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thompsonx -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 9:44:24 AM)


ORIGINAL: Sanity

'Slobberings' would be trying to equate giving rifles to those fighting for their lives from the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics,

Oh my another "proxy war". Why is that our business?



with handing "death to America" chanting Ayatollahs nuclear tipped missiles

Do you remember just what we gave the ayotollas?

And the questions surrounding the agreement are credible enough

Thankyou for acknowledging that they are questions and not as you previously characterized them.




thompsonx -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 9:48:40 AM)

Okay,I'm going to need a link that asserts anyone,anyone at all,is handing Iran nuclear tipped missiles.
That would seem to be just plain silly.
As soon as you provide said link I'm humping onto your side Sanity,cause that's just wrong.

Would you prefer that we charge them?




slvemike4u -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 9:50:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Well, I guess the right to keep and bear arms only applies to us. And we are keeping nukes out of their hands, no other administration has done so.


The Constitution was never meant to be a suicide pact, nor does it call for arming or allowing the arming of those chanting for our demise

And as has been pointed out many times in this thread already, the deal is at best one of questionable integrity

I'm glad you brought that up....the suicide pact thing.


So once the amount of victims of gun violence reaches a certain tipping point you will be joining me in calling for a change to the Second,right ?
Or are you of the mind that no amount of dead bodies can effect that particular amendment ?




slvemike4u -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 9:52:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

It has not been pointed out with any credible fact or citation by those without any credibility, which are the ones doing the slobberings.

I agree that our constitution does not call for the arming of those chanting our demise, and St. Wrinklemeat did that twice durin his reign of imbecility and lawless goon and thugging.


'Slobberings' would be trying to equate giving rifles to those fighting for their lives from the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, with handing "death to America" chanting Ayatollahs nuclear tipped missiles

And the questions surrounding the agreement are credible enough

Okay,I'm going to need a link that asserts anyone,anyone at all,is handing Iran nuclear tipped missiles.
That would seem to be just plain silly.
As soon as you provide said link I'm humping onto your side Sanity,cause that's just wrong [8|]


http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4800261

Welcome to the right side of every argument, mike

Bullshit once again.....your link took me to a post of yours....what does that have to do with your backing up an assertion that folks are handing Iran nuclear tipped missiles ?


edited to add;I'm consistently on the "right side" of arguments sanity as proven by the fact that you are always on the other side arguing against me [:D]




slvemike4u -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 9:54:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Okay,I'm going to need a link that asserts anyone,anyone at all,is handing Iran nuclear tipped missiles.
That would seem to be just plain silly.
As soon as you provide said link I'm humping onto your side Sanity,cause that's just wrong.

Would you prefer that we charge them?

Well shit yeah...I'm going to assume it cost us lots of money to make the damm things.
That's taxpayer money,no?




Sanity -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 9:56:47 AM)


The link took you to cloudboys post #50, the one right above mine

Click on the link he provided





slvemike4u -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 10:02:21 AM)

The article you referenced,and linked ,makes a case that Iran having nuclear weapons establishes a true balance of power in the region.
Which I don't agree with .
Still saw nothing that asserts anyone will be giving nuclear tipped missiles to Iran.....so what you were doing there was engaging in some more sanity hyperbole.
Nothing to see her ,move along it's just sanity being sanity.




Sanity -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 10:13:40 AM)


The article headline:

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Why Iran Should Get the Bomb

Nuclear Balancing Would Mean Stability


Backpedal all you want, who gives a fuck




thompsonx -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 10:18:54 AM)

Well shit yeah...I'm going to assume it cost us lots of money to make the damm things.
That's taxpayer money,no?

Consider also that it is going to cost them to do what we have done. We know how much that is because we have already paid for it. Now how best to recoup our investment. Tell them" look I know it is going to cost you x bux to get something on paper that will translate to hardware. How bout I sell you the data for say x-n? Since I know it will take you y time to do all of that how bout we deal in "just in time inventory" as in you get data at the same rate you would have spent going it alone. You see this is win win. You guys get a bomb in the same time line you now have only this way it cost you less money...and we recoup, for the "amerikan taxpayer", a significant portion of our investment in the cold war."
We also know how much it cost to make nukes and what it looks like when you go into production. If someone was just gearing up to be a war monger against a major player that has to be a real uphill climb. How many thousand nukes does the u.s. have? So if vaporization is your idea of fun then get into a pissing contest with someone who has a couple of thousand times more devices.
"An armed society is a polite society"




slvemike4u -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 10:28:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


The article headline:

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Why Iran Should Get the Bomb

Nuclear Balancing Would Mean Stability


Backpedal all you want, who gives a fuck

And nowhere is it stated that anyone GAVE,Iran nuclear tipped missiles [8|]
it would appear you were once again adding your own tilt to things.




slvemike4u -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 10:30:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Well shit yeah...I'm going to assume it cost us lots of money to make the damm things.
That's taxpayer money,no?

