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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 4:55:59 PM   
Politesub53


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Nope, homophobia would imply I'm afraid of gay people.

Homophobia doesnt mean just what you suggest it means.

http://www.stonewall.org.uk/at_home/sexual_orientation_faqs/2697.asp

From your link:

The word homophobia was constructed by the heterosexual psychologist George Weinberg in the late 1960s. He used homophobia to label heterosexuals’ dread of being in close quarters with homosexuals as well as homosexuals’ internalised oppression.

Politically correct social justice loons have completely distorted the meaning of the word to impugn the mental health of anyone who disagrees with them and to remove its application to homosexuals completely. But your own source shows that the meaning of the word carries no implication of any kind of "hatred" or "intolerance" toward gays in general, and it still doesn't, though definition-creep now has it including antipathy.

homophobia:
1. unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.
antipathy:
1. a natural, basic, or habitual repugnance; aversion
2. an instinctive contrariety or opposition in feeling.

We can assume, of course, that if the lie is repeated often enough it will eventually make its way full-blown into all our dictionaries. But so far, at least, it hasn't. Tough shit for you, eh?

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None so blind as those that cannot see Kirata, did you purposely miss the first two lines in blue (your favourite colour for links). I would be amazed if you did as they are very clear, right at the top of the link.

Homophobia is the irrational hatred, intolerance, and fear of lesbian, gay and bisexual (LGB) people.

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 5:02:34 PM   
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"We don't support gay marriages" is a slur?



What the fuck are you on about ?....... Are you so thick that you dont see that this is a slur when you ask a gay person to print it for you.

Dont answer that as it wasnt a question.

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 5:03:10 PM   
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THAT said...I'm still waiting for all those on this thread who have been against the Christian pizza owner for standing by his beliefs to sound off against this woman.


Sorry, I do not think that small businesses should be destroyed because of what the owners believe regarding gay marriage.

I do not think we should punish grandma and grandpa because of their beliefs either.

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 5:22:07 PM   
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Nope, homophobia would imply I'm afraid of gay people.

Homophobia doesnt mean just what you suggest it means.

http://www.stonewall.org.uk/at_home/sexual_orientation_faqs/2697.asp

From your link:

The word homophobia was constructed by the heterosexual psychologist George Weinberg in the late 1960s. He used homophobia to label heterosexuals’ dread of being in close quarters with homosexuals as well as homosexuals’ internalised oppression.

Politically correct social justice loons have completely distorted the meaning of the word to impugn the mental health of anyone who disagrees with them and to remove its application to homosexuals completely. But your own source shows that the meaning of the word carries no implication of any kind of "hatred" or "intolerance" toward gays in general, and it still doesn't, though definition-creep now has it including antipathy.

homophobia:
1. unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.
antipathy:
1. a natural, basic, or habitual repugnance; aversion
2. an instinctive contrariety or opposition in feeling.

We can assume, of course, that if the lie is repeated often enough it will eventually make its way full-blown into all our dictionaries. But so far, at least, it hasn't. Tough shit for you, eh?

None so blind as those that cannot see Kirata, did you purposely miss the first two lines in blue (your favourite colour for links). I would be amazed if you did as they are very clear, right at the top of the link.

Homophobia is the irrational hatred, intolerance, and fear of lesbian, gay and bisexual (LGB) people.

No I didn't miss them, bozo. Your link is not a dictionary. "Re-purposing" words and concepts seems to be central to the progressive vision for a social utopia. But first you have to sell your made up crap, and I'm not buying.

K.

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 5:29:43 PM   
Politesub53


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I already posted a different link, to a proper dictionary no less.

Try and keep up Kirata.......

And for the zillionth time to all you arseholes who still dont get it.... I am not left wing, I vote Conservative (Unsure I will in 5 weeks time)

Granted I am not as right wing as some of the bigots on here though.

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 5:37:58 PM   
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You...and a couple others are right. I should have said..."In Florida..."

Mea culpa.

THAT said...I'm still waiting for all those on this thread who have been against the Christian pizza owner for standing by his beliefs to sound off against this woman.



Don't hold your breath, brother!



Michael


I'm actually not against the pizzeria owner for standing up for her beliefs, though they are contrary to my own. The Bible has numerous verses about persecution. Faith is meant to be tested, time and time again. Which is what I mean by each of us being ultimately responsible for our own religious beliefs, and adhering to them. Sacrificing monetary gains instead of your immortal soul seems kinda important. Government can't guarantee your afterlife, but I am glad that ours provides the freedom to steer our own course in getting there.

