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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 3/27/2015 4:21:07 PM   
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Nothing wrong with an opinion on right and wrong...but you do not have the right to paint someone right or wrong simply because of their political views that have nothing to do with this thread.

Butch

ps...Now if you would please help me off this high horse...I'm getting old.

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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 3/27/2015 5:16:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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Okay ,lets shed a little bit more light on this issue,rather than the knee jerk parroting of right wing hysteria.


Where do you find this Mike?

Why must you turn every discussion into a right wing left wing thing... I can tell you that there are many so called left wing liberal military that are not happy with this man's conduct.

Butch



I honestly don't think he can help himself. I guess to some people the only way they can discuss something is if they first decide how it fits into their partisan view of the world. But that aside I am going to have to call bullshit on his reasoning. The only poster who suggested the death penalty was DS and that was at the end of page 3 in post 55. Mikey started the right vs left bs in the first page.

Now back to the op
Personally I think the guy deserves his day in court and if found guilty should spend the rest of his life in jail. Even if I believed in the death penalty, I don't feel it would apply here.



Just another bullshit post from you wherein from your perch on the right you deride another poster,namely me,for his partisan views...you are as bad as anyone around here with your own right wing bias.....so stuff the patronizing preaching.
No one,save those on your side of the aisle,is buying the bullshit you put forth.
Yes I'm a partisan poster,and I have the balls to admit it.
I think those on the right are ,in general,mean spirited and lacking in compassion...and that's why I line up with the left.
We try not to speculate on possible death sentences until,and even than rarely,a person is actually charged with a crime whose penalty has a death sentence possible out come .
You and your buddies don't even require that much.



If you hadn't been in such a rush to tell me off you might have noticed that I said basically the same thing you did regarding the op. But you have to be a prick so I guess there is no point in actually trying to discuss it like adults. have a great day and don't be shocked if I ignore you from now on.

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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 3/27/2015 6:23:17 PM   
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Bounty, it's fine. Not only does this person wish to attack the messenger, rather than the message, but chooses to paint themselves as the "victim" of my putting them on ignore. I don't ignore people with whom I disagree (Hello, VincentML, Mr.Rodgers, Butch, I'm sure there are a few others.)

I ignored that particular poster because it was hurtful to me, the father of a dead Marine (who happened to identify as "mixed" because his mom was an ebony goddess {on the outside} and his dad was 75% white), to be called a "racist", implying that I hated my own flesh-and-blood, on a weekly (and almost daily) basis; to the point where many of the attacks were just plain off-topic.

That's why he went on ignore ... his compassion and open-mindedness as exemplified by his lefty puppet masters.

Michael



You put out bad information --- if you had any sense --- you would retract the claim and say you made a mistake. Instead, bat-shit claims are good enough for you. That might not be so bad in-and-of-itself, but then you repeat them to others by posting publicly debunked lies.


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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 3/27/2015 6:32:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

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Okay ,lets shed a little bit more light on this issue,rather than the knee jerk parroting of right wing hysteria.


Where do you find this Mike?

Why must you turn every discussion into a right wing left wing thing... I can tell you that there are many so called left wing liberal military that are not happy with this man's conduct.

Butch



I honestly don't think he can help himself. I guess to some people the only way they can discuss something is if they first decide how it fits into their partisan view of the world. But that aside I am going to have to call bullshit on his reasoning. The only poster who suggested the death penalty was DS and that was at the end of page 3 in post 55. Mikey started the right vs left bs in the first page.

Now back to the op
Personally I think the guy deserves his day in court and if found guilty should spend the rest of his life in jail. Even if I believed in the death penalty, I don't feel it would apply here.



Just another bullshit post from you wherein from your perch on the right you deride another poster,namely me,for his partisan views...you are as bad as anyone around here with your own right wing bias.....so stuff the patronizing preaching.
No one,save those on your side of the aisle,is buying the bullshit you put forth.
Yes I'm a partisan poster,and I have the balls to admit it.
I think those on the right are ,in general,mean spirited and lacking in compassion...and that's why I line up with the left.
We try not to speculate on possible death sentences until,and even than rarely,a person is actually charged with a crime whose penalty has a death sentence possible out come .
You and your buddies don't even require that much.



If you hadn't been in such a rush to tell me off you might have noticed that I said basically the same thing you did regarding the op. But you have to be a prick so I guess there is no point in actually trying to discuss it like adults. have a great day and don't be shocked if I ignore you from now on.

