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Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil mass - 4/5/2015 8:31:09 PM   
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Police say a man accidentally shot himself in his hand at the Cathedral of the Blessed Sacrament

http://www.wtae.com/news/gun-goes-off-in-altoona-church-during-mass/32202174

My theory: It was a public service.

The Vigil is a long liturgy, and the guy wanted to make sure everyone was awake for the drive home.

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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/5/2015 9:26:07 PM   
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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/5/2015 9:32:49 PM   
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Police say a man had a gun in his pocket and it discharged when he stood up. The bullet grazed the man's hand. An Altoona newspaper reported the trigger caught on the man's pants and the gun's safety was not on.

I'm having trouble seeing that.

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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/5/2015 10:50:05 PM   
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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/5/2015 11:17:19 PM   
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Police say a man had a gun in his pocket and it discharged when he stood up. The bullet grazed the man's hand. An Altoona newspaper reported the trigger caught on the man's pants and the gun's safety was not on.

I'm having trouble seeing that.

K.




Possibly the hammer? On a revolver (which might not have a safety)?

I could see a hammer, getting caught on someone's pants, causing an accidental dis-charge.



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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/6/2015 12:41:08 AM   
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Police say a man had a gun in his pocket and it discharged when he stood up. The bullet grazed the man's hand. An Altoona newspaper reported the trigger caught on the man's pants and the gun's safety was not on.

I'm having trouble seeing that.

K.



That's kind of like the gun went off when I was cleaning it.

I can't see that one either.

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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/6/2015 12:54:44 AM   
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Police say a man had a gun in his pocket and it discharged when he stood up. The bullet grazed the man's hand. An Altoona newspaper reported the trigger caught on the man's pants and the gun's safety was not on.

I'm having trouble seeing that.

K.




Possibly the hammer? On a revolver (which might not have a safety)?

I could see a hammer, getting caught on someone's pants, causing an accidental dis-charge.



Michael


I can't see that either unless the barrel would be pointed up. He would have to be pulling it out for that to be the case. The only way I could see what Kirata posted is if there was another object or objects in his pocket that pushed on the trigger when he stood up and his pants tightened up.....er maybe......with the safety off of course.

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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/6/2015 1:55:24 AM   
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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/6/2015 4:27:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		I browsed to see what they of gun was used. Some do not have trigger guards. Either way, the guy was an idiot.

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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/6/2015 4:42:50 AM   
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Wtf kinda church does this guy go to where he's gotta be packin?


Welcome to modern day Christian churches....

On a more serious note; its a good thing the injury was not more serious. There is a reason why one keeps a firearm in a holster rather than in their pocket.

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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/6/2015 4:52:31 AM   
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Wtf kinda church does this guy go to where he's gotta be packin?

Do you think maybe the denomination matters?

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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/6/2015 4:57:01 AM   
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Welcome to modern day Christian churches....

Yeah really. You'd think they'd know better than to hold their shooting contests inside the Church. It only takes one person to get the schedule mixed up, and look what can happen.

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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/6/2015 5:38:32 AM   
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How does one carry a gun in a pocket anyway? I thought they were much too heavy to do that for any real length of time.

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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/6/2015 5:47:02 AM   
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Wtf kinda church does this guy go to where he's gotta be packin?


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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/6/2015 6:16:43 AM   
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My guess would be a north american arms mini revolver...no trigger guard...

