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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 9:39:32 AM   
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Rhino much ?


The boycotts and other threats meant that the gay dudes had to backpedal. Sad really.

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 9:45:36 AM   
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Kennedy's not a reliable defender of civil liberties. Just last week, he sided with Alito and Thomas on extending the time on a traffic stop for a dog sniff/fishing expedition.


No they did not.

The dissent was about where the line for "unreasonable" is. And a couple other things.

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 9:53:56 AM   
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Rhino much ?


The boycotts and other threats meant that the gay dudes had to backpedal. Sad really.

You mean like Mike Pence, and Asa Hutchinson did on the backlash against their "legal bill"
Will we see Cruz backpedal with his constitutional amendment????


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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 11:54:52 AM   
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Kennedy's not a reliable defender of civil liberties. Just last week, he sided with Alito and Thomas on extending the time on a traffic stop for a dog sniff/fishing expedition.


I actually agree with the dissent. The majority was overreaching, and not even dealing with the facts of the case in front of them.

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 12:31:01 PM   
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Cruz has introduced not only a Constitutional Amendment to give States the decision of whether or not to approve gay marriage, but also a bill that would bar any judicial hearings and decisions on gay marriage until that Amendment is passed.

In my lifetime so far, the President that has had the most profound impact on my political views has no doubt been Ronald Reagan. I was a very impressionable youth.

And I have no doubt that when the issue of gay marriage is finally decided in the Supreme Court, it will be Ronald Reagan's appointee, Justice Kennedy, that reinforces every reason Ronnie was my hero.

Modern Republicans still have much to learn.



If I recall correctly, Obama also said it should be left up to the states but I don't remember anyone having a fit over that.

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 12:39:46 PM   
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Rhino much ?


The boycotts and other threats meant that the gay dudes had to backpedal. Sad really.

Why is it sad.....I think the man apologized for not doing his homework and looking into Cruz's actual position where the gay community was concerned.
Once he did so he regretted the invitation,was he not allowed to rethink his position ?

I don't think it was sad at all,I think it was a case of Cruz getting caught trying to take advantage of two guys who,were his views to become the law of the land,he would have screwed( pun intended)

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 12:41:58 PM   
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Cruz has introduced not only a Constitutional Amendment to give States the decision of whether or not to approve gay marriage, but also a bill that would bar any judicial hearings and decisions on gay marriage until that Amendment is passed.

In my lifetime so far, the President that has had the most profound impact on my political views has no doubt been Ronald Reagan. I was a very impressionable youth.

And I have no doubt that when the issue of gay marriage is finally decided in the Supreme Court, it will be Ronald Reagan's appointee, Justice Kennedy, that reinforces every reason Ronnie was my hero.

Modern Republicans still have much to learn.



If I recall correctly, Obama also said it should be left up to the states but I don't remember anyone having a fit over that.

Do you recall correctly President Obama coming out and saying his position had evolved.....perhaps your memory isn't all that good ?

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 1:42:31 PM   
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yeah, it "evolved" alright...

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Among the countless lies Obama has brazenly told to our faces, we can add his earlier opposition to the blasphemous deconstruction of marriage — according to David Axelrod, the guy who packaged the Moonbat Messiah so that the liberal media could hype him into power:

Barack Obama misled Americans for his own political benefit when he claimed in the 2008 election to oppose same sex marriage for religious reasons, his former political strategist David Axelrod writes in a new book, Believer: My Forty Years in Politics.

“I’m just not very good at bull*****ing,” Obama told Axelrod, after an event where he stated his opposition to same-sex marriage, according to the book.

Axelrod writes that he knew Obama was in favor of same-sex marriages during the first presidential campaign, even as Obama publicly said he only supported civil unions, not full marriages. Axelrod also admits to counseling Obama to conceal that position for political reasons. “Opposition to gay marriage was particularly strong in the black church, and as he ran for higher office, he grudgingly accepted the counsel of more pragmatic folks like me…”


http://terror-threats.beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2015/02/obama-lied-on-gay-marriage-to-get-elected-2969508.html

in any event---the issue here, with cruz, isn't gay marriage per se, its states rights vs the federal government.

and is it possible for you to reply to people without also working purposely to insult them?