Shocked....I'll be fucking grateful.
Responding to your oft-repeated label of "partisan,partisan neener,neener" get's to be tiresome.
I am partisan,I have picked a side ...as have you.Whether you have the chops to admit or not.

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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 4/6/2015 9:33:58 PM   
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Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl is facing desertion and misconduct charges. Took long enough. How badly will this hurt Obama? Probably some at least since he traded 5 terrorists for him.


What would you have traded for him?

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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 4/6/2015 9:35:02 PM   
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I am not sure I am understanding your thoughts but desertion and misconduct in front of the enemy is a huge deal in the military.


It doest seem to have hurt "ace" mccain.

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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 4/6/2015 9:38:45 PM   
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Ron we saved one life... even if perhaps a worthless one...but we may have allowed an enemy to take many more in return in the future. That is why it has been policy... good policy...not to trade with an enemy. It just encourages future kidnappings.

On top of that some of those we traded were not just common foot soldiers but enemies capable of orchestrating the death of many Americans in the future.

Butch


We have a pretty long history of it....iran contra,ollie north,poindexter,raygun arms for hostages????

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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 4/6/2015 9:41:40 PM   
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Appears that the courts martial will conviene on April 22nd.


No it doesnt. Not till july.

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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 4/6/2015 9:42:50 PM   
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[coloThank goodness we gave up those five Al Qaeda/Isis officers for this treasonous moron. Now, we can feed and house him for the next few years while those officers can continue to wage war against us and kill our real soldiers, sailors and airmen.

We live in grand times, indeed!



Michael


In my country one is innocent till proven guilty...where do you live?

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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 4/6/2015 9:45:23 PM   
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Would that be the same Obama who praised Bergdahl in the Rose Garden, telling him "we never forgot about you"?

Why do you feel we should forget about our pow's?

The same Obama whose Ambassador , Susan Rice, stated that Bergdahl had served with "honor and distinction"?

I understand he stood more than one tour in the sandbox, how many have you served in the sandbox? What do you know of his record that would indicate that he had not served with honor and distinction?




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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 4/6/2015 9:47:20 PM   
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His choice to be there, you ever hear of you made your bed now lay in it?

You are absolutely right...he volunteered to go to the sandbox while you did not.

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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 4/6/2015 9:50:58 PM   
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If we could get him without unleashing 5 terrorists that would be different,

What would you have traded for him?

but do you really think we should have strengthened them to get a criminal back?

In my country one is innocent till proved guilty...where do you live?



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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 4/6/2015 9:52:08 PM   
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[colorIt's a shame we aren't in an actual declared war with the little mis-understood, throat-slitting bastards.

Then why are we in their country?

if we were, if Bergdahl were found guilty of desertion, we could execute the piece of shit.

Just like eddie slovak?

Brave men died, trying to find him, thinking he had been taken; not wanted to join up with the enemy.

That would be your ignorant,unsubstantiated opinion. The facts are otherwise.

At the very least, he should get a sentence of life, in front of the firing squad, not knowing if they're ever going to actually pull the triggers.

The costitution forbids that sort of behaviour...your respect for our constitution seems to be rather limited.


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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 4/6/2015 9:53:10 PM   
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When they die as a result of his treason yes he is responsible.


How did this one commit treason when no war has been declared? Do you put him in the same catagory as "tokyo rose"?

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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 4/6/2015 9:54:13 PM   
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When I was at NSA they told us that we would be considered deserters after 24 hours.

You have told us you were in the national guard/fraud now it is nsa....

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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 4/6/2015 9:57:36 PM   
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Trreason is more or less rendering aid and comfort to the enemy.


Kinda like "ace mccain?

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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 4/6/2015 10:01:23 PM   
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Again, misbehavior and disertion are really big deals in the military.


That sorta depends on who you are. If you are bobby garwood it is one thing and if you are "ace" mccain it is something different.


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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 4/6/2015 10:04:03 PM   
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anyone else see where NCIS said some time ago that their investigation showed he meant to defect?

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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 4/6/2015 10:05:45 PM   
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how do you reconcile testimony from an officer who seems to be speaking from the position of having experienced what he is talking about, with what general dahl is reporting?

I simply compare it to the lies the army put out about the football player "hero" that died glorously in combat to find out that was less than true.

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RE: Dersition and misconduct charges for Bergdahl - 4/6/2015 10:07:26 PM   
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I'm with the dog-face, on this one.

In the case of the football hero wernt those the ones who hatched the lie?

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