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrTcddIhiJVdV8AVrMPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTB0MzkwOG5yBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1lIUzAwNF8x?p=north+american+arms+mini+revolver&back=http%3A%2F%2Fus.yhs4.search.yahoo.com%2Fyhs%2Fsearch%3Fp%3Dnorth%2Bamerican%2Barms%2Bmini%2Brevolver%26type%3Dvst_dnldstr_15_03_ie_ag269%26param1%3D1%26param2%3Dcd%253D2XzuyEtN2Y1L1QzutDtDtBtCyCtAyByE0A0E0Azy0D0DtD0AtN0D0Tzu0StCtCtCtBtN1L2XzutAtFyBtFtCtFtBtN1L1CzutCyEtBzytDyD1V1BtAtN1L1G1B1V1N2Y1L1Qzu2SyC0CzyyCyCzzzyyBtGyCtAtA0CtGzzyCtDyBtGtAyCyB0BtGtDtB0ByBtDyByCyD0BtCtByC2QtN1M1F1B2Z1V1N2Y1L1Qzu2SyDyBtCtBzz0CyCyEtGtD0ByE0FtGyEtBtBzytG0BtA0D0CtGyByEyCtDtDtAtDzy0E0AyCzz2Q%2526cr%253D1119735012%2526a%253Dvst_dnldstr_15_03_ie%2526f%253D1%2526cat%253Dweb%2526sid%253D5a4fa52441bbf40f68fc76f0efee54e9%2526sesid%253D9ff5d821426aa9de3b25d3ccaf6b1452%2526abid%253D89%2526abg%253D269%2526ip%253D107.25.75.145%2526b%253DIE%2526bv%253D9.0%2526os%253DWindows%252BVista%2526pa%253Dvosteran%26hsimp%3Dyhs-fullyhosted_003%26hspart%3Diry%26ei%3DUTF-8&w=600&h=600&imgurl=tooeleshootingsupply.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F06%2Fnaa-mini-rev.jpg&size=33KB&name=naa-mini-rev.jpg&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftooeleshootingsupply.com%2Fshop%2Fnorth-american-arms-mini-revolver-22lr-stainless-steel-5-round-capacity-1-18-barrel-naa-22lr%2F&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftooeleshootingsupply.com%2Fshop%2Fnorth-american-arms-mini-revolver-22lr-stainless-steel-5-round-capacity-1-18-barrel-naa-22lr%2F&type=&no=1&tt=120&oid=1aa930568600b85143e24951f4792c58&tit=North+American+Arms+Mini+Revolver-+.22lr%2C+Stainless+Steel%2C+5-Round+...&sigr=142djvh5l&sigi=124r57hgc&sign=10ge82s7f&sigt=103vg5ole&sigb=1n3hm4qvl&hspart=iry&hsimp=yhs-fullyhosted_003

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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/6/2015 6:55:00 AM   
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How does one carry a gun in a pocket anyway? I thought they were much too heavy to do that for any real length of time.


https://www.cobrapistols.net/product-standard-derringers.asp

This is just one example of a derringer without a trigger guard and low weight (9.5 oz)

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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/6/2015 7:29:30 AM   
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How does one carry a gun in a pocket anyway? I thought they were much too heavy to do that for any real length of time.


https://www.cobrapistols.net/product-standard-derringers.asp

This is just one example of a derringer without a trigger guard and low weight (9.5 oz)

All handguns that I am familiar with that lack a trigger guard are single action. Thus just putting pressure on the trigger wouldn't do it, unless he carried it cocked, in which case he was an accident waiting to happen.

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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/6/2015 7:31:47 AM   
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How does one carry a gun in a pocket anyway? I thought they were much too heavy to do that for any real length of time.

https://www.cobrapistols.net/product-standard-derringers.asp

This is just one example of a derringer without a trigger guard and low weight (9.5 oz)

Could be but still, those are all single-action. Snagging the trigger wouldn't do anything unless it was cocked.

(Cue Darwin)

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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/6/2015 7:32:14 AM   
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How does one carry a gun in a pocket anyway? I thought they were much too heavy to do that for any real length of time.

I used to carry a .45 automatic in my hip pocket, only problem I ever had with it was that I had to carry a empty wallet in that pocket for when I sat down.

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RE: Gun goes off in Altoona church during Easter Vigil ... - 4/6/2015 8:18:24 AM   
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I used to carry a .45 automatic in my hip pocket, only problem I ever had with it was that I had to carry a empty wallet in that pocket for when I sat down.



lol lol lol lol lol lol I would pay a nickle to see anyone use their hip pocket to carry a 8.5" long pistol


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