in your sad little goading attempts. But you you are lying, "enlightening and uplifting" is NOwhere in my statements anywhere and not even close to being truthful.




And Ovid is NOT "unsafe."

I would hate to see the girl's reaction to the Brother's Grimm.

Again, if you cannot handle the reading material without the vapors, then college is not the place for you.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/13/2015 12:12:50 PM   
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http://www.theoi.com/Khthonios/HaidesPersephone2.html
Not AS Klines version

But....making decisions and deriding what a raped womans triggers should or shouldnt be...is vile.

Get a grip. It's a myth. Proserpine is a goddess, carried off by her divine lover. Not exactly a template for the average rape experience. And, there is no depiction of rape. She resists his advances. She fasts. But finally she succumbs and eats the fruit of the garden, forbidden under penalty of separation from paradise, and thereby loses all hope of returning home. But to her great joy, Jupiter allows Proserpine to spend part of the year with her mother and part of year with her divine lover, sparing her the loss of being separated from either.

Kline: The aspect of her face and mind alters in a moment. Now the goddess’s looks are glad, that even Dis could see were sad, a moment ago. Just as the sun, hidden, before, by clouds of rain, wins through and leaves the clouds.

Melville: Straightway her heart and features are transformed; that face which even Dis [Haides] must have found unhappy beams with joy, as when the sun, long lost and hidden in the clouds and rain, rides forth in triumph from the clouds again.

There is no material difference in the story between Kline's translation and the one you offered.

Kline: if only we are willing to give things their right names, the thing is not an insult in itself: the truth is it is love.

Melville: If we allow things proper names, here is no harm, no crime, but love and passion.

I would suggest for your consideration that since there are no "vivid" and "detailed" depictions of "rape and sexual abuse" here, there can't be a student who was "triggered" by them. All we have is some people whose brains have been pickled in Critical Theory trying to invent an outrage.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/13/2015 2:00:51 PM   
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But....making decisions and deriding what a raped womans triggers should or shouldnt be...is vile.

Let's set aside your own scorn for others and focus on your concern for the victims of rape and apply them in a college setting.

How do we accurately determine just what are triggers for a rape victim? We already know some of the generalities: smells for some, not for others. Certain types of music for some, not for others. Sounds for some, not for others. Touch by anyone for some, touch by men for some, certain types of touch for some...but not for others. For some, it can be the tone of someone's voice, but it is not for others. The sight of certain objects...belt, leather gloves, knife, gun...can trigger a response in some but not in others. The depiction of the act...overt or subtle...can do it for some but not for others.
Apparently, the description...graphic or poetic...can do it for some but not for others. These are general triggers...perhaps a study would uncover more as well as specific triggers. Of course, one could argue that involving these women in a study could itself be triggering but hey...If it results in furthering our knowledge of what affects these victims, it might be worth it.

But for a moment, lets imagine that you're an administrator of CU Boulder, with an enrollment of approximately 30000 students. Almost half...47% ...are female. So,.15000 female students. Let's say half of these female students...7500...have been raped. Not assaulted, not harassed, but raped. This makes up almost a fourth of the students. But that also means that you have 22500 students who have not been raped. 3/4 of the student population. Now then, just what do you do to ensure that those students...22,500 of them...get the full educational experience they deserve AND ARE PAYING FOR, knowing that 15000 of them are men? Men whose tone of voice, whose hairstyle, whose touch, whose smell, may trigger something in these women? What do you do about the Literature studies course? The Cultural studies course?

Do you change the whole educational institution to suit these young adults? And...Let's face it...not all these victims handle the trauma of what happened to them in the same way. Do you provide services uniquely tailored to each individual or do you provide general services with the courage to set some of them down and tell them they are not ready for a university setting yet?

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/13/2015 2:10:56 PM   
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so substitute murderer and run that again.



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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/13/2015 3:32:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

so substitute murderer and run that again.

Well for starters, it would be difficult to determine what might be a trigger for a murder victim.

K.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/13/2015 3:54:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

so substitute murderer and run that again.

Well for starters, it would be difficult to determine what might be a trigger for a murder victim.

K.



Brain or flesh eating, since they would be a zombie.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/13/2015 5:13:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

so substitute murderer and run that again.




Besides, we weren't discussing rappers, rather rapees.

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RE: News from the Society for the Perpetually Offended - 5/13/2015 5:30:04 PM   
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/05/13/the_return_of_obamas_hoax-spreading_bitter_half_126568.html


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