Consider also that it is going to cost them to do what we have done. We know how much that is because we have already paid for it. Now how best to recoup our investment. Tell them" look I know it is going to cost you x bux to get something on paper that will translate to hardware. How bout I sell you the data for say x-n? Since I know it will take you y time to do all of that how bout we deal in "just in time inventory" as in you get data at the same rate you would have spent going it alone. You see this is win win. You guys get a bomb in the same time line you now have only this way it cost you less money...and we recoup, for the "amerikan taxpayer", a significant portion of our investment in the cold war."
We also know how much it cost to make nukes and what it looks like when you go into production. If someone was just gearing up to be a war monger against a major player that has to be a real uphill climb. How many thousand nukes does the u.s. have? So if vaporization is your idea of fun then get into a pissing contest with someone who has a couple of thousand times more devices.
"An armed society is a polite society"


Well since I have been consistent in my assertion that the whole "armed society is a polite society" is just so much bullshit....I'm comfortable with my position [:)]




Sanity -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 10:39:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

And nowhere is it stated that anyone GAVE,Iran nuclear tipped missiles [8|]
it would appear you were once again adding your own tilt to things.


To try to save yourself embarrassment you embarrass yourself some more

You know its a figure of speech, but like a small child find yourself pretending otherwise

Why not save yourself the self-imposed stupidity and just simply argue the reality mike

It should be noted that Iran already has the missiles btw




slvemike4u -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 10:48:01 AM)

Yes,they built it themselves...no one GAVE it to them
You worry about yourself and being an asshole.
I'll take care of me [:D]




thompsonx -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 10:51:49 AM)

Well since I have been consistent in my assertion that the whole "armed society is a polite society" is just so much bullshit....I'm comfortable with my position


The genie is out of the bottle. They will get what ever they want whether we like it or not. So now we are back to charge them or not?




Sanity -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 11:02:45 AM)


Why would you be alright with Iran building nukes themselves, if you are against others literally giving them to Iran

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mnottertail -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 11:06:01 AM)

To argue reality, one would have to state the fact that Iran does not have nuclear missiles.

What other hallucinations need to be slobbered, after that fact is mentioned?




Sanity -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 11:12:48 AM)


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Iran Produces First Long-Range Missile

Iran has unveiled a domestically produced long-range land attack cruise missile, dubbed Soumar.

Based on the Russian Kh-55, the Soumar is believed to have a range of at least 2,000 km. “This missile represents a significant leap in the Middle East arms race,” says Col. Aviram Hasson of Israel’s Missile Defense Organization.

“It positions Iran among the world’s leaders in missile technology,” a Western intelligence source adds.

http://aviationweek.com/defense/iran-produces-first-long-range-missile


Why is it my job, to constantly school the ignorant

(I never wrote that they had nuclear missiles, thats just more of your slobber)









mnottertail -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 11:49:26 AM)

out of israel. got any credible citations?


https://www.google.com/search?q=iran%27s+long+range+missile&rlz=1C1KMZB_enUS510US510&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&imgil=X9z-KrPVAqQRhM%253A%253B7bnF9kYHk_D8uM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.theguardian.com%25252Fworld%25252F2009%25252Fsep%25252F28%25252Firan-tests-long-range-missiles&source=iu&pf=m&fir=X9z-KrPVAqQRhM%253A%252C7bnF9kYHk_D8uM%252C_&usg=__MPpsVBQAEbQcSXki7ZggLm-k2Xc%3D&biw=960&bih=482&dpr=1.5&ved=0CE8Qyjc&ei=QHglVaT1D4qqsAWzt4OYAQ#imgrc=X9z-KrPVAqQRhM%253A%3B7bnF9kYHk_D8uM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fstatic.guim.co.uk%252Fsys-images%252FGuardian%252FPix%252Fmaps_and_graphs%252F2009%252F09%252F28%252Firan_missile_map.gif%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.theguardian.com%252Fworld%252F2009%252Fsep%252F28%252Firan-tests-long-range-missiles%3B460%3B400


Who do you think they are going to hit with it? Russia? Saudi Arabia? Or do you think they are gonna lob that little mosquito into nuclear warhead infested Israel, and why would we give a shit?




Sanity -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 12:09:49 PM)


Quit wasting our time if you dont have a clue as to why you should care about jihadis with nukes, your petulant demands for more proof of something every informed individual on the planet should be aware of, just so you can backpedal into self imposed ignorance and denial once it is delivered, bore me




mnottertail -> RE: Deal reached with Iran (4/8/2015 12:12:33 PM)

Why would anyone care about jihad with nukes when they do not have any or the capability of producing any? We should worry that the 47 traitors in the US Senate will not be incarcerated and electrocuted, that is real.

You are just fucking stupid, there is no petulance in that statement, it is pure fact.





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