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for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/11/2015 4:10:06 PM   
wannapleez


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Status: offline 		Some guys (and who knows, maybe I'm one of them?) make for absolutely hideous women when made up and wearing a wig. Like, if there's a word that is the exact opposite of "androgynous", they are that word.

For Mistresses into forced feminization: Does such "anti-androgyny" in a sub/slave/etc enhance or detract from (or neither) the experience for you? I can see arguments for either, but wanted the opinions (primarily) of the ladies who make it happen.

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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/12/2015 5:23:38 PM   
IsobelHerself


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Status: offline 		For me, as long as a boy is trussed up in frills, it's so much easier to get down to business. A sissy will never pass as a woman. Part of the forced idea is that it's humiliating, because they look ridiculous. I wrote an article on feminization here: http://simplysxy.com/articles/2015/02/18/crossdressing-sissification-and-genderfcking/

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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/12/2015 6:28:22 PM   
JVoV


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Status: offline 		Then the boy is wearing the wrong wig, badly applied make-up, and unflattering clothes.

How many natural women make these mistakes?

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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/12/2015 7:10:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why is it no one ever takes a prissy sissy and forces them to butch up?

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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/12/2015 8:07:05 PM   
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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/12/2015 8:07:24 PM   
JVoV


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Why is it no one ever takes a prissy sissy and forces them to butch up?


Aww. You feel left out?

There's a quote from the film The Cement Garden (1993) used in Madonna's song 'What It Feels Like For A Girl':

Girls can wear jeans and cut their hair short, wear shirts and boots, because it's OK to be a boy, but for a boy to look like a girl is degrading, because you think that being a girl is degrading. But secretly you'd love to know what it's like, wouldn't you? What it feels like for a girl?

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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/12/2015 8:08:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV


quote:

ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant

Why is it no one ever takes a prissy sissy and forces them to butch up?


Aww. You feel left out?




Exactly!

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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/12/2015 8:08:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV


quote:

ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant

Why is it no one ever takes a prissy sissy and forces them to butch up?


Aww. You feel left out?

There's a quote from the film The Cement Garden (1993) used in Madonna's song 'What It Feels Like For A Girl':

Girls can wear jeans and cut their hair short, wear shirts and boots, because it's OK to be a boy, but for a boy to look like a girl is degrading, because you think that being a girl is degrading. But secretly you'd love to know what it's like, wouldn't you? What it feels like for a girl?
that is a sexist based rant waiting to happen.

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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/12/2015 8:29:36 PM   
JVoV


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ORIGINAL: housebitch777

that is a sexist based rant waiting to happen.



I'm not quite sure how, when forced feminization is used for "humiliation", according to a prior post.

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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/13/2015 12:07:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV


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ORIGINAL: housebitch777

that is a sexist based rant waiting to happen.



I'm not quite sure how, when forced feminization is used for "humiliation", according to a prior post.


You seem to assume (Here's the edited part: I should say that the QUOTATION seems to assume, though I believe it's being shared for a reason...) that the humiliating part of forced fem is emulating a woman. That being a girl is the degrading part.

Virtually everyone I've talked and played with feels exactly the opposite. "Look at the grace and beauty you will never be able to achieve." Being a woman, in this scenario, isn't humiliating. Not being ABLE to be a woman is.

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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/13/2015 1:35:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		To the contrary, sissies love being women and frilly. As the phrase humiliation connotes, they hate being caught in the thing/activity they love. I guess that goes more to prove the point, however, than settle it. Humiliation, if achieved by those desiring this aspect is an added bonus to the love of emulating a woman as sort of a lowered and marginal status in my mind. Of Course there is no one way to describe its adherence or repulsion.

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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/13/2015 5:08:50 PM   
JVoV


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Status: offline 		I believe the process can be humiliating or empowering, as can the outcome. And of course, as with any kink, that will be different in each situation, mostly due to the intentions, desires, and skills of the Dom/me, as well as the needs of the sub.

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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/17/2015 4:26:22 AM   
wannapleez


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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/17/2015 5:54:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have always understood forced fem as a form of humiliation, hence it being forced rather than simple feminization. Thus, the more anti-androgenous they are, the better the humiliation aspect.