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 1:43:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Rhino much ?


The boycotts and other threats meant that the gay dudes had to backpedal. Sad really.

Why is it sad.....I think the man apologized for not doing his homework and looking into Cruz's actual position where the gay community was concerned.
Once he did so he regretted the invitation,was he not allowed to rethink his position ?

I don't think it was sad at all,I think it was a case of Cruz getting caught trying to take advantage of two guys who,were his views to become the law of the land,he would have screwed( pun intended)


The Social Justice Bullies treatment of the two hoteliers was WRONG!

I am against the collective effort to control and dictate what is and is not permissible to say, or to think, or to feel, including who you can and cannot associate with; lest you be hauled before the commissars to be tried for guilt-by-association.

Fear is their weapon.

Don’t get caught with the wrong crowd. Don’t be seen talking to the wrong people. Don’t pass the wrong guys so much as a crumb of your sympathy or attention, or you’re done. Your association is proof of your crimes. Whether or not you committed any crimes is beside the point. You were caught with the criminals, therefore you must also be a criminal. Protestations to the contrary, are merely further proof of your guilt. You were seen walking on the same sidewalk in the same direction. Guilty, until proven . . . guilty.

The kafkatrap is sprung.

So, either you get on-script, rip your shirt, beat your chest, and go on the attack against others, or the commissars will turn you into a target.

Which is exactly what happened.

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 1:50:38 PM   
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I am against the collective effort to control and dictate what is and is not permissible to say, or to think, or to feel, including who you can and cannot associate with; lest you be hauled before the commissars to be tried for guilt-by-association.


and I think that aylee, is a very apt differentiation between the rest of us, and the totalitarian leftists (the party of "inclusion" so long as you toe the party line).

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 4:04:16 PM   
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I would agree with most of this. And Dr King is exactly why I will never be able to call Nelson Mandela a personal hero.



Not too long ago, on these very boards, I called Mandela a racist based upon his policy of "blacks first, everyone else second, then whites."

Naturally, I was lambasted, but the truth is: the way Mandela governed was the antithesis of the stated Utopian society of King.

Maybe you and I truly agree upon an issue?



Michael


Yeah cause the country Mandela ultimately was called on to lead was such a bastion of equality and fairness......you know you really are a joke.

Only no one,with any sense or intelligence ,is laughing WITH you.



I have already asked him to back this bullshit about Mandela up, as you can guess, I am still waiting.

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 4:07:06 PM   
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Cruz has introduced not only a Constitutional Amendment to give States the decision of whether or not to approve gay marriage, but also a bill that would bar any judicial hearings and decisions on gay marriage until that Amendment is passed.

In my lifetime so far, the President that has had the most profound impact on my political views has no doubt been Ronald Reagan. I was a very impressionable youth.

And I have no doubt that when the issue of gay marriage is finally decided in the Supreme Court, it will be Ronald Reagan's appointee, Justice Kennedy, that reinforces every reason Ronnie was my hero.

Modern Republicans still have much to learn.



If I recall correctly, Obama also said it should be left up to the states but I don't remember anyone having a fit over that.

Do you recall correctly President Obama coming out and saying his position had evolved.....perhaps your memory isn't all that good ?

Who knew that was going to happen when he made the first statement? So why wasn't he criticized?

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 4:09:30 PM   
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I am against the collective effort to control and dictate what is and is not permissible to say, or to think, or to feel, including who you can and cannot associate with; lest you be hauled before the commissars to be tried for guilt-by-association.


and I think that aylee, is a very apt differentiation between the rest of us, and the totalitarian leftists (the party of "inclusion" so long as you toe the party line).


So anyone who doesnt agree with you is a "totalitarion leftist"........ And you wonder why some of us think you are a joke.

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 4:21:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
I am against the collective effort to control and dictate what is and is not permissible to say, or to think, or to feel, including who you can and cannot associate with; lest you be hauled before the commissars to be tried for guilt-by-association.


and I think that aylee, is a very apt differentiation between the rest of us, and the totalitarian leftists (the party of "inclusion" so long as you toe the party line).


So anyone who doesnt agree with you is a "totalitarion leftist"........ And you wonder why some of us think you are a joke.



