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I saw your comment, going by in the scroll, Mike.

That said, I know you'll just poo-poo this since the interview was done on FOX but the commander of the Army Special Forces, when they were looking for Bergdahl, claims that at least six soldiers died, looking for the deserter.


Michael

Don't you ever keep up with the news???? ^^^ This has been established as CATEGORICALLY FALSE.

Mr. Fidell also wrote that the Dahl report debunked several assertions about Sergeant Bergdahl’s disappearance, including the widely reported accusation that some American soldiers had died because of the search for him in the months after his capture.

“The report properly dismisses a variety of contentions that have been made about Sergeant Bergdahl,” Mr. Fidell wrote. “No, he was not planning to walk to China or India. No, there is no evidence that any soldier died searching for him. No, there is no evidence of misbehavior of any kind while he was held captive. Nor is there any credible evidence that Sergeant Bergdahl left in order to get in touch with the Taliban.”

The Dahl report did quote from a June 27, 2009, email — days before Sergeant Bergdahl left his post — in which he told his parents that he was “ashamed to be an American,” Mr. Fidell wrote. Mr. Fidell said that General Dahl “wisely deemed this email irrelevant to the matter at hand and made nothing of it.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/us/army-bowe-bergdahl-desertion-charges.html


PS I found this interesting: The more serious charge, which carries the potential for a life sentence, is a rare and obscure charge called “misbehavior before the enemy,” one that left military lawyers struggling to recall the last time it was leveled against an American service member.

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this was from the link that Michael provided:

"Lt. Col. Michael Waltz, the man who led the search for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, was on “Hannity tonight to discuss Bergdahl’s desertion charge.

"Waltz commended the Army for charging Bergdahl today with desertion and misbehavior before the enemy. Desertion carries a maximum sentence of five years, and misbehavior before the enemy carries a maximum sentence of possible confinement for life.

"“We knew at the time that he had walked off his post and that he had put us in this position,” Waltz recalled of his time spent looking for Bergdahl. “And the disturbing thing was that the Taliban knew we were pulling out all the stops to look for him and were feeding false information into our informant network, so they were baiting us into ambushes. In one case, they had baited us into a house rigged to explode, thank God it didn’t.”

"Waltz added, “Soldiers died looking for him.”"

how do you reconcile testimony from an officer who seems to be speaking from the position of having experienced what he is talking about, with what general dahl is reporting?

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Okay ,lets shed a little bit more light on this issue,rather than the knee jerk parroting of right wing hysteria.

Where do you find this Mike?

Why must you turn every discussion into a right wing left wing thing... I can tell you that there are many so called left wing liberal military that are not happy with this man's conduct.

Butch

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I did Mike... you need to as well... the discussion on the death penalty was always prefaced with IF GUILTY.

Butch

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Okay ,lets shed a little bit more light on this issue,rather than the knee jerk parroting of right wing hysteria.

Where do you find this Mike?

Why must you turn every discussion into a right wing left wing thing... I can tell you that there are many so called left wing liberal military that are not happy with this man's conduct.

Butch

I honestly don't think he can help himself. I guess to some people the only way they can discuss something is if they first decide how it fits into their partisan view of the world. But that aside I am going to have to call bullshit on his reasoning. The only poster who suggested the death penalty was DS and that was at the end of page 3 in post 55. Mikey started the right vs left bs in the first page.

Now back to the op
Personally I think the guy deserves his day in court and if found guilty should spend the rest of his life in jail. Even if I believed in the death penalty, I don't feel it would apply here.

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Not true Otter. They do. They don't send out hit squads to drag them back but they do look. How long, that is command dependent. Whey my son deserted and I turned him in, yes you read that right, they picked him right up. They sent an officer, his squad leader, an MP, and a medic (he has major medical/mental issues that got him off from desertion). Point is, they were looking, I found him, end of story.

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>>claims that at least six soldiers died, looking for the deserter.<<

DaddtSaddyr, a huge peddler of bad information, actually printed this SHIT ^^^ as if there was any credibility to it.

The investigative report says NO, NO soidiers died looking for the B. So, DS's source is a FUCKING LIAR with some kind of fucked up agenda... Per usual, he peddles bad information with a folksy tone. Then, when anyone points out he's wrongheaded, he blocks'em.

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I line up with the left

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>>claims that at least six soldiers died, looking for the deserter.<<

DaddtSaddyr, a huge peddler of bad information, actually printed this SHIT ^^^ as if there was any credibility to it.

The investigative report says NO, NO soidiers died looking for the B. So, DS's source is a FUCKING LIAR with some kind of fucked up agenda... Per usual, he peddles bad information with a folksy tone. Then, when anyone points out he's wrongheaded, he blocks'em.

so its completely unfeasible then that general Dahl's report is mistaken, or wasn't created with some politics involved?

what more credibility do you want than the guy who actually "lead the search for him?"

and why must it be him (the officer in question) who has some kind of "fucked up agenda" and not the general?

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I line up with the left

I line up one step in front and wherever the hell I want...... I would rather be right than compassionate and fair than gentle.

Butch

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Not true Otter. They do. They don't send out hit squads to drag them back but they do look. How long, that is command dependent. Whey my son deserted and I turned him in, yes you read that right, they picked him right up. They sent an officer, his squad leader, an MP, and a medic (he has major medical/mental issues that got him off from desertion). Point is, they were looking, I found him, end of story.

On top of the fact that the upper echelon of the military believed him to be a P.O.W. In fact, he was promoted to E-5 in absentia because they believed him to be a P.O.W. And the military sure-as-shit mounts operations to get P.O.W.s back.



Michael

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Not true Otter. They do. They don't send out hit squads to drag them back but they do look. How long, that is command dependent. Whey my son deserted and I turned him in, yes you read that right, they picked him right up. They sent an officer, his squad leader, an MP, and a medic (he has major medical/mental issues that got him off from desertion). Point is, they were looking, I found him, end of story.

On top of the fact that the upper echelon of the military believed him to be a P.O.W. In fact, he was promoted to E-5 in absentia because they believed him to be a P.O.W. And the military sure-as-shit mounts operations to get P.O.W.s back.



Michael

Those promotions are pretty much moved to the head of the line because the soldier/sailor can't compete while a POW. It began in Viet Nam and went on pretty much since. YOu meet the time in service requirement and you get promoted.