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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/18/2015 1:06:55 AM   
wannapleez


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ORIGINAL: MistressRage

I have always understood forced fem as a form of humiliation, hence it being forced rather than simple feminization. Thus, the more anti-androgenous they are, the better the humiliation aspect.


And that's where my mind went on the "pro" side of things. On the "con" side was if (for the Mistress) it wasn't solely about humiliation, but if there was an aesthetic factor too.

ETA: Case in point, the one Domme who was really into forced fem for me had me in lacy panties and stockings when we played, but when we were apart, I was still to wear panties that were definitely feminine, but not specifically pretty (e.g. colors and patterns that would never be found in men's underwear). So it was all humiliation for her when apart, but an added component of aesthetics when together.

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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/18/2015 5:26:12 AM   
DerangedUnit


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Status: offline 		Years ago when I was poly the girls were all depressed one day because our owner was being a bastard(he told 2 of them he wouldn't post certain compromising photos then did). I tied a pink bow around his junk and convinced them to help me braid and bow his hair and trim his eyebrows/goatee while he was asleep. And post the pictures on his page. He actually looked pretty girly.

Now guys are too feminine to bother, I have done it to a few girls(I was a makeup girl).... but even as a makeup salesperson I sold more makeup to men.

I still enjoy taking my dogs out for tea parties, especially if they are big and dirty for a hard days work... or going to the ice cream parlor with the guys. But I don't like feminizing, if it made them less manly I wouldn't be interested. I like the contrast, things being out of place.

...guess my fetish is more shocking old ladies

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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/18/2015 6:33:56 AM   
iwearpanties


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As a sub male who first wore panties at a very young age . Form my own experiences when I was younger and trying on moms or sisters panties at that time frame in my life . I look back and realize it was a sexual awakening and learning experience for me.

I realize I was young but I can see what and where it led me form panties to bras and other lingerie . To eventually. Trying and experiencing. Domination and submission . I at no time did I ever feel I was In The wrong body or that I wanted and need to live as a as Female I have all the utmost Respect for every Female . So for me using Humiliation in and as a form of Forced Feminization comes form not the dressing but the posable exposure of being seen or noticed as male in feminine attire . Hence the submissive craving to be humiliated ?

I'm not expert in the field of human sexualities or studies but over my 45 years if wearing and enjoying as well as reading posts and threads such this one . I think we all notice a few things and learn the common likes fetishes and kinks along the Forced Feminization lines and submissions .

1. Can someone truly be Forced Feminized ! Especially if they crave or have some experiences of already wearing / cross dressing on there own.

2. Those who wants to dress or seek to be so called made / forced to dress by others I think they feel that in there minds there being Forced Feminized at the hands of another and removes all pressures and guilts of wearing on there own ?

3. This type of play is commonly seen and posted in many of the pro or non pro Dominant / Mistress web sites. Seeking submissive's so it's easy to were a submissive's get the idea of Forced Feminization !!!!!

Please for give me for my 2 cents worth . I mean no disrespect to any poster or replying person on this thread just trying too add to it

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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/18/2015 1:22:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think it's forced feminization if the sub is already inclined. I'd say the same for 'forced bisexuality'.

But subs need their Dominants to take control of their desires and kinks, in order to be ok with wanting these things, and to be free of having to make the decision.

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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/18/2015 11:01:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JVoV

I don't think it's forced feminization if the sub is already inclined. I'd say the same for 'forced bisexuality'.

But subs need their Dominants to take control of their desires and kinks, in order to be ok with wanting these things, and to be free of having to make the decision.

You are exactly right, which is why "forced" usually gets quotation marks. There's nothing "forced" about any of this, it's all consensual. The same with "forced" bi. Dude is bicurious or bisexual and doesn't want to own it.

Willingness to engage in either of these "forced" activities is always a red flag to me, since that isn't the type of partner I seek.

DreamLady

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RE: for Mistresses into forced fem - 4/18/2015 11:11:50 PM   
JVoV


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Status: offline 		Can we make 'forced masculization' a kink?

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