Bounty didnt write or suggest that anyone who doesnt agree with him is a "totalitarion leftist"

Care to try addressing his actual post, sans the pathetic straw man and the ad hominem fallacies?

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 4:23:57 PM   
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Talking of "pathetic straw man and the ad hominem fallacies".

I have missed you.................

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 4:29:05 PM   
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Talking of "pathetic straw man and the ad hominem fallacies".

I have missed you.................


Flattering, though I havent gone anywhere.

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 4:40:22 PM   
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yeah, it "evolved" alright...

quote:

Among the countless lies Obama has brazenly told to our faces, we can add his earlier opposition to the blasphemous deconstruction of marriage — according to David Axelrod, the guy who packaged the Moonbat Messiah so that the liberal media could hype him into power:

Barack Obama misled Americans for his own political benefit when he claimed in the 2008 election to oppose same sex marriage for religious reasons, his former political strategist David Axelrod writes in a new book, Believer: My Forty Years in Politics.

“I’m just not very good at bull*****ing,” Obama told Axelrod, after an event where he stated his opposition to same-sex marriage, according to the book.

Axelrod writes that he knew Obama was in favor of same-sex marriages during the first presidential campaign, even as Obama publicly said he only supported civil unions, not full marriages. Axelrod also admits to counseling Obama to conceal that position for political reasons. “Opposition to gay marriage was particularly strong in the black church, and as he ran for higher office, he grudgingly accepted the counsel of more pragmatic folks like me…”


http://terror-threats.beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2015/02/obama-lied-on-gay-marriage-to-get-elected-2969508.html

in any event---the issue here, with cruz, isn't gay marriage per se, its states rights vs the federal government.

and is it possible for you to reply to people without also working purposely to insult them?

That's what you guys always say....my response is that the civil war wasn't fought over slavery....it was a states rights issue(sarcasm now switched off,lol)

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 4:41:42 PM   
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yeah, it "evolved" alright...

quote:

Among the countless lies Obama has brazenly told to our faces, we can add his earlier opposition to the blasphemous deconstruction of marriage — according to David Axelrod, the guy who packaged the Moonbat Messiah so that the liberal media could hype him into power:

Barack Obama misled Americans for his own political benefit when he claimed in the 2008 election to oppose same sex marriage for religious reasons, his former political strategist David Axelrod writes in a new book, Believer: My Forty Years in Politics.

“I’m just not very good at bull*****ing,” Obama told Axelrod, after an event where he stated his opposition to same-sex marriage, according to the book.

Axelrod writes that he knew Obama was in favor of same-sex marriages during the first presidential campaign, even as Obama publicly said he only supported civil unions, not full marriages. Axelrod also admits to counseling Obama to conceal that position for political reasons. “Opposition to gay marriage was particularly strong in the black church, and as he ran for higher office, he grudgingly accepted the counsel of more pragmatic folks like me…”


http://terror-threats.beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2015/02/obama-lied-on-gay-marriage-to-get-elected-2969508.html

in any event---the issue here, with cruz, isn't gay marriage per se, its states rights vs the federal government.

and is it possible for you to reply to people without also working purposely to insult them?

Not only did I not insult Aylee(unless asking a question is an insult) but I would hazard a guess that any "insult" was in your mind,and your mind only.

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 4:43:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
I am against the collective effort to control and dictate what is and is not permissible to say, or to think, or to feel, including who you can and cannot associate with; lest you be hauled before the commissars to be tried for guilt-by-association.


and I think that aylee, is a very apt differentiation between the rest of us, and the totalitarian leftists (the party of "inclusion" so long as you toe the party line).

Talk about choosing up sides...it's now "us" versus "them" eh?
Lol.....if nothing else you are consistent in always,always being wrong

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RE: First to throw his hat in the ring - 4/27/2015 4:46:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
I am against the collective effort to control and dictate what is and is not permissible to say, or to think, or to feel, including who you can and cannot associate with; lest you be hauled before the commissars to be tried for guilt-by-association.


and I think that aylee, is a very apt differentiation between the rest of us, and the totalitarian leftists (the party of "inclusion" so long as you toe the party line).


So anyone who doesnt agree with you is a "totalitarion leftist"........ And you wonder why some of us know you are a joke.


Fixed it for you

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