With that said, I will likely never step foot in Memories Pizza. I've never been to Indiana, and see no reason for a trip there in the near future. But I have no desire to go against my own beliefs to continue stirring the pot against anyone that's already suffering.

I do however live maybe 20 minutes from Cut The Cake. And I do love cake. So I'll likely stop in at some point over the next week or so and see what they have available. Their website looks promising.

I agree that both the pastor and reporter/editor are all assholes.

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 5:52:38 PM   
JVoV


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Status: offline 		Instead of being a moral question, this is now a legitimate legal issue.

Does government have a compelling reason to burden the beliefs of those that are religious? To what degree?

I think Indiana lawmakers decided that interstate commerce was a compelling enough reason in this particular case. Arkansas and other states have agreed. Did gay rights come into play for any of the Republicans anywhere? Not for me to judge.

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 6:01:12 PM   
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http://www.collarchat.com/m_4795874/mpage_35/tm.htm#

I already posted a different link, to a proper dictionary no less.

Proper my ass. You don't get to wave the Oxford around as if it was the Bible. And perhaps you failed to notice, or hope everyone else did, that there is nothing in that definition about "hatred" and "intolerance." Which isn't to say that that meaning isn't creeping into our dictionaries. Just not all of them, yet. It will get there though, and few people will realize the degree to which the original meaning of the word has been changed and re-purposed for political effect.

K.




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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 6:11:19 PM   
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Sorry,I'm not buying any of this bullshit,no matter how many first person accounts you share wit us.
I'm still calling bullshit.Barring folks from a public establishment based on their orientation is called discrimination....and you will never convince me it is openly and frequently practiced on the part of gay bars.
I've some business experience...the first rule of business is one doesn't turn away business...to exclude all straight people is a) stupid,financially.
b) impossible to enforce (even with your super power straight detector)
and c) illegal.


Yes it is discrimination, I believe I pointed that out in the beginning.

a As to your business experience, doesn't mean shit. I didn't say this was a good idea. In fact I told you one of the bars went out of business because of it.

b not hard at all. No super powers needed. All you have to do is pay attention.

c and yet not one of them called the cops. maybe they didn't know it was illegal or maybe they didn't care.

Now I am not sure why I bothered because you have already made up your mind and I could come back with video and you would still deny it. But it is what it is.

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 6:32:19 PM   
Kirata


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or maybe they didn't care.

What a concept.

K.


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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 7:02:33 PM   
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Yea, I'll get to that link sometime in 2016.

As a member of The Society For The Perpetually Offended, do you ever have any fun or do ya just stand around drinking coffee all day ?
Ya know what they say don'tcha ? Burnt lips sink ships


Poor boy, upset because I pointed out your continued bullshit are we ?

You should really get a dictionary and look up "homophobia" rather than try and make yourself look clever with personal attacks.

Since the Stonewall link wasnt too your liking, and no big shock there, here is a link to the OED.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/homophobia



Oh yes, I'm so very upset Pointing out my continued bullshit ???? Oh the embarrassment

I'll get to that link sometime after I look it up in the dictionary. Thanks so much.

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 7:26:48 PM   
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... I am not left wing, I vote Conservative



I'm not conservative, I voted for the king of England

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 7:54:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		lovmuffin.......................which King and when and how did you vote for him ? I have known a few queens you could vote for over there, but never a King *smile*.

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 8:03:33 PM   
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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 8:11:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Samite DS *smile*..............which nobody is too sure of what it was................semites don't shimmer; or at least none do that I know *smile*

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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 8:12:52 PM   
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My spell-check insisted that was it. I, originally, had the "a" in there but damned if I can figure out all the different limey accents



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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 8:24:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Believe me DS, a lot of limeys cant. I have sailed on ships where there might have been 30 different accents among a crew of 50 who came from all points south of Stornoway ( and some of those only spoke gaelic) all the way to Lands End and all points in between as well as a couple of complete foreigners ( Mauritians and Kiwis).After ten months or so with that lot, you manage to get a vague idea what they are all about. Wait until you have the misfortune to be in the company of a Stornowegian, a Glaswegian, a Geordie, a Scouse, a Cockney and maybe a Janner.....................That will REALLY test you *smile*, especially if they are all 3 parts drunk.


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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 8:27:06 PM   
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I've actually been in the company of a Geordie, a Glaswegian (both sober) and two drunken Brummie bints. That was a night!



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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 8:30:02 PM   
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RE: Indiania can now discriminant against anyone - 4/4/2015 8:32:24 PM   
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